NFC North?

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  1. FLORIDA PACKER

    FLORIDA PACKER nfl-*****s member

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    Moose hasn't really shown up this year yet though, Im not sure if its because there is a rookie throwing to him or if maybe he isn't a fit for the Bears offense.
     
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    Florida Packer, I'm trying to decide too which one of these is the problem. I think it is because there is no number 2 that has really established himself. Although realistically it is because of Orton probably.
     
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    i think its a little bit of both
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wannab Favre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Florida Packer, I'm trying to decide too which one of these is the problem. I think it is because there is no number 2 that has really established himself. Although realistically it is because of Orton probably.</div>

    Same situation as last year with the Panthers though. Steve Smith was out for the season after week 1 and a rookie in Keary Colbert was there #2.

    Realistically I thought last season was a fluke and there was no way he would ever come to close to what he did last year. The lack of a true passer hurts as does not having another #1 but he's what 33 or 34.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wannab Favre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Florida Packer, I'm trying to decide too which one of these is the problem. I think it is because there is no number 2 that has really established himself. Although realistically it is because of Orton probably.</div>

    Same situation as last year with the Panthers though. Steve Smith was out for the season after week 1 and a rookie in Keary Colbert was there #2.

    Realistically I thought last season was a fluke and there was no way he would ever come to close to what he did last year. The lack of a true passer hurts as does not having another #1 but he's what 33 or 34.</div>

    Last year was not his first with 90+ catches it was hit 3rd, in fact he has 600 career rec. As carolina's QB play rose and fell so did his numbers, it is strictly a QB issue holding him down.
     
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    Moose is a great reciever he just doesnt have a qb to throw it to him. A WR cant catch a ball if you dont throw to him
     
  7. porky88

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wannab Favre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Florida Packer, I'm trying to decide too which one of these is the problem. I think it is because there is no number 2 that has really established himself. Although realistically it is because of Orton probably.</div>

    Same situation as last year with the Panthers though. Steve Smith was out for the season after week 1 and a rookie in Keary Colbert was there #2.

    Realistically I thought last season was a fluke and there was no way he would ever come to close to what he did last year. The lack of a true passer hurts as does not having another #1 but he's what 33 or 34.</div>

    Last year was not his first with 90+ catches it was hit 3rd, in fact he has 600 career rec. As carolina's QB play rose and fell so did his numbers, it is strictly a QB issue holding him down.</div>

    If you think so.......
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    Same situation as last year with the Panthers though. Steve Smith was out for the season after week 1 and a rookie in Keary Colbert was there #2.

    Realistically I thought last season was a fluke and there was no way he would ever come to close to what he did last year. The lack of a true passer hurts as does not having another #1 but he's what 33 or 34.</div>

    Last year was not his first with 90+ catches it was hit 3rd, in fact he has 600 career rec. As carolina's QB play rose and fell so did his numbers, it is strictly a QB issue holding him down.</div>

    If you think so.......</div>

    All assume you think i am correct in that you didnt dispute any specific point. bout time
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    Last year was not his first with 90+ catches it was hit 3rd, in fact he has 600 career rec. As carolina's QB play rose and fell so did his numbers, it is strictly a QB issue holding him down.</div>

    If you think so.......</div>

    All assume you think i am correct in that you didnt dispute any specific point. bout time</div>

    Like I said in my post above that is part of the reason. Age plays in a factor as well. The system does as well. Even With Grossman as the QB I wasn't expecting much out of Muhammed anyways this season. Bears are more of a power running team. I doubt Muhammed ever comes close to his numbers of last year.
     

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