If you could redo the draft of 2002 what would you do?

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  1. tinyballer

    tinyballer JBB JustBBall Member

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    Hey man if we redone the draft i would still pick yao ming. but take up cleveland up on the offer of givin us their pick and we give them ours and a prospect i forgot who it was. and then take amare what would you guyz do?
     
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    Did you watch the game last night at all?

    Yao is playing, Amare isn't. Yao is a true center, Amare isn't.

    End of story.
     
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    Of course you still take Yao Ming. Owning a team is a business venture. Yao Ming has made more money for the Rockets ownership than Amare Stoudemire will ever make.
     
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    Yeah...I will pick Yao. Amare Stoudemire is a more efficient player, but Yao is just too special. There has never been a 7'6" player can run and shoot like him. Never forget, NBA is not just about winning, it's about entertainment too. Yao has brought a lot of money and attention to the Rockets organization. [​IMG]
     
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    Also keep in mind the Rockets do not have Steve Nash. A huge part of Amare's success is playing with Nash. When Nash got injured last season, Amare's production and impact took a nose dive.
     
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    1. Yao Ming
    15. Tayshaun Prince
    38. Ronald Murray

    That would be a good draft! The Rockets had a chance to pick both Prince, and Murray. Instead they picked Boki Nachbar and Tito Maddox.
     
  7. Trip

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    Hindsight is 20/20, if I could redo the 2001 draft I'd have kept our three picks and drafted Jefferson, Zach Randolph and Tony Parker. However, trading for Griffin looked like a real great thing to do at the time.

    In the 2002 draft, Yao was the unanimous first overall pick, I'm sure any team with the first pick would have taken him. Nachbar was also a pretty coveted project, although Maddox was more of a puzzling thing to do, with Francis and Mobley already entrenched at the guards.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post">1. Yao Ming
    15. Tayshaun Prince
    38. Ronald Murray

    That would be a good draft! The Rockets had a chance to pick both Prince, and Murray. Instead they picked Boki Nachbar and Tito Maddox.</div>
    but if we knew that they were gonna turn out to be this good, we would've picked them.. but we didnt know that prince was gonna turn out to be so good..

    We didnt know!..

    We could've picked jordan
    We could've picked Rashard Lewis
    We could've had Richard Jefferson
    We could've had Ginobili
     
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    Looking back at the 2002 Draft, it was a very weak year. I can't believe how much crap was drafted in betweewn Yao and Amare. Yao would still be my choice for the #1 pick. In addition to a being a great player, he seems like a really nice guy, and he is also very marketable. Amare may arguably be a better player, but much of his success must be attributed to Nash. Stoudemire would not get so many his easy buckets if Nash was not there to get him the ball. Also, does anyone think that Amare may be injury-prone. The year before last, Amare missed about 30 games to injuries, and everyone knows how many games he has missed this year. It seems like he gets injured every other year.

    Regarding the Bokie pick, I would definitely make a change. It would be between Tayshaun and Nenad Krstic. If anyone saw the Nets game last night, Krstic went 11 for 11 from the field. I would start Krstic at PF. Carlos Boozer would also get consideration. He has not played a game in a year, but when healthy, he is a pretty good player.

    Finally, with our second round pick, I would take Lonny Baxter, than trade him to charlotte for Keith Bogans in the following year when he is drafted.
     
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    I think I'm the only one here that would pick Amare I guess then. By drafting Amare, I think he would have fit the current team (back then) a whole lot more. With Francis, Mobley, and Stoudemire on the team, it would allow us to effectively run the ball a whole lot more. One of the smaller reasons Amare plays better with Nash is because some of the pressure is taken off him. That would be remedied with Francis and Mobley. The playmaking part no doubt hurts Amare, but if you take a look at his game, a lot of its just sheer power and athleticism. He gets a lot of points off fast breaks so that wouldn't be too much of a probably either. Plus, reportedly, he's also developing a very sweet jumper, so pretty much he'll be better than Yao within a few years even without Nash. Seriously, if you add one or two role players- one small forward that can hit the three ball well enough (Raja Bell) and a center or powerforward that rebound well (Cato) and you're pretty much set. In addition, Stoudemire is younger and is developing at a very fast rate also.
     
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    I would definetly still pick yao but wit the 14th pick i heard cleveland would have let us move up but they wanted our prized prospect griffin who we traded a hell of a lot for. Even though it looks good now it looked like griffin could be like KG back then. Griffin would've been perfect beside yao. So yah.
     
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    I'd still take Yao...not just because I believe him to be a more efficient and talented player than Amare, but also because of business purposes...
     
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    Yao absolutely. Not only is he more effiecient that Amare, but he is also a lot smarter of a player. The age difference between Amare and Yao is neglegable. Yao is also a surprisingly durable player (more durable than any other big man in the league, not to mention more effiecient except for the big boy down in Miami) whereas Amare seems injury prone.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Also keep in mind the Rockets do not have Steve Nash. A huge part of Amare's success is playing with Nash. When Nash got injured last season, Amare's production and impact took a nose dive.</div>


    Thank you! No one realizes that Amare got so much attention last year because his stats jumped like crazy and the reason for that is, he recieved a gift from dallas that would give him the ball everytime when needed. Amare can't create for himself (unless you call the power moves in the paint creating)


    Yao also brought Tmac to the Rockets. Players want to play around Yao just because he is going to be a dominant center.
     
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    what do you mean he is going to be a dominant center? he is already a dominant center and lets jus c if he can up it even more and give us 25-30 and 12-15rebounds every night if he can do that hes a hall of famer
     
  16. The Dream

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    Amarie is great (and better than Yao), but theres certain things a 7'6 dude can only do......I mean PF's are a lot easier to come by than centers.
     
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    if you see amare's injuries over the years and you still pick him as the number one draft pick... you're just a dumbass.... but i guess what really determine who is more worthy of the number one draft pick is the championship... we'll see who get it first....
     
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    If the Rockets had drafted Amare in '02 he would have been a younger, more athletic Kelvin Cato. Honestly I don't think Francis would have done for him, what Nash and D'Antoni's system did for him. Take into consideration though, that he still won ROY playing with Marbury, who isn't a pass-1st PG either... But his breakout year came when Nash came to PHO.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting evolidiot:</div><div class="quote_post">Looking back at the 2002 Draft, it was a very weak year. </div>

    Carlos Boozer
    Caron Butler
    Rasual Butler
    Juan Dixon
    Mike Dunleavy
    Drew Gooden
    Nenad Krstic
    Yao Ming
    Ronald Murray
    Tayshaun Prince
    Kareem Rush
    Darius Songaila
    Amare Stoudemire
    Jiri Welsch
    Chris Wilcox


    I'd have to disagree
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck:</div><div class="quote_post">Carlos Boozer
    Caron Butler
    Rasual Butler
    Juan Dixon
    Mike Dunleavy
    Drew Gooden
    Nenad Krstic
    Yao Ming
    Ronald Murray
    Tayshaun Prince
    Kareem Rush
    Darius Songaila
    Amare Stoudemire
    Jiri Welsch
    Chris Wilcox


    I'd have to disagree</div>
    Compared to other years, it was weak.

    Yao and Amare are the only two franchise guys in that group, and the rest are all role players. Guys like Welsch, Songaila and Rush are role players at best.
     

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