The Summer of Garnett

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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">5. Los Angeles Lakers: Garnett is their rebuilding plan with Amare Stoudemire and Yao Ming having re-signed. Garnett and Kobe Bryant would be enough to be back in serious contention. Perhaps Lamar Odom, promising kid center Andrew Bynum, whomever else they may want and a No. 1 draft pick? It's not like the Lakers got that much for O'Neal. If Garnett chooses a place to go and is insistent, the Timberwolves have to get the best they can to avoid a scene. And Garnett, who some label a high-level Don Knotts-type since he is best as a supporting man in the end, badly needs a finisher to play with to have the kind of ultimate success he seeks.</div>

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    Even though the Lakers have the peices for Garnett

    Lamar, Bynum, #1 Pick...the Wolves will probably not be looking to trade him in the West....
     
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    We can't give up Bynum thats suicude.
     
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    I'm all for giving them Lamar Odom, but Bynum is a no no. He is only going to get better once he get's stronger with the weights and develops an inside game. I say we give them Kwame, Odom and throw in a 2nd round pick. That addms up to about 18 million which is Garnetts salary. Imagine Kobe and Garnette on the same team. GAME OVER!!!! were the pistons @?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">We can't give up Bynum thats suicude.</div>

    Give to get.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I say we give them Kwame, Odom and throw in a 2nd round pick.</div>

    Other teams are going to be offering players like Paul Peirce, Jermaine O'Neal, Ginormous expiring contracts....

    I don't think we could get Garnet for two players that combine to average 16 pts 17 rebs and 6 assists. That's really only about 5 more reb's than Garnett get's on his own, and 5 less points.

    Lamar and Bynum are really are only option I think, and while that could potentially mean sacrificing the future (5-7 years down the road) it means you could watch a duo that could potentially go on a dynasty run...

    Seriously, put Garnett at Center cause the west doesn't have any and you have this

    Smush
    Kobe
    George
    Turiaf
    Garnett

    I'd be happy with that lol, but then again I'm real high on turiaf
     
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    No Bynum, I hate to see all the knowledge this kid is absorbing from a legend as well as all the physical conditioning he's going through, only to send him ready to play for a team in the West. Like giving someone a brand new sports car whose engine has been broken in, strange analogy? maybe haha.
     
  7. Mamba

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    How is giving up Bynum suicide when you get back the most versatile player in basketball? I'd love to see your reasoning for that one, because it makes absolutely perfect sense to give up Bynum for KG.
     
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    Well said, K8B.

    Besides, I thought most Lakers fans hated the drafting of Bynum?
     
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    Sorry, but I don't think the Lakers have much to give. Even the Warriors have more promising pieces to offer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DannyBoy:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm all for giving them Lamar Odom, but Bynum is a no no. He is only going to get better once he get's stronger with the weights and develops an inside game. I say we give them Kwame, Odom and throw in a 2nd round pick. That addms up to about 18 million which is Garnetts salary. Imagine Kobe and Garnette on the same team. GAME OVER!!!! were the pistons @?</div>

    I hope you were on something when you made that comment.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GarnettKG21:</div><div class="quote_post">I hope you were on something when you made that comment.</div>

    Yeah seriously, theres no way any GM would pull that trade. For Garnett (as a Warriors fan) I'd be willing to part with J-Rich, Pietrus/Fisher, Murphy, maybe one of the rookies, and a 1st round pick at least. Odom, Kwame, and 2 round pick for Garnett? Wow.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">For Garnett, I'd be willing to part with J-Rich, Pietrus/Fisher, Murphy, maybe one of the rookies, and a 1st round pick at least.</div>
    Are you saying those two are interchangeable?, because last I checked Fisher was undoubtedly moveable; Pietrus not as much.
     
  13. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah seriously, theres no way any GM would pull that trade. For Garnett (as a Warriors fan) I'd be willing to part with J-Rich, Pietrus/Fisher, Murphy, maybe one of the rookies, and a 1st round pick at least. Odom, Kwame, and 2 round pick for Garnett? Wow.</div>

    I agree it's going to take a lot more than Odom, Kwame, and a 2nd Rounder, but your Warrior package isn't much better than the Laker one. Especially when you look at the what the needs are for the TWolves. Their backcourt is already cluttered, if they shop KG around they will want expiring contracts, draft picks, and cheap young talent or a superstar player back, cheap young talent, and draft pick.

    If the Warriors were willing to give Ike Diogu or Andris Biedrins they could put together a better package than the Lakers.

    However, I still think the Bulls have the best shot at landing KG. Plus it gets KG in the East.
     
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    Well J-Rich, Murph, and Pietrus are young talent. And J-Rich is close to being a borderline all-star. And I'd part with Biedrins as well.

    But look at the package the guy mentioned. Only bright spot is Odom, and even then he isn't too spectacular. And Kwame? Nobody wants Kwame, big contract and no upside. And he offered a 2nd round pick, not a first round.

    I'd take JRich over Odom and Murphy over Kwame. JRich gives 22 pts and 6 reb, Murphy gives like 15 and 10. Pietrus could do well and I said I'd give up a rookie and a 1st round pick. You can't say it's worse than the one the guy offered.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bravest:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you saying those two are interchangeable?, because last I checked Fisher was undoubtedly moveable; Pietrus not as much.</div>

    I was just saying who I'd be willing to part with. I'm not sure about who would be more moveable.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Well J-Rich, Murph, and Pietrus are young talent. And J-Rich is close to being a borderline all-star. And I'd part with Biedrins as well.

    But look at the package the guy mentioned. Only bright spot is Odom, and even then he isn't too spectacular. And Kwame? Nobody wants Kwame, big contract and no upside. And he offered a 2nd round pick, not a first round.

    I'd take JRich over Odom and Murphy over Kwame. JRich gives 22 pts and 6 reb, Murphy gives like 15 and 10. Pietrus could do well and I said I'd give up a rookie and a 1st round pick. You can't say it's worse than the one the guy offered.</div>

    JRich and Murphy are expensive talent, and neither are franchise caliber players. In order for the TWolves to completely rebuild, they need a borderline All Star big man in return and/or expiring contracts.

    I like Pietrus, but the TWolves won't have the money to re-sign him.

    Kwame Brown is pretty awful, but his contract expires in 2007.

    Would you take JRich over Odom, even though you have Jaric, McCants, Hassell, and Ricky Davis on your team?

    Lamar Odom would be a better player in Minnesota, because he would be the #1 option for their team. They also don't run a complicated offense in Minnesota and Odom could fit right into the role KG is playing for a lot cheaper, and 3 years younger.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">JRich and Murphy are expensive talent, and neither are franchise caliber players. In order for the TWolves to completely rebuild, they need a borderline All Star big man in return and/or expiring contracts.

    I like Pietrus, but the TWolves won't have the money to re-sign him.

    Kwame Brown is pretty awful, but his contract expires in 2007.

    Would you take JRich over Odom, even though you have Jaric, McCants, Hassell, and Ricky Davis on your team?

    Lamar Odom would be a better player in Minnesota, because he would be the #1 option for their team. They also don't run a complicated offense in Minnesota and Odom could fit right into the role KG is playing for a lot cheaper, and 3 years younger.</div>

    They could use some of their guards for a trade and build around J-Rich and Ricky Davis. Ricky can play the SF spot while JRich plays SG. They'd have Marcus Banks, Jason Richardson, Ricky Davis, Troy Murphy, and Marc Blount plus a young big man like Biedrins. While Odom would take over Garnett's spot, he's anything but a #1 option for a team like Garnett is. If they want a foward to replace Garnett they'd want Marion or Pierce. Not Odom. Anyway, bottom line is a trade like that won't happen. It's unbalanced to begin with and other teams have wayyy more to offer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K8B:</div><div class="quote_post">How is giving up Bynum suicide when you get back the most versatile player in basketball? I'd love to see your reasoning for that one, because it makes absolutely perfect sense to give up Bynum for KG.</div>

    Because, how long is this duo is going to last. Maybe 5-6 years, I say we keep Bynum because he's the future. I want to ship off Odom, Kwame, George for him. And we need someone that can shoot. I would want more than KG.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dtpxcore:</div><div class="quote_post">Because, how long is this duo is going to last. Maybe 5-6 years, I say we keep Bynum because he's the future. I want to ship off Odom, Kwame, George for him. And we need someone that can shoot. I would want more than KG.</div>

    Devean George will be a free agent after this season. I'm sure every Laker fan would want to trade Odom, Kwame, and filler for KG without giving up Bynum or Kobe. However, it's not realistic and not enough to land KG and outbid other teams who are after him.

    I'd take 5-6 years of the sure thing with Kobe & KG, instead of banking on Andrew Bynum.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dtpxcore:</div><div class="quote_post">Because, how long is this duo is going to last. Maybe 5-6 years, I say we keep Bynum because he's the future. I want to ship off Odom, Kwame, George for him. And we need someone that can shoot. I would want more than KG.</div>

    Bynum isn't even a good player right now. Some Laker fans need to realize it. He comes in the game and doesn't play defense. On offense, he just looks to shoot. It's going to take atleast 4-5 years for Bynum to even have any sort of effect in this league. You think Kobe wants to be losing for that long? I...don't...think...so.
     

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