Yao one of most overrated as voted by NBA players

Yao ming is by no means overrated. I think the players and many others are misinterpreting the allstar voting results

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Yao is overrated somewhat.

That's not a knock on his ability because he is talented and a quality NBA player, but i think so far the hype has outdone the performance.</div>
That's the problem there. Who hyped him up in the first place?

The media played Yao out as a possible Olajuwon in his first year, and when he didn't progress to a 25/14 center in his third season, they knocked on him hard. In a lot of top 20 player rankings in the summer of 2004, Yao was listed as a top 15 guy with 17.5 ppg and 9 rpg. Now, ask around and he's a top 30 guy, even though he's now 20/9.

The sad truth is that Yao will probably be "overrated" the rest of his career, no matter how good he becomes, how many championships he wins, how many All-Star teams he's named to. Hell, why not put an asterik beside his name on the All-Star rosters, and put in a disclaimer along the lines of "Voted in by China"?

The guys who say Yao is overrated as just overrating him themselves. He's 20/9 and he's "overrated"? Why not call Garnett overrated too? He should be getting 30/15.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post"> If Yao Ming was in a popular city like LA, and had a teammate like Kobe would Yao still be overrated? </div>

You do know that TMac plays for the rockets, right?
Yao doesnt deserve to be a starter, but because there is such a bad selection of centers in the west, it is inevidable. But what about Gasol?
What do you guys think about Gasol over Yao? I cant really say because ive never seen Gasol play, only game highlights, but i do know that he hasnt got as much help as Yao does, and plus he dunks better than Yao.

 

No matter how much Yao is overrated or hated on, he is still great for the NBA.

Yao Ming single handedly gave the NBA Billions of new fans. A little kid in China said this in the movie Year of the Yao:

Kid: I rather watch Chinese basketball than the NBA
Interviewer: Will you watch the NBA if Yao plays?
Kid: Yes

Yao is making Millions of Dollars for the NBA. He's helping the NBA become more Global, and that's something no one will be able to take away from him.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AKIRA:</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post"> If Yao Ming was in a popular city like LA, and had a teammate like Kobe would Yao still be overrated? </div>

You do know that TMac plays for the rockets, right?</div>
You obviously don't know what I'm trying to say. I know T-Mac plays for the Rockets. I'm trying to make a point. If Yao was playing on a team like the Lakers (a team that is very popular), and on a team with Kobe (a more successful player than T-Mac) would Yao still be overrated?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AKIRA:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao doesnt deserve to be a starter, but because there is such a bad selection of centers in the west, it is inevidable. But what about Gasol?
What do you guys think about Gasol over Yao? I cant really say because ive never seen Gasol play, only game highlights, but i do know that he hasnt got as much help as Yao does, and plus he dunks better than Yao.</div>
Gasol doesn't even play Center. Lorenzen Wright plays Center for the Grizzlies. Pau was voted in as a Center to this years All-Star Game, but since he doesn't play that position I think Camby deserves that spot. Yao and Pau put up similar numbers, but they play different positions, and we never get to see them go 1on1. And just because Gasol dunks better than Yao doesn't mean he should start at Center instead of Yao.

 

Yao is becoming the modern-era Patrick Ewing... All Ewing did was average 21 and 10 for his career, but people hated on him (and still do) because he never got his team a title. Sure their games are different but honestly... Ewing will probably make the HOF despite all the hate. In his 3rd season Ewing played 31 mpg and averaged 22.7 and 9.3 boards.. not unlike Yao's numbers this season (his 4th). It wasn't until his 4th season that Ewing even averaged double figure rebounds with 10.9 while scoring a breakout 28.6 per. But that was playing 38 mins/game which Yao will likely never do because of his size. And Yao has never been the type to call for the ball on every possession, so the fact he is averaging 20ppg this season is surprising considering Ewing used to take 20 shots a game, and Yao averages less than 15.

Regardless, if Yao is so overrated, i'm sure if you ask any GM in the NBA.. they would probably trade their best player for Yao in a heartbeat, except for a few exceptions - ie. Kobe, Lebron..

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">For whatever reason, the questions about Yao Ming's greatness quotient have not ceased. Tracy McGrady, however, offered about as good an answer as any to those who still doubt the Rockets center.

"He's good for me, and he's good for us," McGrady said. "The most important thing, I think, (is) with him, I can win a championship. Regardless of what everybody else says, he's a guy you can win a championship with. That's all that matters.

"All that hoopla about what they want him to be ? he needs to be himself, do what he does. He's getting better every day. He's not the dominant presence like Shaq (O'Neal) is. The kid can play. For 7-6, he can play. Any coach, GM, player would take Yao Ming on their team. It doesn't matter what everybody else says he should be."
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quoted from the chronicle.. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...kn/3670131.html

 

Okay, Yao Ming is more hated than anyone. He's overrated right? But, since his rookie year everything has gone sky-high. Plus, Yao Ming "schooled" Shaq at the beginning of the year but, at the end when he was getting tired Shaq took over. Yao will probably win a few championships and will be with the Rockets his entire career. With the All-Star votes, I don't care if he got 2 million less than the highest or highest total, to be voted in an All-Star game is by the way you play and not how many people like you. I know alot of people wanted to see Yao in the All-Star game with Shaq being there.

Which was also a big hyped thing "The Next Shaq: YAO MING" "Yao Vs Shaq Part: I"..get my point?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">That's the problem there. Who hyped him up in the first place?

The media played Yao out as a possible Olajuwon in his first year, and when he didn't progress to a 25/14 center in his third season, they knocked on him hard. In a lot of top 20 player rankings in the summer of 2004, Yao was listed as a top 15 guy with 17.5 ppg and 9 rpg. Now, ask around and he's a top 30 guy, even though he's now 20/9.

The sad truth is that Yao will probably be "overrated" the rest of his career, no matter how good he becomes, how many championships he wins, how many All-Star teams he's named to. Hell, why not put an asterik beside his name on the All-Star rosters, and put in a disclaimer along the lines of "Voted in by China"?

The guys who say Yao is overrated as just overrating him themselves. He's 20/9 and he's "overrated"? Why not call Garnett overrated too? He should be getting 30/15.</div>

I think you hit it right on the money with this post. Good read.

All the media around Yao Ming is making him seem overrated. Like he is someone huge, but if that is how you (people in general) want to rate your players...by fame and media coverage...then their is no reason why Yao shouldn't be in the ASG.

 

If Yao was voted all because of people from China, then why wasn't Wang zhizhi an all star few years back?

 

I could understand that since if Yao gets doubled he is pretty much useless; since yao gets most votes he is overrated in that sense. He can't carry houston on his own either like how shaq dominated during his prime years.

 

Another thing is: Yao got 10% of the votes, meaning 20-something players thought he was overrated out of 248. I don't know about you guys but that takes some of the seriousness away.

 

I think some of the reason's yao is so overrated are because he isn't as aggressive as a 7'6 player should be, and IMO Yao will never be able to lead a team by himself or just take over a game. I mean as big as Yao is and as much hype as he gets don't you think he should be averaging more than 8.6 rebound for his career? When Yao came into the league he was supposed to be the next Shaq type player but so far he hasn't came close to doing what shaq has done his first few years in the league. Even when Tmac was traded there the Rockets were supposed to win Championship's, everyone was talking about how great Yao and Tmac were going to be but now they are one of the basment teams in the nba and IMO Yao's Lack of dominance is a big reason for that. With that said I think Yao is a great player but I do think he is overrated based on his play and based on how much media he gets for it. Let me give you an example Cris Bosh gets almost no attention for his play but avererages 22.5pts 9.2rbs. 2.5ass. 52%fg Yao gets 100 times more hype and averages 19.6pts 9.1rbs 1.3ass. 50%fg and heres the big difference Yao is 7'6 300ibs Bosh is 6'10 230ibs. Yao is just soft and that all that is too it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting evolidiot:</div><div class="quote_post">http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=unde...ov=st&type=lgns

"In a poll of 248 players conducted by Sports Illustrated and published in this week's issue, Arenas, Billups, Brand and <u>Chris Bosh</u> - All-Stars all - were the top four vote-getters for the NBA's most underrated player."
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Truth be told. Bosh! Bosh! Bosh!

 

Arenas...underrated? No Way if anything he should be on the overated list.

 

SpongeYao Squareface (call him sponge because he is so soft...and seriously, his face is so square) IS indeed overrated

He is too soft, and his conditioning isn't exactly prime (he get tired easily)

For his size, he should get at least 12 rebounds and 3 blocks a game

that been said...does spongeyao squareface deserve to be starter this year?

Well, IF gasol is counted as a C in the ballot, then gasol deserves to start...however i think gasol is listed as a forward in the initial ballot

That only comes down to spongeyao, camby, and brad miller.
Brad is having a down year...he is out of the question for sure
Camby would have made it if he doesn't injure himself that often again
Therefore spongeyao, despite missing quite a bit of games this year, gets the Chinese patriotism love AND if not, he will at least be a reserve

In my opinion, he doesn't deserve to be the top vote getter, and PROBABLY not a starter...but is he an allstar for west? yeah i think so

If you need more clarifications, ask Patrick Star
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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
He is too soft, and his conditioning isn't exactly prime (he get tired easily)</div>
The soft comment is null, that has nothing to do with how good a player is. And conditioning? He plays a little bit more minutes than Camby.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
For his size, he should get at least 12 rebounds and 3 blocks a game</div>
Size makes you have slower timing with things like getting rebounds, anticipating blocking shots, and defensive rotations.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
In my opinion, he doesn't deserve to be the top vote getter, and PROBABLY not a starter...but is he an allstar for west? yeah i think so</div>
Name one center that should start over him. Camby's the only one, and like you said, he's injured just as much as Yao. Camby averages less points and percentages.

 

you are a hardcore houston fan?

i believe i said that he shouldn't be top vote getter and that he should start this year since gasol, who is better than spongeyao, is listed as a forward in th ballot...the closest guy to knock yao off the starter's list is camby, but he's injured too much

Therefore:

Should he start this year? Yeah because gasol is listed as a forward in ballot
Should he be the top votegetter? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Should he at least be a reserve IF he didn't get selected as a starter? Yeah

Houston fans...don't be so defensive

Spongeyao should never be top vote getter in any of the years he is in NBA

it's that simple

 

You said "probably not a starter". You can read the things I quoted that I thought you had misinformed opinions about. Its nothing about being defensive or whatever, but you expect me to sit here and have to read your post about Yao without defending him? It would be the same if I started talking smack about your favorite player. But really, why shouldn't Yao get the most votes. I think out of many of the all stars out there, he's had the most impact on the NBA.

 

he's had the most impact on the NBA in terms of marketing values
in terms of playing ability...no

you are just too hardcore and too defensive

i won't argue with you

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hohoyoyoyo:</div><div class="quote_post">he's had the most impact on the NBA in terms of marketing values
in terms of playing ability...no

you are just too hardcore and too defensive

i won't argue with you</div>
You are right. I hope Dampier could come over to houston though..he is the best center in the west..since he even said it himself.. You can't argue with that