I see alot of talk around about people talking about stuff like trading him for so and so. let me just say that we cannot do that, He needs a break and if you all saw last season how many minutes he was playing? It was shocking because he was top of the list for i think minutes played per game. What needs to be done is that his minutes need to go down and others need to step up because nobody can handle that sort of abuse which takes a huge toll on the body. So don't be criticizing him and talking crap about trading him because i think that's shear disloyalty and shows a lack of gratefullness for his contributions to the team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting drake:</div><div class="quote_post">I see alot of talk around about people talking about stuff like trading him for so and so. let me just say that we cannot do that, He needs a break and if you all saw last season how many minutes he was playing? It was shocking because he was top of the list for i think minutes played per game. What needs to be done is that his minutes need to go down and others need to step up because nobody can handle that sort of abuse which takes a huge toll on the body. So don't be criticizing him and talking crap about trading him because i think that's shear disloyalty and shows a lack of gratefullness for his contributions to the team.</div> Yea I get pissed off when I hear people saying we need to trade him. They can go to hell. I admit I have critisized him playing while being injured, but it just shows that he wants to win and that he is trying for this team. I remember him playing 44-46 minute games last season, and when we took him out for 1-2 min teams would quickly go on 8-0 scoring runs. I know he will come back next season with something to prove. Thanks for the reminder drake.
I don't follow the Rockets much but the exact same thing is going on with Warrior fans suggesting to trade Baron Davis. I think the fans are just dissapointed with the teams' overall perfomances and they've built up this one player to be the savior so it must also be that players fault that the team is sucking. As a Warrior fan, it sounds absurd to me for the Rockets to trade T-Mac and yet it seems normal to hear Warrior fans propose trades that ship off Baron Davis. I'm not comparing the two players, but they are both in situations where they were supposed to be the guy to get them to the next level (which is different for both teams) but their respective teams arent there for some reason or another.
A lot of people played a lot of minutes last year, you can't use that argument. <u>Last Year Statistics:</u> Tracy McGrady: 78 Games Played, 25.7 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 5.7 APG, 1.73 SPG, in a total of 40.8 MPG. Iverson played in 75 games and averaged 42.3 MPG, while scoring 30.7 PPG. LeBron led the league with 42.4 MPG and played in 80 games. Gilbert Arenas also played in more minutes, averaging 40.9 MPG, while also playing in 80 games. You can't contribute McGrady's struggles to LAST YEAR'S minutes, he had a full off-season to recover. You can't also credit his back to those minutes, as well. He's had a bad back his whole career, not just this year.
Ok so you can't blame stuff on last year, but his back hasn't been like this before. Of course it has been injured but not this badly. He took the Dallas loss really hard and killed him self in the offseason as to single handedly not let it happen again. He trained like crazy. He's also had the mental anguish to deal with this season. I still think T-Mac is one of the best in the league and if he can come back rested and Yao plays like this next year we should be in good shape. He's putting everything he can into the team this season, but maybe he should hang it up this year and rehab and do whatever it is he can to stop these back problems. I know it might not be the same thing but I remember a few years back sam cassell was having problems with back spasms and he got some hip surgery in the offseason that completely corrected it. I think T-Mac needs to concentrate on next season. We really shouldn't even consider trading him though.
there's no way I'd wanna see tmac traded, i'm just hoping his career doesn't end up like grant hill's with his back
Trade Tmac? That's the funniest thing I've heard in 10yrs The guy carried us on his back last year and everybody loves him. This year, he suffers some unfortunate injuries and now you want to trade him lol. Who in the world would you get worth keeping outside of Kobe? (Francis? yea right). Tmac needs to retire a Rocket. These idiotic suggetions aren't worth puttin much into to.
we definetly dont need to trade him. i think he's the type of player that gives us atleast a chance at the title. If we trade him we'll never get it. He is the guy who can take us their. BTW when is he coming back from his injury?.. i want him to come back after he has fully recovered.. not half way recovered.. bcoz when he is half way recovered he gets injured again.
I think these few dayz that tracy get to rest is important and that these few days will let his back recover better for a fight against san antino and allow us a chance.
Yeah tiny baller i agree let Tracy get some rest when he can that way when he comes back he will be better energized and ready to go.
Who the HELL ever said we needed to trade him is what I want to know. The guy just needs to rest up, stay consistent, and help shoulder the pressure with Yao. He did an amazing job last year in the playoffs, almost Jordanesque. Lets hope he can do that either this playoffs or next.
A lot of my friends (well half of them don't know the first thing about basketball) have been suggesting trades with T-Macs name in it. The worst one I have heard so far was (Mike Bibby)/Brad Miller and Ron Artest for T-Mac. I almost bitch slapped him. Then some others wished we could trade him for Kobe/LeBron. I wouldn't want either, even though they are okay trades. We also supposidly could have traded T-Mac for Kobe last offseason because T-Mac's stock was higher than Kobes.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A lot of my friends (well half of them don't know the first thing about basketball) have been suggesting trades with T-Macs name in it. The worst one I have heard so far was (Mike Bibby)/Brad Miller and Ron Artest for T-Mac. I almost bitch slapped him.</div> Exactly. McGrady and Yao are both untradeable at this point. Its one of those things, where franchises don't like giving up star players for star players even though it almost seems like a good trade on the surface. Example, neither team would want to trade Amare for Yao and vice versa.
Remember, the goal is the championship! No matter what it takes, even if it means parting way with T-Mac. Yao is becoming a monster and if T-Mac will play like the way he plays the last months or so, I'd say trade him. I like him and all, but don't waste our time with someone whose injury will hold up our chances for the ring.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post"> Then some others wished we could trade him for Kobe/LeBron. I wouldn't want either, even though they are okay trades. We also supposidly could have traded T-Mac for Kobe last offseason because T-Mac's stock was higher than Kobes.</div>T-Mac is better than Kobe or Lebron? HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH T-Mac is a quitter just like his cousin Vince Carter. Rockets fans will realize that soon enough. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm actually 100% that TMac and Yao will retire with the Rockets.</div> I'm 100% sure that you're incorrect.
I would actaully be willing to trade T-Mac for a bunch of good role players to build around Yao. Right now, the Rockets are basically a team with two superstars and a bunch of scrubs or underchieving potential. The teams record without both Yao and T-Mac speaks volumes about our team. Also, our records without one of our superstars are not that great either. This all tells me that the role players are horrible, because they should be able to win at least one of their games without the big two. In order to win in the NBA you need to have a TEAM, not just a couple of gold goose eggs lying on top of a pile of crap. They are moving in a better direction, with the addition of players like Hayes and Bogans, but they are still far from being a TEAM like Dallas, Phoenix, Spurs, or Detroit. Either build a team around Yao or T-Mac. I would choose Yao for the following reasons: 1. Yao is technically a year younger, but with all of Mcgrady's problems, he might as well be 10 years younger. 2. Mcgrady seems to have peaked, and will likely be on the downslide from here on end. 3. According to JVG, no one works as hard on their game as Yao 4. It is easier to replace a perimeter scorer than a dominating low-post presence. 5. Not his fault, but T-MAc is very unreliable these days 6. Chronic back problems that wil keep him out of games With all that said, I hope I am wrong. Hopefully the Rockets can still become a TEAM without trading either Yao or T-Mac, and that Mcgrady can finally become healthy. Luther Head, Bogans, and Hayes need to develop their games, while Swift needs to start living up to is #2 pick potential.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting evolidiot:</div><div class="quote_post">I would actaully be willing to trade T-Mac for a bunch of good role players to build around Yao. Right now, the Rockets are basically a team with two superstars and a bunch of scrubs or underchieving potential. The teams record without both Yao and T-Mac speaks volumes about our team. Also, our records without one of our superstars are not that great either. This all tells me that the role players are horrible, because they should be able to win at least one of their games without the big two. In order to win in the NBA you need to have a TEAM, not just a couple of gold goose eggs lying on top of a pile of crap. They are moving in a better direction, with the addition of players like Hayes and Bogans, but they are still far from being a TEAM like Dallas, Phoenix, Spurs, or Detroit. Either build a team around Yao or T-Mac. I would choose Yao for the following reasons: 1. Yao is technically a year younger, but with all of Mcgrady's problems, he might as well be 10 years younger. 2. Mcgrady seems to have peaked, and will likely be on the downslide from here on end. 3. According to JVG, no one works as hard on their game as Yao 4. It is easier to replace a perimeter scorer than a dominating low-post presence. 5. Not his fault, but T-MAc is very unreliable these days 6. Chronic back problems that wil keep him out of games With all that said, I hope I am wrong. Hopefully the Rockets can still become a TEAM without trading either Yao or T-Mac, and that Mcgrady can finally become healthy. Luther Head, Bogans, and Hayes need to develop their games, while Swift needs to start living up to is #2 pick potential.</div> Could'nt have said it better myself.....
Technically no center alone has ever won a championship by himself with no major help. I'm sorry to tell you guys but gaurds win games. Why? It is much harder to play defense on a gaurd that is mobile while double teams and screens can wear and tear on any center. Tmac is a major part of this team.Trading either for role players will not help. Why is Wesley open for so many 3's? Answer: Yao clears the lane with his double team and Tmac draws a double team on the opposite wing. Both players are crucial. What this team needs is more chemistry in the shot selection and a third scorer.
