who knows? vince is just jealous of kobe since he is better than him. kobe has all the rings, vince doesnt. kobe scored 81 points, vince didnt. its just a matter of jealously
yup i agree... vince thinks he's so good when all he does is DUNk dunk and only dunk... he gets his points from his leaping ability but when carter is Off he is OFF unlike kobe when he is off he could still score 30 points hahaha
you take away vince and his athletic ability, you get nothing more than just an average player. you take away kobe and his athletic ability, you still have a player that can score 30 + a night with his jumper
i agree kobe is better than vince, but saying vince without athletic ability equals average player is just plain ignorant. You obviously didn't watch many nets game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatever:</div><div class="quote_post">but saying vince without athletic ability equals average player is just plain ignorant. You obviously didn't watch many nets game.</div> i obviously didnt. and i what i meant with what i said is an average "star" player. i left the star out by accident. without his athletic ability, vince will most likely not be in any all star games, but he can still have the ability to shoot the ball. vince's shooting is below kobe's level, and at times he gets very streaky, so he will most likely be a player like a better man's quinten richardson
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i agree kobe is better than vince, but saying vince without athletic ability equals average player is just plain ignorant. You obviously didn't watch many nets game. </div> ^^^I have to agree, Vince isn't on the same level as Kobe, but I'm not fixin to front like Vince is a athelete and that's it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatever:</div><div class="quote_post">i agree kobe is better than vince, but saying vince without athletic ability equals average player is just plain ignorant. You obviously didn't watch many nets game.</div> I think hes average right now!
^^well your obviously biased if you say he's average now. I agree Kobe is better than Vince but lets face facts they're both athletic and if you take it away from them they would both be average. Kobe get open and by defenders because of his ahtleticism and same with Vince. I don't see a fued there just a competitive rivalry they haven't stated they have a problem in public and people took what Vince said about Kobe's 81 the wrong way and out of context.
I don't know what "feud" you guys are talking about, all I know is that the Nets are 2-0 tthis season against your Lakers, and they won last night despite both Kidd and VC being sick...hahaha.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">you take away vince and his athletic ability, you get nothing more than just an average player. you take away kobe and his athletic ability, you still have a player that can score 30 + a night with his jumper</div> You know athletic ability is more than just jumping. You take away Kobe's ability to jump, his quickness, and his speed, and he's not a player that scores 30+ a night. The reason Kobe can get his shot off whenever he wants is because he's so athletic. The reason he can rise and hit his jumpshot over defenders is because he has jumping ability. The reason he can get in the lane and finish acrobatically is because he's so athletic. You take that away all that, and he's no superstar, the same as all the other premier swingmen. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phiLA:</div><div class="quote_post">i obviously didnt. and i what i meant with what i said is an average "star" player. i left the star out by accident. without his athletic ability, vince will most likely not be in any all star games, but he can still have the ability to shoot the ball. vince's shooting is below kobe's level, and at times he gets very streaky, so he will most likely be a player like a better man's quinten richardson</div> Q-Rich is athletic, athleticism is not what makes a player. Carter has been a better 3PT shooter than Kobe his whole career, and still is a better 3PT shooter. I'm not sure about him getting streaky, he's no more or less streaky than Pierce, Kobe, Tmac etc are. Carter had a season where he was shooting jumpers all day and averaged 20.6 PPG on 46.7% FG and 34.4% 3PT in 34 minutes of play. That's 24.1 PPG PER 40 minutes, for an injured guy shooting jumpers who supposedly only scores due to athletic ability... Vince obviously isn't as good as Kobe, but to start limiting his game to him being a Gerald Wallace who magically shot 40% from 3PT range 3 seasons, and +38% 5 seasons is just stupid. I think they like to go hard at each other. They were the 2 best SG's in the league for a while, but I don't know about a rivarly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">yup i agree... vince thinks he's so good when all he does is DUNk dunk and only dunk... he gets his points from his leaping ability but when carter is Off he is OFF unlike kobe when he is off he could still score 30 points hahaha</div> Wow, could you be any more of a fan boy?
I don't know why you're all trash-talking VC. His team beat Kobe's team despite both him and Kidd being sick. And then you're boy Kobe has 13 seconds left on the clock to make something happens and he ends up air-balling a VC-contested 3 from way outside.
^^yea VC clamped down on Kobe there forcing Kobe into a bad shot when he had Lamar Odom and Smush open for threes I believe.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">^^yea VC clamped down on Kobe there forcing Kobe into a bad shot when he had Lamar Odom and Smush open for threes I believe.</div> Kobe swatted a Vince Carter jumpshot away. Kobe also had 11 assists which meant that he was double teamed all night. Thats more than double his usual assits figure. Kobe had the better game by Carter stats wise. I don't thinm Vince contained Kobe that well because Kobe's been in a shooting slump recently and he shot around the same percentage as he has been recently. I never saw the game so could somebody explain who had the better game?
^^Please stop withthe excuses. Everyone blocks shots it happens and apparently it didn't affect the game to much. Also, I think Vince blocked that last second shot by Kobe. I'm glad Kobe had 11 assists because he has capable players like Lamar and Smush around him. Stop making excuses for Kobe that he's in a slump or whatnot the fact is that Vince shut him down on themost important possesion of the game. I'm sure Kobe had a better individual game, but what matters for both these teams is who wins. Also, Vince AND Kidd were sick as Vivre mentioned.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Please stop withthe excuses. Everyone blocks shots it happens and apparently it didn't affect the game to much. Also, I think Vince blocked that last second shot by Kobe. I'm glad Kobe had 11 assists because he has capable players like Lamar and Smush around him. Stop making excuses for Kobe that he's in a slump or whatnot the fact is that Vince shut him down on themost important possesion of the game. I'm sure Kobe had a better individual game, but what matters for both these teams is who wins. Also, Vince AND Kidd were sick as Vivre mentioned.</div> Jason Kidd was the player guarding Kobe at the end, Jason Kidd was also the player who hit the daggar for the Nets.
"They were sick." Your point being? When Kobe was sick he pulled through for the team as well. All this arguement is, IS a bunch of excuses. I for one don't like making excuses. You want to do that though, how about the Lakers. Without consistent Big Man and starting center Chris Mihm. We were also without 6th man Devean George. Could they have made a difference?? I say damn well they could have but we don't know. Point is the Nets did win. Vince, Jason, and Richard did it for the Nets. Kobe, Lamar, and Smush were able to match... it was the X-Factor Nened Kristic that took us to school, hope you guys don't forget that. Nets won. Lakers lost. Its over. Next game we look forward to the Lebron and Kobe show. Should be exciting.
What's this "feud" you guys are talking about? Does this have to do with Carter's comments after Kobe's 81-point game? I thought it was settled that those remarks were totally taken out of context.
