<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Raps-CB4:</div><div class="quote_post">Hes not the second best there is mj clyde bill russel</div> What the hell? Bill Russell?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Ezzzz sorry, Clyde Drexler is still alive. Not to mention to the guy sitting next to Charles Barkley on TNT and the alien, Sam Casel. </div> Clyde Drexler was on the second championship team. Sam Cassell averaged below ten points that season since it was his second year in the league while Kenny Smith was just over ten points. Not exactly your marquee players. During the 94-95 season, Hakeem was surrounded with a bunch of role players and still managed to win the championship. Granted, its not exactly considered "alone" but he won it as the only star on the team.
The only dumbsters on the planet are those who think he is god because he can entertain and score a huge total of points. Fact of the matter is, if you take of your kobe coloured glasses, you would see that a lot of people do think he is a great player but not legend status yet. Yes he has many years left to prove himself, and maybe he will be top 10 material, but maybe he will blow out a knee and be top 100 only. At this point in his career, he is not as good as you want to believe and nowhere near the greatness of MJ, Magic, Bird, Big O even Isiah Thomas he is just top 50. Deal with it and come back to reality. <font color=""Red"">Edited for unnecessary profanity- AznxBaller</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fatballer_10:</div><div class="quote_post">I think he is overhyped. Everyone gets on his band wagon because he scored 81 points. Well done, so what. MJ, Bird, Magic, Russell, West and the list goes on, were all exceptional players, individually and as part of a team. They were also winners. While Kobe has the luxury of 3 rings, he also had the second most dominant big man in history right beside him. So while Kobe is a great player, do not go over board. When his career is done I am sure he will have his rightful place in the NBA top 50 but over and above that I'm not so sure about.</div> Kobe overhyped! I don't think so, i agree people have jumped in the bandwagon, but what about those that have stuck by him all this time. We get always accused of being in the bandwagon, but thats just stupid. Kobe is an exceptional player just like MJ, Bird, Magic, and all those great once you have in mind. But,just like them, he can be great with his team too, but those other greats had people around them with that drive to win, but kobe doesn't have that now. Sometimes it seems that the rest of the Lakers really do want to win, and some nights it is the opposite. But kobe wants to win ever single night, and he shows it. He wants to win at whatever cost!! I think thats what makes a great player, and the fact that he has incredible talent helps too. Yes kobe won 3 rigs with a great center, but could shaq have won those without Kobe, the answer we all should know, is NO! He couldn't have, he didn't do it in Orlando, and he isn't gonna do it in Miami either unless DW really because even better than he already is. You can't win rings on your own, even the great ones needed a great supporting cast...and sadly kobe doesnt have that at the moment, but that does not take away from his greatness...kobe in the top 50, yeah, top 30, yes, top 20, yes..but when it is all over he's gonne be in the top 3 even to all the haters!
Top 50. Maybe top 30 if he becomes a little more selfless and wins some more rings but top 3. You are out of your mind. No disrespect because you are obviously a fan of his, but there are at least 30 people better than him on the all time list and while he has time on his side, top 10 is even beyond him. He is great, he is a superstar but he is not and will not be an all time legend like MJ, Bird, Magic and many others. Sorry but you got to look at it rationally. He is gifted, talented and wants to win no matter what and you have to admire that, but there were plenty of those types of people before him and will be plenty after him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't get me wrong, MJ was great, but when he won his Championships it was the low-point in the NBA. </div> I'm not here to say it was the high point, but the Jazz, the Blazers, the Sonics, the Suns, the Rockets, the Spurs, the Knicks, the Cavs etc, all pretty good teams if you as me. When MJ won his first championship, though on the decline, the Pistons, Lakers and Celtics were still top teams. Also it's not like he had as good a team as Bird and Magic did, I mean Magic had Kareem and Worthy, Bird had Mchale and Parish.
Oh God...another "Kobe is a god, you fools worship him" thread. Kobe's the best player right now, hands down. I don't know if we can judge him all time level tho. He's still pretty young..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fatballer_10:</div><div class="quote_post">Top 50. Maybe top 30 if he becomes a little more selfless and wins some more rings but top 3. You are out of your mind. No disrespect because you are obviously a fan of his, but there are at least 30 people better than him on the all time list and while he has time on his side, top 10 is even beyond him. He is great, he is a superstar but he is not and will not be an all time legend like MJ, Bird, Magic and many others. Sorry but you got to look at it rationally. He is gifted, talented and wants to win no matter what and you have to admire that, but there were plenty of those types of people before him and will be plenty after him.</div> Haha, you made the biggest joke! The reason Magic and Bird really got the kind of "greatness" was because of their rilvary in NCAA tournament and brought it to the NBA Final. MJ is the greatest "NO DOUBT" because his unbelievable achievement for a guard with 6 titles, 5 NBA MVPs, Defensive Player of the Year, 10 Scoring Titles, and numberous All-Stars appearance, but let's not forget Kobe did the same thing except he haven't achieve any MVP so far. Reason why? MVP is define by your team success, and so far with the type of nuclear the Lakers are having, it's hard for Kobe to get an MVP. If Jordan is in Kobe's shoe right now, he did exactly the same thing Kobe did, jacking up shot to give the Lakers the best chance to win. And if you are watching the Lakers (obviously you haven't!), you will know how "useless" and "awful" his teammates look. C'com here, Kobe can average a 6-8 assists per game easily if it wasn't for his teammates failed to convert them. Basically what you're saying about "selfish" is wack. NO NBA superstars are unselfish. I don't think Lebrone is unselfish when he averages over 30pgs/game here. Duncan, Garnett, and O'Neal are an exception since they don't need to provide the scoring load like Guard did. I say it is too early to evualate Kobe. Kobe got 3 rings, he should ranks up there in the top 20 already!
[quote name='kobe4life']Haha, you made the biggest joke! And if you are watching the Lakers (obviously you haven't!), you will know how "useless" and "awful" his teammates look. NO NBA superstars are unselfish. I don't think Lebrone is unselfish when he averages over 30pgs/game here.QUOTE] You are the biggest joke!!! Firstly, I try not to watch the kobe's i mean, the Lakers because I see what a waste it is having anyone else on the floor least of all a great small forward like Lamar Odom who was utilised superbly in Miami because of a certain superstar who was unselfish enough to pass him the ball (Dwyane Wade take a bow). Secondly, The second and third leading scorers in the NBA and definite superstars, Allen Iverson and LeBron James are very unselfish averaging 7.4 and 6.5 assists respectively while scoring over 30 points per game also. This compared to Kobe's 4.3 and you cannot tell me that the lack of quality players makes 2 - 3 assists difference per game. LeBron does not have that much help at the moment with Hughes out and Iverson only has Webber and Iggy both of whom are inconsistent. Kobe has Smush Parker, a candidate for Most Improved Player and Lamar Odom who is terrific when given the chance. Thirdly, ranking up there in the top 20 already???? How long have you watched NBA basketball...2 years??? You can talk about 20 better players without even thinking about it too much. Kobe will be Kobe and a damn good player, but give up on thinking he is any better than your average superstar and top 50 player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe and KG are NOT CLOSE. Keep smoking. Kobe has broken all kinds of sick records.</div> Individual, one-game records don't constitute greatness, in my opinion. They require a combination of good skills ALONG with many other factors, including luck. Greatness is defined by consistent play over a significant period of time. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He was the youngest player to get to 10,000 points. I like KG but get real. KG is a great player. Kobe is an "unbelievable" player.</div> Kobe is a greater scorer than Garnett. I won't dispute that. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Throw the numbers out for one second. How many players have you seen besides Michael Jordan make UNBELIEVABLE plays under pressure on a consistent basis year in and year out like they're on autopilot? How many times has Kobe blown your mind? I'd say about 12 or 15 times easy. How many times has KG blown my mind? Maybe twice. DWade? Three or four times. Who is the most unstoppable force on the court night in and night out for the last 5 or 6 years in this league? Kobe by a landslide.</div> Ok, you're obviously a big fan of Kobe's and we just disagree on this which is fine. Kobe has more unbelievable games than Garnett, certainly. But he also has had a ton more mediocre games than Garnett. Garnett just does more things on offense and defense, in my view, and as a result from game to game he almost always has a positive impact for his team. It may not be with scoring, but he's such a force in other areas (defense, rebounding, getting teammates involved). Kobe has unbelievable spikes in his performances, but there have also been many nights when his team would basically be better off with him on the bench. More so in past years than this year, of course. Garnett, to me, is one of the few players for whom I honestly can't think of any significant weaknesses. Maybe he could be more assertive as a scorer for his team in crunch time, but he's the kind of player who'll take what defenses give him and I appreciate that. This year, I'd definitely rank Kobe ahead of Garnett. But over their respective careers, I give Garnett the edge.
Kobe is top 25 easy, even without his 81 point performance (2nd best alltime). Factor in scoring avg., defensive awareness and, Clutchnisity he*s in the 25 best. Oh and he aint even done yet.
I can?t stand Kobe?but I can?t deny his greatness. He has the potential to surpass the likes of Magic & Bird, for sure! Bird won 3 rings ? Magic won 5 rings Kobe has won 3 rings ? He is 27 and might end up winning 1 or 2 more rings, (a total of 5 rings). Both Bird & Magic were 12 NBA All-Stars. Magic was MVP of the all-star game twice and Bird only once. Kobe has been an all star 8 times (including 06). He will end up being a 13-15 time All-Star for sure! Kobe has won the NBA All-Star MVP once as well. (He may win this award 2 more times). Bird & Magic both made the All- NBA Team 9 times (each). Kobe has been All-NBA 3 times (not including this year). He will end up with a total tall of 7-9. Kobe ? 3 -time All-NBA Defensive First Team (He will end up with probably 7 of those)?Bird & Magic = ZERO! Sure, Kobe did not win the NBA Rookie of the Year Award but he did win a Slam Dunk Championship . He still has the chance to win Olympic Gold in the future (Bird & Magic won Olympic Gold in 92). Kobe may end up winning 5 scoring titles. So there you have it folks. Kobe may not become the best ever, but he?s got the talent to overshadow other greats. Kobe is a great scorer, defender, and he is clutch. A phenomal player!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dagoods:</div><div class="quote_post">Both Bird & Magic were 12 NBA All-Stars. Magic was MVP of the all-star game twice and Bird only once. Kobe has been an all star 8 times (including 06). He will end up being a 13-15 time All-Star for sure! Kobe has won the NBA All-Star MVP once as well. (He may win this award 2 more times). </div> All star appearances don't really count, i mean (no offense to yao i like him) but he will probably finish his career with possibly more all star appearances then magic or larry or even shaq, yet i wouldn't rank him in the same category as them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Benvedis:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe is top 25 easy, even without his 81 point performance (2nd best alltime). Factor in scoring avg., defensive awareness and, Clutchnisity he*s in the 25 best. Oh and he aint even done yet.</div> Thats pretty much exactly the way i think of it. Kobe makes clutch shots at a RIDICULOUS percentage. Now that ive moved to socal and get FSN ive had a chance to watch him play alot, and my god! Everytime the Lakers are in a tight game and a basket is needed Kobe hits some of the most difficult and perfectly defended shots ive seen. I think to myself, " hes not going to make ANOTHER huge shot is he? Hes got to miss sometime", but he doesnt. Kobes ferocity on both sides of the court and clutchnisity along with the idea that hell be doing this for years to come lead me to believe he'll reach all time legend status once his career is over with.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats pretty much exactly the way i think of it. Kobe makes clutch shots at a RIDICULOUS percentage. Now that ive moved to socal and get FSN ive had a chance to watch him play alot, and my god! Everytime the Lakers are in a tight game and a basket is needed Kobe hits some of the most difficult and perfectly defended shots ive seen. I think to myself, " hes not going to make ANOTHER huge shot is he? Hes got to miss sometime", but he doesnt. Kobes ferocity on both sides of the court and clutchnisity along with the idea that hell be doing this for years to come lead me to believe he'll reach all time legend status once his career is over with.</div> 82games.com shows stats of player in last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter and overtimes when neither team is ahead by more than 5 points. In these "clutch" situations, these are Kobe's numbers this season and last season: <font face=""Courier New""><font color=""Green""> This season (in 120 total minutes): 47.6 points/48min 21.6 free throw attempts/48min 4.0 assists/48min 38.6 fg% 41.5 effective fg% (including three pointers) 85.2 ft% Last season (in 146 total minutes): 43.9 points/48min 24.1 free throw attempts/48min 4.6 assists/48min 32.4 fg% 35.2 effective fg% 79.7 ft% 2003-2004 (in 133 total minutes): 47.5 points/48min 21.8 free throw attempts/48min 3.6 assists/48min 39.6 fg% 44.5 effective fg% 85.2 ft% </font></font> Obviously, you expect him to take over the offense in these situations, and he's especially good at getting to the line (part of that, of course, is intentional fouls in closing minute of tight games). Except for the free throws, he hasn't been particularly efficient in these situations. Compare these numbers to another noted clutch shooting guard, Dwyane Wade: <font face=""Courier New""><font color=""Green"">this season (in 88 total minutes): 45.5 points/48min 20.0 free throw attempts/48min 7.6 assists/48min 44.1 fg% 44.1 effective fg% 86.5 ft% last season (in 158 minutes): 43.2 points/48min 20.4 free throw attempts/48min 7.6 assists/48min 47.3 fg% 47.8 effective fg% 79.1 ft% </font></font> Wade has been more efficient while scoring 40+ per 48 minutes, plus he gets the assists. The difference is that Wade is able to use his quickness to manuever around defenders and get better shots closer to the basket. Kobe tend to rely heavily on difficult perimeter shots and clever pump fakes to draw fouls from defenders. Kobe's shot making might look more spectacular, but I think Wade has been just as effective in the clutch.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fatballer_10:</div><div class="quote_post"> You are the biggest joke!!! Firstly, I try not to watch the kobe's i mean, the Lakers because I see what a waste it is having anyone else on the floor least of all a great small forward like Lamar Odom who was utilised superbly in Miami because of a certain superstar who was unselfish enough to pass him the ball (Dwyane Wade take a bow). Secondly, The second and third leading scorers in the NBA and definite superstars, Allen Iverson and LeBron James are very unselfish averaging 7.4 and 6.5 assists respectively while scoring over 30 points per game also. This compared to Kobe's 4.3 and you cannot tell me that the lack of quality players makes 2 - 3 assists difference per game. LeBron does not have that much help at the moment with Hughes out and Iverson only has Webber and Iggy both of whom are inconsistent. Kobe has Smush Parker, a candidate for Most Improved Player and Lamar Odom who is terrific when given the chance. Thirdly, ranking up there in the top 20 already???? How long have you watched NBA basketball...2 years??? You can talk about 20 better players without even thinking about it too much. Kobe will be Kobe and a damn good player, but give up on thinking he is any better than your average superstar and top 50 player.</div> I agree with your ranking of Kobe, it's too early in his career to really evaluate him with the top 50 players of All-Time. He's certainly on pace to be one of the All-Time greats, but putting him in the top 20 right now is overzealous. The bold part of your argument I have to take exception to. I don't blame non-Laker fans for calling Kobe a ball-hog etc. because mainstream media portrays him in that light. However, if you follow the Lakers and listen to actual Laker fans, not Kobe first fans, I think you'll see a different, and more accurate picture of Kobe. I notice you have Allen Iverson in your Sig and Avatar, so you can appreciate how hard it is for one dominant player to win without the right players around him. When Iverson was most successful, he wasn't surrounded by great offensive players. He was surrounded by players who made up for his weaknesses, which are defensive minded role players. Players who control the boards to create more shots for Iverson, and defend the paint so Iverson can gamble on defense and create fast break opportunities for himself. These players also moved well without the ball so even if Iverson missed or passed out of a double team, they benefited from it. Now getting back to Kobe, the Lakers roster is still transitioning out of the Shaq era and into the Kobe era. You have a roster full of players who complimented Shaq's game, but don't work alongside Kobe. It's not because Kobe doesn't make them better, it's because they don't compliment his game at all. Lamar Odom was viewed as the perfect player to Kobe because of his triple-threat skills. However, Lamar Odom's skills do not work in the Triangle offense. It starts with Odom's career underachieving status and limited understanding of basketball fundamentals. As the initiator, Odom has to be able to read a defense and then run the right play to attack the weaknesses of that defense. Once he makes the first pass, he is supposed to move into a position to take advantage of his mismatch. He does this occassionally, and when he does move without the ball, the offense flows and easy baskets are scored. However, a majority of the time Odom passes the ball and then watches while he camps out behind the 3pt line. Then he settles for a low % 3pointer instead of getting himself and the rest of the Lakers into the flow of the offense. In Miami, Odom was used differently in the offensive sets. It had nothing to do with DWade, and everything to do with his role in the offense. In Miami they ran specific offensive plays which Odom is better at because he is responsible to make those plays with the ball in his hands. In the Triangle, it's a complete contrast, because both the ball and the players most move as one. He also didn't play SF in Miami, he played PF and took advantage of his post passing skills. Odom is very effective in the post on offense, and playing in the East he got away with it on defense. In the West, it's a different story, because the West is loaded with top tier PFs, so Odom gets dominated defensively. The lack of quality players does actually hurt Kobe's assists totals. His teammates usually shoot around 33% from the field. The looks his teammates are getting, that Kobe creates are WIDE OPEN shots. Kobe is very UNselfish with the basketball, but when his teammates are missing wide open looks and the Lakers are in trouble, that's when his will to win takes over and Kobe starts taking shots he normally passes up. If you look at the Lakers lineup, there is not a single consistent player on the team. Aside from Odom, the other 3 players would not start for any team in the league. All the above just covers the offensive side of the ball. I'm not even taking into account the impact Kobe makes on defense. He's getting the Lakers 36PPG on average, and also shutting down the opposing teams best player on the perimeter. AI isn't doing that, LeBron isn't doing it, and DWade definitely isn't doing it. Here's the underlying problem for the Lakers and is unfairly used to criticize Kobe Bryant. Unfortunately, on this Laker team Kobe Bryant is the best scorer, best shooter, best post-player, and best defender. I think everyone who hates Kobe is taking what he does on the court for granted. The same was the case for Michael Jordan when he dominated the NBA. For every Jordan fan, there were 2 Jordan haters, criticizing him for the exact same b.s. Kobe deals with. Even when Jordan won his titles, he was still criticized. Not until he left the game did haters start realizing and respecting just how good he was. The scary part about Kobe Bryant, is we have no idea how much better he can be. He's improved every single season and always adds a new dimension to his game. You cannot assume he has peaked this year as a player. He might actually peak when he's past 30 years old, because he's the hardest worker in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fatballer_10:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='kobe4life'] You are the biggest joke!!! Firstly, I try not to watch the kobe's i mean, the Lakers because I see what a waste it is having anyone else on the floor least of all a great small forward like Lamar Odom who was utilised superbly in Miami because of a certain superstar who was unselfish enough to pass him the ball (Dwyane Wade take a bow).</div>This first paragraph automatically makes me not even want to read this. First and foremost, you don't watch Laker games as you admit here. Therefore, how the hell would you know what you're talking about. Every time I watch the Lakers play, Kobe is the only one that does much of anything. His teammates are horrid. Odom should by all means average career highs playing along Kobe. Kobe gets him open jumpers all the time due to the double and triple teams he draws, Odom just doesn't knock them down. Odom also plays himself out of the offense. More often than not this year, Odom has camped at the three point line or has shot long jumpers, both of which are out of his comfort zone. He is best when he is shooting from 15 feet in and taking it to the hoop. He hasn't done that this year. It is not Kobe's fault Odom sucks, it's his own. And by the way, Wade wasn't a superstar during his rookie year and Odom was the top option all season. Maybe that's why he had one of his best seasons there. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Secondly, The second and third leading scorers in the NBA and definite superstars, Allen Iverson and LeBron James are very unselfish averaging 7.4 and 6.5 assists respectively while scoring over 30 points per game also. This compared to Kobe's 4.3 and you cannot tell me that the lack of quality players makes 2 - 3 assists difference per game. LeBron does not have that much help at the moment with Hughes out and Iverson only has Webber and Iggy both of whom are inconsistent. Kobe has Smush Parker, a candidate for Most Improved Player and Lamar Odom who is terrific when given the chance.</div>Here's a thought for you. First and foremost, LeBron has a phenomenal supporting cast. Drew Gooden gives 12/9, Z has been good for 16/7, 'Yell has been good for 10/7 off the bench, Eric Snow can run a game better than most points in the league without having to produce offensively, Damon Jones, despite inconsistency, gives them another good offensive option off the bench, etc. So, to say the Cavs supporting cast isn't that good is just stupid. The Lakers supporting cast isn't that good and isnt' half as good as the Cavs. You also say that because Lebron and AI average 6 and 8 assists respectively, that they're not selfish. Did you ever stop to look at FGAs? LeBron has 1157, good for 3rd in the league. Iverson has 1200, good for second in the league. And Kobe is first in the league, with 1316. Just over 100 more than AI. So, what makes Kobe so selfish when he barely shoots more than AI and LeBron do, but they're not selfish. Who cares that Kobe isn't averaging 6 assists, that's what Odom is there for. He's the one running the offense this year, NOT Kobe. Kobe is the scorer in the offense, Lamar is the facilitator, therefore, it would make sense for Odom, the point forward, to average more assists than Kobe, and that's exactly what he does. And also, Kobe could have a whole hell of a lot more if his teammates would hit their shots. As I stated earlier, everytime Kobe dishes to a teammate, they mess up and miss the shot. He can't control that people on his team can't hit an open jumper. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Thirdly, ranking up there in the top 20 already???? How long have you watched NBA basketball...2 years??? You can talk about 20 better players without even thinking about it too much. Kobe will be Kobe and a damn good player, but give up on thinking he is any better than your average superstar and top 50 player.</div>He is FAR better than you're average superstar. No average superstar can take the team that he has and win 26 games with them. No average superstar hits more big shots than Kobe. Hell, aside from Michael Jordan, it's hard to find a superstar that hit more big shots in his career, and Kobe is far from done. Next, Kobe is a top 50 player. He's on pace to become the all time leading scorer in NBA history (but will likely be passed by LeBron), he's got 3 rings, and he's hit plenty of big shots and scored plenty of points along the way. I can't name 50 players that I'd take over him, and that's not out of bias, that's because he is that good. There isn't a player in the league that has his skill set or that can lead his poor team the way he has. Look at the other players you've mentioned or players similar to him, and look at their supporting cast. TMac has Yao, LBJ has Gooden, Z, and Marshall, AI has Iggy, CWebb, Dalembert, and Korver. Kobe....Kobe has Smush, and underachieving Odom, a bust named Kwame, a foul machine named Mihm, and all sorts of other useless parts. If it wasn't for him, the Lakers go nowhere. Now here's a thought for you people. I will say this, Kobe is not a top 20 player of all time...yet. At this stage, I can probably list a load of players that are ahead of him. However, he's only 27. He's still got a lot of productivity ahead of him, and by the time he's done, top 20 will be a doorway he doesn't walk through, but one that he kicks down.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post"> He's on pace to become the all time leading scorer in NBA history (but will likely be passed by LeBron), he's got 3 rings, and he's hit plenty of big shots and scored plenty of points along the way. </div> Kobe will not become the all-time leading scorer, unless you believe he can go 8 more seasons averaging over 35 points per game. That's not going to happen. Kobe may be only 27, but he's been in the league for 10 years. He's an old 27 -- roughly where Jordan was physically when he was 30 or 31. There's no way he can sustain his current scoring rate for more than a few more years, at most.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe will not become the all-time leading scorer, unless you believe he can go 8 more seasons averaging over 35 points per game. That's not going to happen. Kobe may be only 27, but he's been in the league for 10 years. He's an old 27 -- roughly where Jordan was physically when he was 30 or 31. There's no way he can sustain his current scoring rate for more than a few more years, at most.</div> I wouldn't put it past Kobe to break the record. I think he can play up to the age of 40 years old. Before you call me crazy, you have to realize Kobe is one of the best conditioned players in the game. Look at Karl Malone, he played until he was 40. Jerry Rice another good example. Jordan played to the age of 39. Kareem played until the age of 41. So if you give Kobe another 13 seasons in the league, which isn't that farfetched, I could see him breaking the record.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> So if you give Kobe another 13 seasons in the league, which isn't that farfetched, I could see him breaking the record.</div> Ok, I suppose it's possible if he can play another 10 years, and stay relatively healthy. It would certainly be an amazing feat, given that he wasn't the main scorer on his team for a good chunk of his career.
