10/3 - Golden State @ Miami

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  1. Gohn

    Gohn JBB JustBBall Member

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    I have a feeling the warriors will win this one.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Jason Richardson is exploding. Crap 25 points in 17 minutes. Too bad he sux at the line.
     
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    wow jrich is on fire, just need to hit those free throws, how many points do u think he will have? so far 25 and not even halftime yet.
     
  4. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I don't know but he's on his way to 50 if he keeps it up. But I bet the guy will be tired in the 4th. Miami can turn it on anytime so long as the point margin isn't too far apart. Shaq and Wade pretty much will kill us inside and out.
     
  5. Gohn

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    Too bad he has no help from anyone else lately. Baron hobbled and everyone else not producing as always it seems like. I've been impressed with how Richardson has singlehandedly kept this team in ball games.

    I'm thinking he'll finish around 45, which would be a new career high for him. I wonder if he can keep up his blistering 3 point shooting. When he gets hot, he never misses.
     
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    The key,as usual,is to NOT have Fish-Dunce shooting,ideally they mainly sit where they are harmless. Monty however will go all pygmy,have the Fish shooting from 30 and the usual late Monty-ball fiasco. Fine...we have only a draft spot at stake now,in reality,but the players must really want to see a WIN. Monty....don't FxxxxK it up...okay?
     
  7. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I'm sure if Dun/Fish weren't locked up until 2010 they'd be sitting where Zarko is sitting right now. Total B.S. Zarko is worth keeping over those guys. Unless of course Mullin overpays once again.
     
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    JRich = Best Warrior. Not Baron.

    We got to keep him. He's the one good player we developed versus Foyle, Dun and Murf.
     
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    It's down to hacka Fish
     
  10. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Goddamn it's like it's a team effort to get us higher draft picks in the lotto. With this many missed free throws and stupid and1 fouls we should be losing.

    We need to dump the Fish and that silly contract he has.
     
  11. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Take a look at the box scores. We're shooting a higher % from three point land than we are at the foul line. I guess we were ahead by the three this time around. We'd be so screwed without the three ball.

    LOL hilarious how Barnett is saying we should do all these things like miss the free throw intentionally to chew up clock. Dude it's a two posession ball game with 1.5 seconds left, Miami has no timeouts to advance the ball. Sometimes Barnett cracks me up.
     
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    Hey!!! -- you lay off Jim Barnett -- that guy coined the adage "Airballs always go to the offensive player."
     
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    Actually Jim Barnett was right. If you miss the second free throw and then there will be some time that will go off for the rebound, and then to shoot it about full lengnth of the court I think would take at least one second to travel. Another strategy was just to make the FT and then it was a five point game and as it took away the possibility of a foul on a made three point attempt, the game was pretty much over, which was the case for tonight's game.

    Anyway, I just watched this game sparatically off and on, but what is the deal with Mickael Pietrus? He went from starter to DNP, what happened there? Two straight DNP's. I haven't heard of any injury and he looked like he was dressed to play.

    Mike Dunleavy is becoming annoying and just bad. He has trouble catching the ball on an easy fastbreak that goes out of bounds(it was funny how Jim Barnett blamed Fisher on the pass, though it went straight off Dunleavy's hands on his way to the basket), then he does a half court bounce pass way too low to Adonal Foyle that goes out of bounds and then he starts pointing and fussing and such. Then he does one of those wusy defensive plays and gets a maybe tacky foul but still, get a little stronger and get your spot and position and then there will be no foul. I was shocked when Mike was guarding Wade for many straight possessions in the game. I was even more shocked that the Heat didn't attack the Warriors and Dunleavy on this.

    I love Jason Richardson's production. But it just still bugs me how little movement is stressed or exacuted when the offense is run through him. I really liked the passing when Baron, Monta, and Fisher were in the game passing the ball on the perimeter, but I just think that when Jason is in there, that type of ball movement doesn't exist, it just becomes too much one-on-one. If this is supposed to be the maximum developing time for these players, then I think learning and teaching Jason Richardson to be this productive while also being a team player is something that should have been taken a look at a long time ago by the current coaching staff. But really, Jason Richardson is playing great, kind of turning into Kobe Bryant. Yet being a team based around that one player like Kobe, especially with a bad coach, can lead to bad team performances, as we all saw last year when the Lakers looked like crap.

    But yeah, I like Jason Richardson, and I like Baron Davis, who looks like he lost a few pounds, he looks very skinny, and Ike Diogu who also looks in great shape right now I think, and Monta played well. And I don't know why people are so much against Fisher, but he's been producing, so I have nothing against his play this year. Fisher is way more productive than say a Mike Dunleavy or in many occasions Adonal Foyle(two starters).

    Miami really didn't look prepared for this game and I think the Warriors shocked the Heat pretty good tonight. Good win.
     
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    Wow, Jason's value is skyrocketing after his stellar play lately. If only he could shoot FT's, could have been a 50pt game.
     
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    I think Pietrus has a sprained ankle, although I'm not completely sure.

    I think J-rich is putting the team on his shoulders and that is one of the reasons why he kind of ballhogging. Not enough people are helping him out scoring wise on a consistent basis. Like Murphy chipped in 17 tonight and maybe next time he'll score 6. It seems like they can never get even 5 players to have a good game. And as long as J-rich is shooting the way he has been, it shouldn't be a problem, but when he gets cold it will get ugly.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Pietrus has a sprained ankle, although I'm not completely sure.

    I think J-rich is putting the team on his shoulders and that is one of the reasons why he kind of ballhogging. Not enough people are helping him out scoring wise on a consistent basis. Like Murphy chipped in 17 tonight and maybe next time he'll score 6. It seems like they can never get even 5 players to have a good game. And as long as J-rich is shooting the way he has been, it shouldn't be a problem, but when he gets cold it will get ugly.</div>

    Working on an offense that gets everyone involved is important though, because of the end of game situations. At the end of the game the tempo slows down and it's much easier to shut down one guy, like Jason Richardson or at least give him more attention and really contest shots. And if there is nothing to get something else going, then you just see terrible production in the end of games or just in long stretches. It's great watching Jason do what he is doing. But the good teams are able to get other players around to chip in and get buckets too. Really, I am not too sure if it's about other players not being able to score and help out Jason, or if it's the team not working together very well and not enough stress on setting up a system that gets everyone involved and productive by the coaching staff. Honestly, I am not very impressed by how the Warriors play on offense with Jason on the court with Baron all the time. Jason and Baron look great when they can get running together up and down the court and do ally-oops. But on a slow tempo half-court important possession situations, I believe there needs to be a lot better work made between Jason and Baron and also Derek Fisher.

    Ok I am sorry for being negative after this win. Like I said, it was a good win, and is only an example of how this team has such good talent.
     
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    Yes, I agree with you Clif that they do need to run the offense better, in a more team oriented way so that all the players can be threats, but I'm getting the feeling from the few games that I've watched that the inconsistency of everyone else is a big problem. J-rich and fisher for the most part are the only ones who are consistent and Baron also, aside from his shooting woes. Murphy is pretty consistent with the boards, but his scoring is up and down. The rest of the players are inconsistent, never know what to expect out of them.

    I just think that at the moment, they have no choice, but to put the team on their backs. Earlier in the season I was blaming Baron for being a ballhog, but after his absence I could see why he put the scoring load on himself.

    No need to be sorry about being negative. It's going to hurt the team in the long run and even now, they just got away with it this game because J-rich shot lights out.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Gotta love this kids defense.
     
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    Bottom line... JRich is having a career game and with 5 minutes left Fish shoots 3 times out of 4 trips up the court, 2 of them 3's with 18 secs or more on the shot clock. I want to know when he decided that he was Kobe? I can't stand it when he's on the floor.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Clif25:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike Dunleavy is becoming annoying and just bad. He has trouble catching the ball on an easy fastbreak that goes out of bounds(it was funny how Jim Barnett blamed Fisher on the pass, though it went straight off Dunleavy's hands on his way to the basket), then he does a half court bounce pass way too low to Adonal Foyle that goes out of bounds and then he starts pointing and fussing and such. Then he does one of those wusy defensive plays and gets a maybe tacky foul but still, get a little stronger and get your spot and position and then there will be no foul. I was shocked when Mike was guarding Wade for many straight possessions in the game. I was even more shocked that the Heat didn't attack the Warriors and Dunleavy on this.</div>

    It seems to me Dunleavy has only played really well this season when he was trying to get traded. I wonder if he wants to play here because of his big downturn in performance. Being traded or not traded is part of the game. You still have to perform whether you are or aren't.

    That said, I blame Mullin for giving Dun such a big extension when he could've waited to the end of season to evaluate. It seems like it takes Mullin a second to decide to give big contracts to HIS players, but takes forever to evaluate the WHOLE team.

    But I blame Monty more. Monty's system just doesn't work here. I gave Monty a lot of leeway, but he's not getting the most out of Dun, Baron, AB and the rooks. He should be on Foyle to improve his rebounding and Murphy to at least try to stay with his man. I still question his substitutions [​IMG] at this late date.

    Barnett can be annoying in that he's too much a Dun fan or Cohan employee, but he's better than most analysts and entertaining. The guy I despise is Eddie Johnson as PHX's announcer. He SUCH a homer with a capial H [​IMG]. These guys should realize that it's not only the home town fans watching and listening.

    I shouldn't be soooooo negative in that it was a great win for us in that we haven't beaten Miami in Miami since 1993. It was like being constipated all those years and finally getting relief [​IMG].
     

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