<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Good thing Baron is out so that no one will ignore Monty's plays. Hes a basketball genius.</div> I don't know what game you're watching, but it's not the plays that are the problem. The players are not making wide open j's and getting easy layups. Who do you go to when nobody is doing anything right? Unbelievable. We run plays, get open, don't make shots. We don't run plays, we don't make shots. It doesn't matter either way the team just sucks right in this game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know what game you're watching, but it's not the plays that are the problem. The players are not making wide open j's and getting easy layups. Who do you go to when nobody is doing anything right? Unbelievable. We run plays, get open, don't make shots. We don't run plays, we don't make shots. It doesn't matter either way the team just sucks right in this game.</div> Agreed, no one is hitting anything but Baron would help alot with our offensive woes.
I wonder if this has to do with how hard Monty ran the guys yesterday in practice. No legs in the shot. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Warriors Coach Mike Montgomery was trying to instill renewed life into his team. So Monday evening, about 24 hours before the Warriors were to resume play against the Sacramento Kings after the NBA All-Star break, Montgomery put his players through the workout ringer at the California Highway Patrol Academy gymnasium. ``They were tired,'' Montgomery said. ``They looked like they had been off a couple of months. ``But they will be better tomorrow.''</div> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...rs/13922185.htm
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Agreed, no one is hitting anything but Baron would help alot with our offensive woes.</div> Oh yeah definitely!!! The only good thing Mullin has been able to do for this franchise was get Baron Davis. Mullin was the guy that said he had a playoff team with Fisher/Claxton backcourt and he failed to do any kind of moves this offseason to address our needs other than to re-sign Dunleavy for more than he was worth. Argg I'm frustrated with all these airballs and poor defense this game. I'd love to blame Murphy for why the Warriors D has changed and Monty for not playing the rookies more, but damn there's just a lot of things wrong with this franchise I always talk about. Too many to list and problems escalate things when they're all combined.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">I wonder if this has to do with how hard Monty ran the guys yesterday in practice. No legs in the shot. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...rs/13922185.htm</div> They had all that break and they kind of wasted it. doh! I guess it's the difference between getting your guys to practice new things and develop new tactics or staying the same and just hanging on. Argg... I hate this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">They had all that break and they kind of wasted it. doh! I guess it's the difference between getting your guys to practice new things and develop new tactics or staying the same and just hanging on. Argg... I hate this season.</div> I'd have MP or Dun drive more and not shoot 3s. Maybe get Ike back in and iso him, but for some reason the W's never do it. What good is a low post shooter if he never gets the ball or PT!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jason voorhees:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd have MP or Dun drive more and not shoot 3s. Maybe get Ike back in and iso him, but for some reason the W's never do it. What good is a low post shooter if he never gets the ball or PT!!!</div> Totally agreed. Maybe I'm looking through rose colored glasses here but its probably tough for him to get into a groove when hes getting inconsistent touches and inconsistent minutes.
Well we're missing layups too and plus when the Kings crowd the paint, one of the open guys has got to make something. Let's just say the way we are playing right now is one of the reasons why the USA olympic team didn't win gold against all these guys that should have never had a chance to beat us. Had the USA team had better shooting they would have won. We just can't shoot as a team. Mullin assembled a roster of overpaid guys who often hit sub 40% from the field on a regular basis. I think the only high% guys we have that take a lot of shots are Jason Richardson... and... Jason Richardson. The rest of the other guys can't shoot or don't have any other dimensions to their offensive game to get those high % shots. But yeah, we need Ike in there, Biedrins in there, there's just too many big men that don't play like a big man should on this roster. It's why we can't rebound, box out, set good screens for the guys that can shoot if they use them, and other stuff. We need to be a classic team with a real physical frontline and not these Jamisons, Murphies, or whoever. I'm sorry I'm just frustrated. If It seem like I'm lashing out or unfairly making statements, just know I don't mean it. But seriously, Murphy on the interior is like havingno defense at all. Improved defense my butt.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">I wonder if this has to do with how hard Monty ran the guys yesterday in practice. No legs in the shot. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...rs/13922185.htm</div> Hope so,but my theory is that with a long weekend open,they had a kegger,maybe with strippers even and hardly anyone got any sleep....except Biedrens who drank milk I hope I'm wrong and they are luring SAC into a clever trap
yea ike should get way more shots but if he misses two in a row out he goes, if it was in fishers position he would have to miss 10 in a row to be taken out. but i guess we cant blame it all on monty because our team is just playing bad at the moment. hopefully they will get it going in the 2nd half. we need all the games we can get in our division. GO WARRIORS
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Hope so,but my theory is that with a long weekend open,they had a kegger,maybe with strippers even and hardly anyone got any sleep....except Biedrens who drank milk I hope I'm wrong and they are luring SAC into a clever trap</div> Could have been some partying, huh? or maybe the Warriors split up and went back home since they haven't seen their families. or maybe the Warriors are luring the Sac team into a trap, but also they're testing out their mad 4th quarter comeback skills. I think they've got a new weapon and its called "lure the team into a false sense of security and start jackin' threes". It's all about the 2nd half! C'mon Warriors play like you don't have fat contracts and you need to earn those numbers!
I like Andris. Yes, and I was wondering what Mike Montgomery and the Warriors were doing over the all-star break. Basically the Kings look crisp, and the Warriors look sloppy. The first possession the Warriors' legs looked out of it, 5 shots, all misses. The Warriors are lazy on the rotation and totally out of position giving Garcia and Martin too much room and time to shoot too many easy shots. The Warriors offensive decision making is also a bit lazy part of the time out there too. Too many shots and no ball movement and nobody getting open. Mostly, this was just a pretty bad shooting half. Jason is 5-15, Murphy is 1-6, Diogu is 0-3, Ellis 0-2. Mostly, I like how the Kings pass, and don't like how the Warriors aren't passing. It's not really a question of whether the Warriors can pass for this game, but rather a question of why they are not willing to pass the ball more?
Clif, I totally agree. This is what I mean when I'm observing that the warriors are not playing good team basketball and hence they are not a team. But in order to play team basketball you need the right pieces in the starting 5 unit that would make sense on paper and on the court. I think this all starts from the top with Mullin. When Mullin invested all of Cohan's money into the players long term, he expects them to play so the coach is playing them. So we play them, but they aren't getting results as a team, how do you make moves when they're practically unmoveable and in low demand. So we take the guys we have and he got a coach that can teach really good team basketball and its still not sinking in... we consider this a development stage for the team. What the heck do we do? I just think one guy can't be a scapegoat and another guy gets off scott free. Interior defense, perimeter defense, passing, inside scoring, rebounding could have been fixed in the offseason. Maybe or could have. Maybe we can fix this with salary flexibility in making trades, but we don't have much except for future draft picks or rookies as bargaining pieces. So it's a faith based game. Do we think this Warriors team will improve in the future or will it wind up the same mediocre teams from the past? I mean Mullin felt the roster was good enough after last half season and so did many of us. But it's like he had to have more insight than us fans to make this team a surefire winner. I don't know if any GM can do that, but we expected more out of him if there were opportunities that could push this team a little further. I just lost my patience after watching the Warriors play this bad and I guess I have to be patient with this developing "team" that is going to be together for a while. I hope we just be consistent... I mean doesn't it seem like every 2nd half season when the Warriors are out of playoff contention they start kicking ass and raising hopes again? Then the GM goes, "Oh I don't need to do anything but stay on course." Man I hate that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post"> They NEVER expect that "everybody fling 3's" trick,its like the Pearl Harbor of sports</div> That only works if we hit them. We're 1 for 7. Maybe wait until it gets down to 3 or 4 minutes before the end of quarter. Then start firing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jason voorhees:</div><div class="quote_post">That only works if we hit them. We're 1 for 7. Maybe wait until it gets down to 3 or 4 minutes before the end of quarter. Then start firing.</div> That's too predictable for the Warriors. They do that anyways. I think the Warriors should start to pass more, make layups and play defense, that'd totally catch the Kings off guard. They'd be like, "They can do that???" It's obvious the Warriors aren't running plays. It's a very static, non passing, non moving offense.
