I think Brian Hill should be given a chance to improve this team. He has done well this season despite our team's inconsistency. We are a young team who can win a tough game one night and then lose to an easy team the next night. This isn't Brian Hill's fault and if we had a more experienced team, this wouldn't happen. Dwight Howard has been compared to Shaq by some and who better to hire then the man who molded a team around Shaq and got to the Finals with him? I think Hill is the right man for the job and after only half of a season, it isn't long enough for him to leave his mark on this team. Also, like shape said, Brian Hill has brought defensive intensity to this team and that is exactly what we need right now. DeShawn Stevenson, Dwight Howard, Tony Battie, and Steve Francis have all improved defensively. We should keep Hill for now and let him stay and try to improve this team. And just out of curiousity, Who else would you guys think of hiring?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">As I mentioned in another thread Darko isn't really lazy just really unmotivated, he never cares during garbage time because he is embarrassed just being out there against scrubs. Darko has a huge ego and still sees himself as some kind of great player. </div> Huh I didn't know you knew him personally
You don't have to know him to know that, (he is unmotivated) you just have to watch the piston games.............
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheHighness:</div><div class="quote_post">You don't have to know him to know that you just have to watch the piston games.............</div> That makes zero sense.
Orlando has gotten themselves wut could be developing as one of the most dominant frontcourt trandems in nba histroy they could someday be up with the likes of tim duncan and david robinson and pairs like that. I believe today he showes he can score and rebound and block he is young and still 20 years i believe howard is also there. So i believe after they both fine tune their games their stats would be Howard 25/15/4/3 Milicic 22/12/6/2 Then you get yourself a solid-good backcourt and you have yourself a championship team and then people will be talking about the retardness of the pistons not lettin the young gun play.
Darko doesn't seem like he could get 12 rebounds a game. He seems (not soft, but not as agressive around the glass) and with Dwight gobbling up the boards, 12 rebounds might be a reach. I agree with highness if he can get 15/8/3 assists and 2 blocks then I would be extremely happy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cdub100:</div><div class="quote_post">Huh I didn't know you knew him personally</div> You don't need to know someone personally to see he was un-motivated during garbage time. You can see It in his face. He hated getting cheered because he knew the fans fault sorry for him. Pro players have emotions and no matter how much you get paid the crap he took from everyone got to him. Darko is still very raw offensively and is not a good rebounder but one thing he does really well is block shots which is the kind of guy Dwight needs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">You don't need to know someone personally to see he was un-motivated during garbage time. </div> I agree with this but you, but you took it a step farther and went on to tell us he "wasn't lazy he was embarrassed just being out there against scrubs. Darko has a huge ego and still sees himself as some kind of great player." You're taking a lot of assumptions here. So unless you know him personally you really have no idea what you're talking about. Also news flash Darko is one of those scrubs.
Darko has said in the paper here (Michigan) that it embarrases him when people (in Detroit) chant his name. Even Larry Brown had a article asking people to stop, when he was there. Also if you would have ever read some of Darko's comments you would know that he does infact have a huge ego.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cdub100:</div><div class="quote_post"> Also news flash Darko is one of those scrubs.</div> So a 20 year old 7 footer that got drafted #2 in one of the best draft classes in history didn't get any time behind the best frontcourt in the NBA(2 allstars including annual DPOY) the last 3 years and were a game 7 win away from winning their 2nd championship in 3 years that means he's automatically a scrub for life?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but you took it a step farther and went on to tell us he "wasn't lazy he was embarrassed just being out there against scrubs.</div> Well It's true, Darko seems to work hard in practise and has from what I heard done everything both LB and Flip have asked of him. He has tried to work on his game every day. That isn't lazy to me. He just lacks motivation when he knows he is only in the game because the game is so out of reach that the other team can not come back. It hurts after a while. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Darko has a huge ego and still sees himself as some kind of great player." You're taking a lot of assumptions here. So unless you know him personally you really have no idea what you're talking about.</div> No assumptions at all, I was told by someone I know who has watched Darko since he was 15 that after a year or so got very cocky and his team-mates started to dislike him because of his attuide towards how good he was. Proof of his ego was bashing Lebron James on draft week when the topic of Lebron in high school came up and him mentioning he could of done what Bron did as he played against real men. He sees himself as a great player. His attuide has been a problem in recent times. So yes I do know what I'm talking about.
actually i think an ego is good it causes personality problems yes but i mean an ego is what one needs to get to the top because it gives u the attitude that i can take you and thats what many players need.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tinyballer:</div><div class="quote_post">actually i think an ego is good it causes personality problems yes but i mean an ego is what one needs to get to the top because it gives u the attitude that i can take you and thats what many players need.</div> Confidence and ego are two different things. One is beneficial, while one is harmful.
shapecity... -You blame Brian Hill for not getting a title, he got them to the finals and it's not like the orlando magic were that talented that they were favored for the title. One of the years u mentioned the bulls one the title the other two were rockets championship teams. - Hill had two 50 win seasons and a 60 win season so it's not like he was a horrible coach -I don't get how you can say just because PJ coached under a good coach he's automatically great, this isn't football -It also makes no sense to fire him one year into the job so the idea of hiring PJ is just stupid to talk to cause it would obviously not happen this year
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting babybulls:</div><div class="quote_post">shapecity... -You blame Brian Hill for not getting a title, he got them to the finals and it's not like the orlando magic were that talented that they were favored for the title. One of the years u mentioned the bulls one the title the other two were rockets championship teams. - Hill had two 50 win seasons and a 60 win season so it's not like he was a horrible coach -I don't get how you can say just because PJ coached under a good coach he's automatically great, this isn't football -It also makes no sense to fire him one year into the job so the idea of hiring PJ is just stupid to talk to cause it would obviously not happen this year</div> Hill had two 50 win and one 60 win season with a very talented roster. I don't think I'm offbase saying any coach could have led those Magic teams to a 50+ win season. Regular season succes is only one aspect of coaching. On the grand stage Brian Hill hasn't delivered. There's a long list of coaches who can take a team into the playoffs, but only a handful who actually can win it all. If you look at my post, most of the coaches who have won a championship and have had success in both the regular and post season all come from a tight nit group. PJ Carlisemo is part of that group of coaches because of the experience he's gained with San Antonio. I never said he's great or could win it all, but prior history suggests he has a better chance than Brian Hill at delievering a championship. My original argument was suggesting the Magic use the San Antonio Spurs blueprint. Which was the main point of bringing in PJ Carlisemo because he would have the most familiarity with it. Also I never said Brian Hill should be fired. In fact I said the opposite ... <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree, Brian Hill at least deserves a chance for now.</div> Maybe you should go back and read through my entire posts because you skipped over a lot of facts.
He is very young right now but we have a right to be dissapointed. He has 6th man talent and Antonio McDyess who lost like 4 years or somehting ebcause of an injury in playing over him c'mon. He has potential though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post"> I was told by someone </div> Well I heard from my brothers friends sisters mothers uncle who worked for the Pistons so there.
