<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I was playing around with some trade scenarios, and this is what I came up with, I don't know if I like it though: Lakers Trade (to): Lamar Odom (Orlando), Luke Walton (Orlando), and Sasha Vujacic (Denver) Magic Trade (to): Steve Francis (Denver) Nuggets Trade (to): Kenyon Martin (LA) and Earl Watson (LA)</div> I've voiced it b4, I think Steve Francis would definately be a short term fix for the Lakers but I'm not sure in the long term. I've been shouting that we should get Watson and Kenyon for weeks because that'd give us a solid point gaurd, and an almost acceptable front court As for the dude that said Kenyon can't rebound...that's why he got that $90 million contract. It wasn't just the dunks.
K-Mart's a defensive beast and would bolster the Lakers front court, but would you want to risk getting him with his creaky knees? Also, the Lakers would have 2 former #1 overall picks (Kwame and K-Mart) in the lineup. Not many teams have had them in NBA history. Getting Watson/K-Mart is definitely better than Francis if K-Mart's knee holds up.
I can't believe i am agreeing with a maverick. But amen to that! If I have to make up a sign that says Francis= Disaster and go circle around the front office of the lakers i will. LOL
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Empra!15:</div><div class="quote_post">I can't believe i am agreeing with a maverick. But amen to that! If I have to make up a sign that says Francis= Disaster and go circle around the front office of the lakers i will. LOL</div> I'm glad you did .. Mavericks make some pretty good decisions.
I say hold out and wait to see who will be on the block in june before the draft. I think Steve could help but they got take Mckie or Kwame, one of the long term contracts or throw in Garrity. If they were smart they would demand the rights to Fran Vazquez. That guy is a just as good of (my opionion) better than Channing Frye right now. If you think i'm lying check his stats and watch Baskeball International on NBA tv. Theguy is a hustler .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dallasdude:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm glad you did .. Mavericks make some pretty good decisions.</div> Like trading steve nash
Heh, I knew you'd say that. But the Mavs are better without Nash. So its still a good decision. BTW, we let him go - not trade him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dallasdude:</div><div class="quote_post">Heh, I knew you'd say that. But the Mavs are better without Nash. So its still a good decision. BTW, we let him go - not trade him.</div> Same thing. But who cares I got to give respect to this years mavs. Avery's doing a good job. Lets see if he can keep it up. See you in april.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW, we let him go - not trade him.</div> Even worse lol. Should've done a sign and trade for a lil guy I like to call the matrix.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Empra!15:</div><div class="quote_post">First and foremost. Why in gods green hell are you inserting walton instead of George in the lineup? </div> Because George can't play the facilitator role. If we trade Odom, we're not looking only to replace a forward, we need to replace our 'point' forward. We need someone to fill that role and George isn't that guy. If he gets inserted into the lineup, that means Kobe goes back to being the facilitator and I'd prefer we not do that considering what he brings to the table at the wing. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And second, u said something about K-Mart being same as Odom defensively? I am not sure what Denver basketball your watching but with K-Marts aggresiveness on the court instead of Mr. Fancy Layup Odumb I'd pick K-mart over Odom anyday.</div> I didn't say they were the same defensively. I said K-mart isn't much better than Odom defensively. Odom isn't a great defender, but he's improved enough in that aspect where I'd call him about average in the department. K-mart is slightly above average, but no where approaching 'great.' K-Mart's aggressiveness? apparently that doesn't translate well enough on the boards... btw, its worth mentioning that I hate Odom just as much as the next guy ... but for Kenyon Martin? we'd be making ourselves worse..... Francis trade could work only if we could fit in some other pieces on the front line. Otherwise I cant see us competing defensively
Earl Watson & Kenyon Martin ... no thanks! I don't mind Watson, but I want no part of KMart in a Laker uniform. He's overrated defensively and is nothing more than a leaper. He has propensity to nurse his injuries when he's not happy. Sound familiar? KMart has dropped off since he parted ways with Jason Kidd. In New Jersey, Kidd made him look a lot better than he actually is. Unless the Lakers are also getting Jason Kidd in this deal or Steve Nash, then I don't want KMart. As much as I cannot stand Lamar Odom, I'd rather role the dice with him the rest of the season than gamble on KMart. I prefer acquiring Steve Francis because he's the second option this team desperately needs. Francis won't be able to initiate the offense, but Kobe can go back to that role until the season is over. Then the Lakers can groom Francis during the off-season and in practice. When JVG took over the Rockets, Francis picked up his offensive schemes fairly quickly, and he didn't mind deferring to Yao. I don't think it will cost the Lakers giving up Lamar Odom to acquire Francis either. Orlando wants expiring contracts, a young talent and/or draft picks. We can put together a package and then keep the trio of Kobe-Francis-Odom intact.
Has there been any development on this. Seems all other teams have been making the trades and our team is all talk and still sitting on the sidelines.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> When JVG took over the Rockets, Francis picked up his offensive schemes fairly quickly, and he didn't mind deferring to Yao. I don't think it will cost the Lakers giving up Lamar Odom to acquire Francis either. Orlando wants expiring contracts, a young talent and/or draft picks. We can put together a package and then keep the trio of Kobe-Francis-Odom intact.</div> You do know francis hated the jvg system? francis didn't like the fact the he had to limit his dribbles. Francis is a player who needs the ball in his hands all the time. how would he work in a triangle scheme where passing is very important?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">You do know francis hated the jvg system? francis didn't like the fact the he had to limit his dribbles. Francis is a player who needs the ball in his hands all the time. how would he work in a triangle scheme where passing is very important?</div> JVG system has nothing to do with the Triangle offense. JVG does have the creative mind to take advantage of their strengths. PJax would find a way to highlight Francis strengths and Francis would benefit from all the attention Kobe draws.
Screw this. If Lakers dont get Watson and K-Mart, we might as well just scout a player who were going to draft early. Francis in a laker uniform, I wont watch any of Laker games.
I'm sick of seeing trade rumors pop up, so post them in here or don't post at all. I have a huge blockbuster that is supposedly being discussed, I've heard from 3 credible insiders taht I can't discuss. But on REALGM, some guy posted this. I don't know how credible or anything this one is, so take it as a grain of salt. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REALGM USER:</div><div class="quote_post">rumor: Garnett to the Lakers for Odom, Bynum and George to be declared on Tuesday. source: An NBA agent whos close to a friend of mine Take it for whats its worth, im really only posting it (and the reason why its not OT) because if it goes down, it rules the Lakers out of tryna make a play for Bosh when it comes time for him to re-sign we'll see what happens, but my boy is pretty adamant that its close to a done deal. I cant vouch for the rumor, but i can vouch that he is infact a close friend of an NBA Agent.</div>
I design traades that make all teams happy and gives them eit her youth,cap room,or a need. I have designed the perfect trade: L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown Outgoing Andrew Bynum 7-0 C from St. Joseph (HS) 2.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.7 minutes Stanislav Medvedenko 6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign) 1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes Devean George 6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN 7.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.1 minutes Lamar Odom 6-10 SF from Rhode Island 13.9 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 5.3 apg in 39.2 minutes Incoming Allen Iverson 6-0 PG from Georgetown 33.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 7.3 apg in 43.3 minutes Kyle Korver 6-7 SF from Creighton 11.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.8 minutes Tony Battie 6-11 C from Texas Tech 8.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 26.8 minutes Change in team outlook: +28.3 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and +3.1 apg. Philadelphia Trade Breakdown Outgoing Allen Iverson 6-0 PG from Georgetown 33.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 7.3 apg in 43.3 minutes Kyle Korver 6-7 SF from Creighton 11.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.8 minutes Incoming Devean George 6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN 7.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.1 minutes Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 18.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.9 apg in 39.1 minutes Nate Robinson 5-9 PG from Washington 8.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.8 apg in 19.7 minutes Trevor Ariza 6-8 SF from UCLA 4.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 19.8 minutes Change in team outlook: -6.2 ppg, +6.8 rpg, and +1.5 apg. New York Trade Breakdown Outgoing Anfernee Hardaway 6-7 SG from Memphis 2.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 18.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.9 apg in 39.1 minutes Nate Robinson 5-9 PG from Washington 8.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.8 apg in 19.7 minutes David Lee 6-9 PF from Florida 4.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.1 minutes Trevor Ariza 6-8 SF from UCLA 4.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 19.8 minutes Incoming Lamar Odom 6-10 SF from Rhode Island 13.9 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 5.3 apg in 39.2 minutes Steve Francis 6-3 PG from Maryland 16.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.7 apg in 37.9 minutes Change in team outlook: -7.8 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and -1.7 apg. Orlando Trade Breakdown Outgoing Steve Francis 6-3 PG from Maryland 16.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.7 apg in 37.9 minutes Tony Battie 6-11 C from Texas Tech 8.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 26.8 minutes Incoming Andrew Bynum 7-0 C from St. Joseph (HS) 2.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.7 minutes Stanislav Medvedenko 6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign) 1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes Anfernee Hardaway 6-7 SG from Memphis 2.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes David Lee 6-9 PF from Florida 4.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.1 minutes Change in team outlook: -14.3 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and -2.9 apg. Successful Scenario There were BYC players involved in this trade, so this trade is subject to the BYC provisions of the CBA. Due to L.A. Lakers, Philadelphia, New York and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers, Philadelphia, New York and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MR BRYANT:</div><div class="quote_post">I design traades that make all teams happy and gives them eit her youth,cap room,or a need. I have designed the perfect trade: L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown Outgoing Andrew Bynum 7-0 C from St. Joseph (HS) 2.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.7 minutes Stanislav Medvedenko 6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign) 1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes Devean George 6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN 7.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.1 minutes Lamar Odom 6-10 SF from Rhode Island 13.9 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 5.3 apg in 39.2 minutes Incoming Allen Iverson 6-0 PG from Georgetown 33.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 7.3 apg in 43.3 minutes Kyle Korver 6-7 SF from Creighton 11.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.8 minutes Tony Battie 6-11 C from Texas Tech 8.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 26.8 minutes Change in team outlook: +28.3 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and +3.1 apg. Philadelphia Trade Breakdown Outgoing Allen Iverson 6-0 PG from Georgetown 33.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 7.3 apg in 43.3 minutes Kyle Korver 6-7 SF from Creighton 11.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.8 minutes Incoming Devean George 6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN 7.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.1 minutes Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 18.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.9 apg in 39.1 minutes Nate Robinson 5-9 PG from Washington 8.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.8 apg in 19.7 minutes Trevor Ariza 6-8 SF from UCLA 4.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 19.8 minutes Change in team outlook: -6.2 ppg, +6.8 rpg, and +1.5 apg. New York Trade Breakdown Outgoing Anfernee Hardaway 6-7 SG from Memphis 2.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 18.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.9 apg in 39.1 minutes Nate Robinson 5-9 PG from Washington 8.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.8 apg in 19.7 minutes David Lee 6-9 PF from Florida 4.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.1 minutes Trevor Ariza 6-8 SF from UCLA 4.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 19.8 minutes Incoming Lamar Odom 6-10 SF from Rhode Island 13.9 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 5.3 apg in 39.2 minutes Steve Francis 6-3 PG from Maryland 16.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.7 apg in 37.9 minutes Change in team outlook: -7.8 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and -1.7 apg. Orlando Trade Breakdown Outgoing Steve Francis 6-3 PG from Maryland 16.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.7 apg in 37.9 minutes Tony Battie 6-11 C from Texas Tech 8.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 26.8 minutes Incoming Andrew Bynum 7-0 C from St. Joseph (HS) 2.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.7 minutes Stanislav Medvedenko 6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign) 1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes Anfernee Hardaway 6-7 SG from Memphis 2.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes David Lee 6-9 PF from Florida 4.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.1 minutes Change in team outlook: -14.3 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and -2.9 apg. Successful Scenario There were BYC players involved in this trade, so this trade is subject to the BYC provisions of the CBA. Due to L.A. Lakers, Philadelphia, New York and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers, Philadelphia, New York and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.</div> Dude, that's retarded, and the Magic wouldn't do it, and neither would the Sixers. Do you know what continuity means? Or chemistry? How about lopsided?
I like the idea of KMart and Watson ending up in LA for Odom, Walton, and Vujacic, we got somebody who can bring the house down and a good defensive PG in Watson. We could put Kobe as a SF, and move Smush up to the 2 and have Watson play PG then?
