Apparently, Lamar Odom is Not Untouchable

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  1. lakerman34

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    The Lakers keep saying they are unwilling to part with Lamar Odom, however, they made a trade proposal to the New York Knicks (which was denied) that would have brought in Channing Frye and gotten rid of Lamar Odom. THE LAKERS NEED TO GET RID OF LAMAR ODOM BEFORE THE TRADE DEADLINE. Also, make sure that Kobe is OK with the trade, because if it were solely up to just Mitch Kupchak and Phil Jackson, we may be getting crap outta the deal, while the other team is getting an every night triple-double threat.
     
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    [​IMG] I totally agree. Did you see how Lamar killed the game for us last night, AGAIN! About 30 seconds left instead of giving the ball to Kobe and create contact and at least get two points on the free throw line, Odom gets out of control rushes the shot and even tries to avoid contact by just throwing the ball and misses the shot. [​IMG] Please get rid of ODOM and BUSS fire Kupcake. [​IMG]
     
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    I read this on Hoopshype.com, which said "The Lakers are looking to make a deal before the feb. 23rd deadline" which made me real happy seeing as every other report has Lakers management content with the current team.

    If we could somehow trade for Drew Gooden and Earl Watson/Brevin knight, I think we'd be set until summer.
     
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    Everything is talk. Mitch Kupcake doesn't know how to deal at all unless he's looking to trade a stellar player for a crappy one (see Butler for Brown trade). And every rumor that had Lakers in a trade deal, was all bluff and never happened. As far as I'm concerned, I don't care for trade rumors anymore. It's all fake anyways.
     
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    Get rid of Lamar, are you guys <font color=""Red""><u>Crazy!</u></font> Lamar can do so much for us, we just need him to get more aggresive, come on..have you seen him lately, this guy is a true warrior he's hurting but he's on the floor every night attacking the boards and everything! We can't get rid of lamar, and how can you say one player killed a game for us. If you are truly gonna win a game you do from the starting point..and besides lamar is great, but not a clutch player, if we ever get rid of Lamar you'll see how worst our team gets.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting LKRQUN33:</div><div class="quote_post">Get rid of Lamar, are you guys <font color=""Red""><u>Crazy!</u></font> Lamar can do so much for us, we just need him to get more aggresive, come on..have you seen him lately, this guy is a true warrior he's hurting but he's on the floor every night attacking the boards and everything! We can't get rid of lamar, and how can you say one player killed a game for us. If you are truly gonna win a game you do from the starting point..and besides lamar is great, but not a clutch player, if we ever get rid of Lamar you'll see how worst our team gets.</div>

    I'd have to agree with you on this one. I'd bet anyone that if we get rid of Lamar, he's gonna shine somewhere else. Odom must stay! Bynum, Madvadenko, Luke, Kwame must go!
     
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    this lamar we are seeing right now is what we will see from him for the rest of his career, he isn't a young player hes probably at his prime and we won't seeing him being agressive enough, if u wanna be agressive be it, but this guy isn't that kind of guy, i can't belive the laker didn't trade this idiot who can't think about how to win
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philip2136:</div><div class="quote_post">this lamar we are seeing right now is what we will see from him for the rest of his career, he isn't a young player hes probably at his prime and we won't seeing him being agressive enough, if u wanna be agressive be it, but this guy isn't that kind of guy, i can't belive the laker didn't trade this idiot who can't think about how to win</div>

    do you see kobe??!! Do you see how dominant he is! Lamar is younger than kobe!!!! He can get more aggressive, and we do need him, have you seen him the last few games!!!
     
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    yea he screwed up suring the memphis game when there was like 30 sec left.. he looks like some backstabber
     
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    Ditch Lamar, I want to see someone else in a Lakers uni. Lamar screwed up 2 games this season so far.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">we may be getting crap outta the deal, while the other team is getting an every night triple-double threat.</div> If hes an everynight triple double threat then why trade him? Or is he really not an everynight triple double threat? If he is, then teams would be all over a trade for him. Lamar Odom is simply an overrated overpaid verstile player.
     
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    i agree, but it wont happen with mitch dumbchick vacationing in europe. lol!
     
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    Are you guys joking? By trading Odom, we might as well have kept Shaq.. It's obvious without Odom initiating the offense the Lakers have struggled, even though he doesn't make a lot of points, he does make a lot of assists and rebounds.

    Odom and Kobe are fine, but they need better players surrounding them to become a threat.
     
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    I'm still not sold on Lamar Odom being the right fit for the Lakers. A lot of you are saying, look how bad the Lakers played without him. Keep in mind the Lakers were also without Chris Mihm and you're not taking into account the player or players Lamar would bring back in a trade.

    I think Lamar Odom is a very talented player, but the Triangle offense does not fit his skillset. Odom needs to be a system where the coach calls out plays and Odom runs them. In the Triangle offense, his role is to read the defense and then run the right set of plays to attack that defense.

    This is where Odom is wrong for the offense because after he makes the initial pass, he doesn't know how to move without the ball.

    These are just his offensive woes, and on defense he's also a liability on most nights. If the Lakers use him at SF on defense, it takes away his effectiveness on the glass. He tries to play defense with his hands on quicker defenders instead of using his feet. If the Lakers play him at PF, he's a better rebounder, but gets abused against stronger players.

    I don't think the Lakers need to trade Odom straight up for another superstar. They need to trade him for two players, who are defensive minded and can perfect a role on the ballclub.
     
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    Screwing up games!! The games we loose by 1 or 2 is only because we were horrible either the whole game, or we let it go in the fourth. I never agreed about one player ruining a whole for us. Thats just stupid! I mean, yeah..it helps to get a shot up at the last second, but i mean...their is always a 50% chance of it going in, whether you are the greatest player in the world or an average the chances are always 50! Kobe did not screw up the game against Memphis for us, because the whole team let go of the lead in the 4th quarter and thats what beat us. And besides...Lamar has been the reason for so many of our other players getting involved he distributes the ball well and he also can get aggresive sometimes and only good things come out of it...Trading Lamar would be stupid, just like trading shaq was stupid. Do you people really want to see another mistake affect our team...come on people!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting LKRQUN33:</div><div class="quote_post">Screwing up games!! The games we loose by 1 or 2 is only because we were horrible either the whole game, or we let it go in the fourth. I never agreed about one player ruining a whole for us. Thats just stupid! I mean, yeah..it helps to get a shot up at the last second, but i mean...their is always a 50% chance of it going in, whether you are the greatest player in the world or an average the chances are always 50! Kobe did not screw up the game against Memphis for us, because the whole team let go of the lead in the 4th quarter and thats what beat us. And besides...Lamar has been the reason for so many of our other players getting involved he distributes the ball well and he also can get aggresive sometimes and only good things come out of it...Trading Lamar would be stupid, just like trading shaq was stupid. Do you people really want to see another mistake affect our team...come on people!!</div>

    You cannot make a blanket statement about trading Lamar Odom being stupid. If the right deal comes along and it improves the Lakers, then it's not a stupid deal at all.

    Trading Shaq was not stupid either, but what the Lakers got in return for him surely was.

    I agree, one player doesn't ruin your chances of winning, however inconsistency at each position does. I would argue Lamar Odom is one of our most inconsistent players, and at his price tag the Lakers cannot afford that type of effort from him.

    If he actually gave the Lakers 15/10/5 EVERY single game, then I wouldn't want Odom traded. However, he doesn't produce those numbers every game, instead he produces great numbers every 4 or 5 games to boost his averages.

    Not knowing which, Odom is going to show up from game to game really hurts the Lakers chance at success. Now you add this mystery in the post-season and you're just asking for an early exit.
     

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