<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> I'd take 5-6 years of the sure thing with Kobe & KG, instead of banking on Andrew Bynum.</div> I think anyone would. Take a guranteed playoff team or keep a rookie that "may" (keyword) turn out good. Who knows, he may become a great center or end up like Kwame.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree it's going to take a lot more than Odom, Kwame, and a 2nd Rounder, but your Warrior package isn't much better than the Laker one.</div> Now THATS something i cant agree with at all. The proposed Warriors trade seems to be FAR superior to the Odom+Kwame+2nd rounder trade. The best player the Warriors give up is better than the best player the Lakers give up and all the other pieces are superior to the extra pieces the Lakers would give up.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Now THATS something i cant agree with at all. The proposed Warriors trade seems to be FAR superior to the Odom+Kwame+2nd rounder trade. The best player the Warriors give up is better than the best player the Lakers give up and all the other pieces are superior to the extra pieces the Lakers would give up.</div> Not when you take into account the situation Minnesota is in. Marko Jaric $38M Troy Hudson $27.5M Trenton Hassell $21.75M Combined those 3 alone make $108.75Million for the duration of their contract. So you would want to add another $70Million to your backcourt? Plus it prevents the TWolves from ever developing Rashad McCants. Then you want to add an overpaid Troy Murphy who's signed through 2010/11 season? It's easy to say, go ahead and trade those guards. The problem is no one wants these players and aren't giving you anything for them. They tried shopping all those players before the deadline no one was willing to deal for them. With JRich and Murphy plus the current players on the team, the TWolves won't be able to make any moves for the next 5 seasons. In the Laker deal you get Lamar Odom only signed for another 3 seasons and $8Million in cap space. If you're trying to rebuild financial flexibility is a must.
We should be oh so lucky if the TWolves would agree to trade KG to us for Lamar and Bynum and a first rounder. I think if we include Chris Mihm (sadly, since he has been one of our most consistent) then it might just do the trick. After all, the TWolves would have a gaping hole in the middle if KG leaves and I doubt that they would take Kwame. But having said that, having the following roster next year wouldn't be so bad: C - Brown, PF - KG, SF - Cook, SG - Kobe, PG - Smush, with Turiaf, Sasha, McKie, and some fresh FA's or rookies on the bench.
hmmm... IMO i like team chemistry better than star players... IF Odom can be consistent, and kwame and bynum become at least defensive forces than i'd rather keep odom and the other players and picks than to get garnett for a package of odom, bynum/kwame, and draft picks... i just hope that the lakers try to get a reliable swing man... to add more offence
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting batman9970:</div><div class="quote_post">We should be oh so lucky if the TWolves would agree to trade KG to us for Lamar and Bynum and a first rounder. I think if we include Chris Mihm (sadly, since he has been one of our most consistent) then it might just do the trick. After all, the TWolves would have a gaping hole in the middle if KG leaves and I doubt that they would take Kwame. But having said that, having the following roster next year wouldn't be so bad: C - Brown, PF - KG, SF - Cook, SG - Kobe, PG - Smush, with Turiaf, Sasha, McKie, and some fresh FA's or rookies on the bench.</div> you forgot george haha
If the Bulls trade for KG, they'll have to give up a lot of their young talent. They won't be able to win with him. KG wants to go to a team that can win, and L.A. has Kobe Bryant. The Wolves know they won't get Bryant. KG and Kobe are great friends and train together, I'd think L.A. would be his first choice.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting K8B:</div><div class="quote_post">If the Bulls trade for KG, they'll have to give up a lot of their young talent. They won't be able to win with him. KG wants to go to a team that can win, and L.A. has Kobe Bryant. The Wolves know they won't get Bryant. KG and Kobe are great friends and train together, I'd think L.A. would be his first choice.</div> What!!!! KG wouldn't be able to win with the Bulls?? Lets say Chicago sends something like Gordon + Songaila + Sweetney + filler + NY's first rounder, if they want to save someone, maybe package their current pick as well. Chicago would have PG: Duhon/Pargo SG: Hinrich SF: Deng/Nocioni PF: KG C: Chandler/ O Harrington KG and Chandler make a pretty good defensive line. Hinrich and Duhon can run the offense or score Deng and Nocioni are pretty good SFs as well. All they would need would be a back-up SG. It looks like a pretty good team there. Probably would be 2nd best or 3rd best in the East.
With regards to the Lakers trading for Garnett, I think that giving up Bynum in a trade for Garnett would be worth it. Kobe in his prime with the current Laker team is a waste. Kobe and KG both in their primes, is just not fair to the other Western conference teams. I'm sure they would be able to attract a good 3rd piece during FA, and with P Jax they would be a good team. LA would become a place where FAs would want to go.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">What!!!! KG wouldn't be able to win with the Bulls?? Lets say Chicago sends something like Gordon + Songaila + Sweetney + filler + NY's first rounder, if they want to save someone, maybe package their current pick as well. Chicago would have PG: Duhon/Pargo SG: Hinrich SF: Deng/Nocioni PF: KG C: Chandler/ O Harrington KG and Chandler make a pretty good defensive line. Hinrich and Duhon can run the offense or score Deng and Nocioni are pretty good SFs as well. All they would need would be a back-up SG. It looks like a pretty good team there. Probably would be 2nd best or 3rd best in the East.</div> Kirk Hinrich can't play the 2. He would be lit up every night by bigger players. Minnesota would want at least Gordon, Deng or Nocioni, Songaila, and probably that pick...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting K8B:</div><div class="quote_post">Kirk Hinrich can't play the 2. He would be lit up every night by bigger players. Minnesota would want at least Gordon, Deng or Nocioni, Songaila, and probably that pick...</div> Kirk heinrich's natural position is actually the 2, he's playing it for chicago now with gordon.
KB8, who cares if he and Kobe are friends? He can't choose where he wants to go. Even if he did ask to be traded to LA, the Lakers still have nothing to offer Minnesota. Seriously, can any Laker fan propose a trade that Minnesota would even consider?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting K8B:</div><div class="quote_post">Kirk Hinrich can't play the 2. He would be lit up every night by bigger players. Minnesota would want at least Gordon, Deng or Nocioni, Songaila, and probably that pick...</div> To my knowledge Hinrich commonly plays both the 1 and 2. http://www.82games.com/0506/0506CHI2.HTM Although I believe his natural position is pg, he starts the game as SG because Duhon starts as point, then they use Gordon as a sparkplug off the bench and a 4th Q scorer.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">With regards to the Lakers trading for Garnett, I think that giving up Bynum in a trade for Garnett would be worth it. Kobe in his prime with the current Laker team is a waste. Kobe and KG both in their primes, is just not fair to the other Western conference teams. I'm sure they would be able to attract a good 3rd piece during FA, and with P Jax they would be a good team. LA would become a place where FAs would want to go.</div> Exactly like the Payton, Malone thing, thats well said.
My bad, I didn't know Hinrich played the two. As for KG getting a say where he goes? A player like that gets a lot of say in where they end up. He wants to go to a contender, adding KG to Kobe would make the Lakers a contender. Shaq got a say in where he went? So did Artest. A player with any respect in the league, especially like KG's, gets a say. McHale and KG have a great relationship and McHale wants to see him win, he'll ask KG where he wants to go.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">KB8, who cares if he and Kobe are friends? He can't choose where he wants to go. Even if he did ask to be traded to LA, the Lakers still have nothing to offer Minnesota. Seriously, can any Laker fan propose a trade that Minnesota would even consider?</div> Actually KG can dictate where he wants to go because of his ETO in 2008. A lot of superstar players use their player option as a bargaining chip. Shaq did it in the Miami deal, because he had the power in not resigning with a team after his current deal ended. I still Chicago or Boston has the best chance at landing him.
