1st round opponent

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  1. notmuchgame

    notmuchgame JBB JustBBall Member

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    Assuming the Lakers make the playoffs, which seed do u desire the most?

    6th seed is wat we should be shooting for IMO. ... realistically, that's probably our only chance to get out of the 1st round .....

    With the current standings, a 5th seed would lead to San Antonio, 7th seed would lead to phoenix, and an 8th seed would lead to Dallas.

    I could see an outside possiblity of beating Dallas considering we've done it twice already this season, but it's still a bit of a longshot over a 7 game series.

    Phoenix and San Antonio would probably make quick work of us, i'd say most likely a sweep.

    That leaves Denver, who is a 3rd seed by technicality. I definitely think we can take them. Its our best shot

    What do u think? what's the ideal scenario
     
  2. Lakers4Life

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    Lakers Can Beat Any Team Not Named Spurs! This Should Be A Good Playoff Run. Would Anyone Want To Face Kobe And Phil In A Seven Game Series?
     
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    ^Please don't write like that. Only the first letter of the first word in a sentence and names should have capital letters.


    On-topic: Yeah, Denver is the only team I can realistically see us beat, and going anywhere past the second round is pretty much an impossibility.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Empra!15:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Can Beat Any Team Not Named Spurs! This Should Be A Good Playoff Run. Would Anyone Want To Face Kobe And Phil In A Seven Game Series?</div>

    No they can't. The Lakers simply aren't talented enough to even compete with teams like Dallas and Phoenix. I don't think anyone would care about facing Phil and Kobe in a 7 game series. Shaq is not there so they are no threat.
     
  5. Mamba

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">No they can't. The Lakers simply aren't talented enough to even compete with teams like Dallas and Phoenix. I don't think anyone would care about facing Phil and Kobe in a 7 game series. Shaq is not there so they are no threat.</div>

    Is that a joke? If Lamar can stay consistent, which he looks like he will, we can beat any team not named the Spurs, Suns, or Pistons.

    We've beat Dallas twice this year, am I saying we could beat them in a 7 game series? It's not likely, but we could push it to 7 games.

    Ideally, I want the 6th seed to face Denver. I think we'd take them in 5 games.
     
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    I don't think some of you guys are giving kobe and Phil enough credit. One has nine titles, and the other is the best plate in the game.

    They may not fear this team like they did four years ago but dallas has always been kobes play ground and everyone knows it.

    I personally think the lakers could make it to the second round against Dallas, Denver and give the suns or spurs a good series. No one wants to win more than kobe and that counts for something
     
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    We have to bump into the 6th seed.
     
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    If you are talking about a one game series, Lakers have a chance but 7 games? Can Kobe alone carry his team with 40+ points every game? I don't think so.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K8B:</div><div class="quote_post">we can beat any team not named the Spurs, Suns, or Pistons.

    We've beat Dallas twice this year, am I saying we could beat them in a 7 game series? It's not likely, but we could push it to 7 games.

    Ideally, I want the 6th seed to face Denver. I think we'd take them in 5 games.</div>

    If that's true then why are the lakers only a few game over 500? if they are better than 27 other teams in the league according to you? don't make foolish statements. [​IMG]
     
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    With Phil and Kobe, this Lakers team can make a big run in the playoffs. I do think they can beat anyone in the West other than the Spurs and can take Suns w/o Amare and Dallas to the stretch. And don't forget Denver now has the Kobe stopper now (Ruben Patterson). But I think getting the 6th seed puts the Lakers in the most favorable spot.
     
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    Yeah If they are so good, why is the "assuming making playoffs" term used?
    Seriously, Lakers can give their opponents a real tough time because of presense of Kobe but I don't see them winning the seres. Kobe gets tired too and in 7 game series, there'll be a game or two that Kobe doesn't score as many as he does now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K8B:</div><div class="quote_post">Is that a joke? If Lamar can stay consistent, which he looks like he will, we can beat any team not named the Spurs, Suns, or Pistons.

    We've beat Dallas twice this year, am I saying we could beat them in a 7 game series? It's not likely, but we could push it to 7 games.

    Ideally, I want the 6th seed to face Denver. I think we'd take them in 5 games.</div>

    If Lakers were so good they would not be at all around 500. The chances of Lamar Odom staying consistant isn't that high. It simply isn't in his character to put up huge scoring numbers which he needs to do for the Lakers to win in the playoffs

    Lakers have beaten Dallas twice, thats nice but regular season match-ups don't mean a whole alot. They may get a game but not much more. Both Spurs and Suns would sweep them.

    I do agree though that the Nuggets is their best bet in the playoffs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">If Lakers were so good they would not be at all around 500. The chances of Lamar Odom staying consistant isn't that high. It simply isn't in his character to put up huge scoring numbers which he needs to do for the Lakers to win in the playoffs

    Lakers have beaten Dallas twice, thats nice but regular season match-ups don't mean a whole alot. They may get a game but not much more. Both Spurs and Suns would sweep them.

    I do agree though that the Nuggets is their best bet in the playoffs.</div>

    I'll disagree with you a bit there ... I think the Lakers may be able to compete with Dallas, albeit they'd be huge underdogs coming in. REgular season may not mean a whole lot to you, but you have to concede it does mean some. It is the same two teams .....Also, consider that Dallas has historically been a great regular season team and a not so great playoff team, granted we have yet to see how this laker team responds in the playoffs.

    For watever reason - and I can't explain to you why - the Lakers have matched up very well against the Mavs over the past 2 years (i.e. post-Shaq) despite the huge differeintial in win/loss totals. Over the last two seasons, they have played 7 times, with the Lakers having a 4-3 game advatange (and one of those games Dallas won by only 2 points) ... so there is no question the Lakers play the Mavs tough

    Conventional wisdom says that Dallas is the superior team...but you can't just throw out their matchups completely out the window either..


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dallasdude:</div><div class="quote_post">With Phil and Kobe, this Lakers team can make a big run in the playoffs. I do think they can beat anyone in the West other than the Spurs and can take Suns w/o Amare and Dallas to the stretch. <font color=""Red"">And don't forget Denver now has the Kobe stopper now (Ruben Patterson).</font> But I think getting the 6th seed puts the Lakers in the most favorable spot.</div>

    That wont make a big difference IMO ... Kobe has torched Patterson like crazy over their last 10 meetings or so
     
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    The playoffs are all about matchups, and the Lakers are built for the slow down, halfcourt grind of post season play.

    Lakers match-up well against the Mavs and Nuggets. I'm confident we can beat either team in a 7 game series. Mavs are playing great, but the Lakers have always had this mental edge against them, and if the Lakers steal the 1st game in Dallas, the thought of "here we go, not again" is going to be running through the Dallas locker room.

    The Lakers matchup terribly against the Suns and Spurs. We have no answer for Steve Nash or Tony Parker. The foot speed of the Suns is too, much for the Lakers right now because our backcourt depth is weak and our interior defense is still lacking.

    Spurs would likely sweep the Lakers in a 7 game series. They can make the defensive stops, the Lakers have failed to make down the stretch of games.
     
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    I fail to see how the Lakers could take Dallas to game 7. Hell, the Lakers might not even make the playoffs. You can talk all you want about regular season games, but it is totally different in the playoffs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">I fail to see how the Lakers could take Dallas to game 7. Hell, the Lakers might not even make the playoffs. You can talk all you want about regular season games, but it is totally different in the playoffs.</div>

    I know i agree, that's like utah fans saying the Jazz are better than the Pistons beacuse thye beat them twice. the regualr season for the most part is just an extended pre-season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe gets tired too and in 7 game series</div>

    So he can withstand an 82 game season but can't go for 7 games? That's real great logic...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Esco416:</div><div class="quote_post">If that's true then why are the lakers only a few game over 500? if they are better than 27 other teams in the league according to you? don't make foolish statements. [​IMG]</div>

    We're only a few games over .500 because Kobe has no CONSISTENT help. Have you seen the past two games? Lamar stepping up and being aggressive early, and then letting Kobe take over in the 3rd and 4th? We've been one helluva team. Am I saying we will get to the second round? No. But Against any other team outside of the three I mentionied, we can push a series to 7 games IF Lamar can keep up the play.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ilive4ball:</div><div class="quote_post">So he can withstand an 82 game season but can't go for 7 games? That's real great logic...</div>
    Good point. That makes 82+ extra 7 games. Kobe's a human too right? Ever heard of a term "Stamina"?
    In Playoffs, teams will concentrate even more on Kobe. Chances are if you somehow shut down Kobe, you will win...since besides Kobe, noone else on Lakers squad has shown consistency.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">I fail to see how the Lakers could take Dallas to game 7. Hell, the Lakers might not even make the playoffs. You can talk all you want about regular season games, but it is totally different in the playoffs.</div>

    Why is it hard to believe? I'm not saying it's a lock the Lakers would beat Dallas in a 7 game series, but they are more than capable of it.

    The Lakers have the players to match up with everything Dallas likes to do. The Mavs do not have a dominant player in the post, they rely a lot on transition buckets and perimeter shooting.

    Lamar Odom has the footspeed to defend Nowitzki on the perimeter and if necessary the Lakers can also put Devean George on him.

    This Laker team is built for the physical play of post season. The officials allow a lot more pushing and banging on the inside. Also do not under estimate Phil Jackson's ability to make adjustments.

    Of course Kobe Bryant gets tired in a 7 game series, but so does everyone else. He's one of the best conditioned players in the game and recovers quickly.
     

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