Playoffs: Good or Bad for Bulls?

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  1. Midnight Green

    Midnight Green NFLC nflcentral.net Member

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    Well I know some people may be thinking how in the world can making the playoffs be bad for a team? But here is something that I have been pondering for a while, and just thought I would share it. Considering our current situation if we where to make the playoffs we would run straight into a the brick wall known as the Detroit Pistons, or the Miami Heat who are arguably just as good.

    Now getting to my point if we where to miss the playoffs, considering we continue at the same win to lose ratio we are at right now, would likely end up with the number one overall pick (via NYK) and tenth overall pick (our own) in the 2006 NBA draft picks that could go a long way in deciding how far we go next season. Personally I would not mind missing the playoffs this season, and using those picks to draft Aldridge and either Brewer or Foye with the tenth pick.

    If you compile those and the money we have to spend in the free agent market, into one bucket, we can have ourselves a year like the Heat did when they went from a good young team to a legit championship contender, considering we do things right like earlier the thread made by KicksDaddy.

    So here is the point of this thread would you mind missing the playoffs? Yes or No? And Why?

    You can look at this in two ways. The way I see it our chances of winning against either Miami or Detroit in the first round is slim to none, hell I’m not even sure we could avoid a sweep. So what's the point of making the playoffs, and being swept aside when we can miss the playoffs and have better draft picks and a chance to make a stronger push next season?

    I am a die hard fan so of course I will not be rooting for us to lose, but I’m just asking this question from a logically stand point. How upset would you be if we missed the playoffs?
     
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    Personally I don't mind either. This season we have been pretty mediocre.
    We'll get swept most likely by either detroit or miami.
    However we have lost a lot of close games this season due to inexperience i think. Going in to playoffs would help give our young guys more experience in the playoffs and what not.
    But then again maybe not making the playoffs this year will motivate us more for next season.
     
  3. I-Miss-MJ

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    It never hurts morale to make the playoffs, especially from where we are sitting now.
    And I would prefer playoffs so I can watch us play (and lose). But playing 4 or so games against Detroit/Miami will also give the team more experience against the championship teams.
     
  4. KICKSDADDY613

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    Honestly, I think missing the playoffs this season after the HUGE step forward from last year, could be disasterous. By moral and team unity standpoint, I think it could be damaging. On that note, I wouldnt mind, maybe from a fan perspective, getting higher draft choices, to REALLY build with. But, I'm afraid of what it could do character wise to the players. I think, if in the back of their minds, they realize, hey, because we lost Eddy Curry, it left us undermaned, then ok, we know it's just a temporary setback. then we'll be ok. If not, it could be a blip of a playoff run like the Clips did in '97, and be almsot 10 years before we get in again. I think with the draft this year, our cap money, and the switch of draft picks next season, we our in a better position than the Clips ever were, but I'm sure you all get my drift.
     
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    i agree with what is saying, making the playoffs would add a lot of experience and moral to this team, the few spots we would draft later aren't that big of a deal cause we still have ny's pick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KICKSDADDY613:</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly, I think missing the playoffs this season after the HUGE step forward from last year, could be disasterous. By moral and team unity standpoint, I think it could be damaging. On that note, I wouldnt mind, maybe from a fan perspective, getting higher draft choices, to REALLY build with. But, I'm afraid of what it could do character wise to the players. I think, if in the back of their minds, they realize, hey, because we lost Eddy Curry, it left us undermaned, then ok, we know it's just a temporary setback. then we'll be ok. If not, it could be a blip of a playoff run like the Clips did in '97, and be almsot 10 years before we get in again. I think with the draft this year, our cap money, and the switch of draft picks next season, we our in a better position than the Clips ever were, but I'm sure you all get my drift.</div>
    I don?t see the team revolting if we miss the playoffs with a ninth seed. Although, it would add to their playoff experience should they make it in. I think it would hurt their moral a lot more to be swept away in the playoffs and lose for their second straight year in the first round. Of course their will be disappointment on the players part if they miss the playoffs, because that is what they work for all season. However, would it cause the team to fall apart? I doubt that I mean it?s not like Chandler, Hinrich, and other key players haven?t failed to reach the playoffs before.
     
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    ^^^^

    All good points. I dont see them REVOLTING, however, don't you think, although maybe getting swept by Detroit, what if they won at least one game. Something to build on. See how the best does it. Learn from what they did. Compare yourself to the best, and get a first hand look, even if only for 4 games, at what it's going to take to get where Detroit is now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KICKSDADDY613:</div><div class="quote_post">^^^^

    All good points. I dont see them REVOLTING, however, don't you think, although maybe getting swept by Detroit, what if they won at least one game. Something to build on. See how the best does it. Learn from what they did. Compare yourself to the best, and get a first hand look, even if only for 4 games, at what it's going to take to get where Detroit is now.</div>
    Good points, especially, the one about if we where able to pull out at least one game it giving us something to build on for the future. I guess it?s all about the way you look at it. I personally am looking at it from the Danny Ainges point of view. In which I would rather miss the playoffs to help the team in the draft, knowing the chances of us doing anything in the playoffs being slim to none. Also the experience factor, although we have a young team right now with little playoff experience, there is a good chance that after this upcoming off season we will have several key additions on the squad that have playoff experience. So we will be able to get that leadership one way or the other.

    <font size=""1"">P.S: Finally conversation in the Bulls board</font>
     
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    I would like to see them making the playoffs. It's a whole new season in the playoffs. Anything can happen... I would rather see them in there though. They still will have a good pick from the Knicks and looking at the draft, if we get Aldridge... Who I think is like the only big guy over 6'10 that is good in the post and coming out of college, others projected in the lotto are all from another country, and I don't know how good they are because I haven't seen them. There are some other nice post players like Williams, etc, 6'9 or under. There are some big guys projected mid first after lotto. There is Paul Davis, Josh Boone, Matt Haryasz, Hilton Armstrong. I don't know how good they are in the post because I haven't seen their games much. I have seen Paul Davis though since he's in the big ten and I watch like every Illini game. He's been good in the post against Illinois and he can shoot. Sorry if it didn't make sense. I just wrote down anything I thought while I was typing and looking at a couple mock drafts for some prospects.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">I would like to see them making the playoffs. It's a whole new season in the playoffs. Anything can happen... I would rather see them in there though. They still will have a good pick from the Knicks and looking at the draft, if we get Aldridge... Who I think is like the only big guy over 6'10 that is good in the post and coming out of college, others projected in the lotto are all from another country, and I don't know how good they are because I haven't seen them. There are some other nice post players like Williams, etc, 6'9 or under. There are some big guys projected mid first after lotto. There is Paul Davis, Josh Boone, Matt Haryasz, Hilton Armstrong. I don't know how good they are in the post because I haven't seen their games much. I have seen Paul Davis though since he's in the big ten and I watch like every Illini game. He's been good in the post against Illinois and he can shoot. Sorry if it didn't make sense. I just wrote down anything I thought while I was typing and looking at a couple mock drafts for some prospects.</div>
    If we don?t get Aldridge I cannot even describe to you how disappointed I will be, but I do agree with you there are a couple big men in the draft that could help the Bulls out. Paul Davis has had a great college career I would not mind us drafting him if Aldridge is gone when we pick, but not if we have a top three selection. There is also a big man coming out of Italy, Andrea Bargnani, who I have not seen much of. However, he has drawn comparisons to the likes of Dirk Nowitzki so don?t be surprised if we go that route should Aldridge not be on the board when we pick. Hell knowing Paxson I would not be surprised if he picked an international player over Aldridge, although, I hope he doesn?t.
     
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    Would it be wise to trade the two first rounders to make sure we get Aldridge?


    On a side note - Do we get the Knicks first pick this year or do we get a choice between this year or next years?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting I-Miss-MJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Would it be wise to trade the two first rounders to make sure we get Aldridge?


    On a side note - Do we get the Knicks first pick this year or do we get a choice between this year or next years?</div>
    Depends what team gets the first overall pick. There is a good chance we will get the first overall pick, but if it?s a team like the Raptors or Bobcats I would stand pat because they will most likely draft Morrison or Gay. However, if it is a team like the Hawks might think about trading up, because they will most likely draft Aldridge. With that said I would rather keep both our picks in this years draft, because no matter who we use them on having two lottery selections is often better than having just one ( Gordon & Deng anyone?).

    To answer your side note. We get there first round pick regardless this year. Then next season we have the option of switching picks with them. So say they have a top five pick, and ours is late teens. We can then switch picks so we have their top five pick.
     
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    dam this eddy curry trade is looking better and better for us

    reading all this i've changed my mind, i would prefer teh bulls make the playoffs and get that 1 win, build that playoff exp, get some leadership, i say we rely more on the knicks pick, than our own, coz atm knicks are 2nd last with a good chance in being last i'd say
     
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    Good. Great confidence builder for young team and the coach. They have a good team. Draft for a center and a back-up PG, or the best player available.
    Team has got to focus on defense over the next two years. I like their chemistry and think they have great passers, guys who can score, very good shooters off the bench. They need a stopper, a blocker, better rebounding and need to stop penetration.
     
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    Exactly what TDoug said.
     
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    Do we need a backup Point Gaurd? We got Hinrich and Duhon and Pargo who can have his days

    A backup SG might be more appropriate.
     
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    A point guard is the last thing we need right now. There is a reason the Bulls did not resign Jay Williams when he received medical clearance to play. We have an overload of small guards on the roster Pargo, Duhon, Gordon, and Hinrich the last thing we need is a backup point guard. That second lottery pick is probably going to be used on a big two guard, at least that is the consensus opinion.
     

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