Joakim Noah: "NBA is boring"

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  1. phunDamentalz

    phunDamentalz JBB JustBBall Member

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    you guys have convinced me.
    when does march madness start?
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  2. NTC

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">As for the money aspect, Joakim Noah's family is loaded already.</div>

    I've seen this said a few times on here, and I was just wondering, how is his family "loaded" already? Not that I'm surprised or anything, I'm just curious.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">Why do people think they play with more heart in college? Just cause they throw their bodies around and run for 40 mins. straight? Part of the game is mental too and PACING yourself and picking your spots. Most of the college kids know that they ain't going to the NBA so they play for fun, whatever it's not their #1 thing. The NBA players however - this is their LIFE, and there's a difference between a grown man at 28 or 30 making the career of his LIFE versus college kids playing hard just cause march madness is "fun". Nobody cares who won the NCAA last year or the year before, but everyone knows who won the NBA title. Otherwise Christian Laettner would be as famous as Michael Jordan. More money more pressure and when the pressure gets hot, that's when the real chefs start cookin.</div>

    Sorry, but this makes no sense.
    1. "Most of the college kids know that they ain't going to the NBA so they play for fun, whatever it's not their #1 thing. The NBA players however - this is their LIFE, and there's a difference between a grown man at 28 or 30 making the career of his LIFE versus college kids playing hard just cause march madness is "fun"."
    That's the definition of heart. Because they desire to win, not for a paycheck and going nuts in your contract year. For school pride, for team pride, for individual pride. If you think they play just to have fun, you obviously don't watch.
    2. "Nobody cares who won the NCAA last year or the year before, but everyone knows who won the NBA title."
    Do you really think that's true? Maybe in your circle of friends and maybe it's not publicised as much because it's not as well-funded, but we remember. case in point...
    3. "Otherwise Christian Laettner would be as famous as Michael Jordan."
    We all remember how good Laettner was in college, we all remember "the shot". What's your point? You're not comparing Laettner to Jordan, are you? Lattner will be remembered as a great college player. Jordan will be remembered as the best of all time at any level that over a long stretch was a 14-time all-star, 3-time all-star MVP, won 6 titles, 5-time MVP, 9-time... do I really need to go on? Really bad point, phun.

    >j<
     
  4. Greazy9

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">I've seen this said a few times on here, and I was just wondering, how is his family "loaded" already? Not that I'm surprised or anything, I'm just curious.</div>

    His father was Yannick (sp?) Noah, the tennis legend.

    >j<
     
  5. Chutney

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">I've seen this said a few times on here, and I was just wondering, how is his family "loaded" already? Not that I'm surprised or anything, I'm just curious.</div>
    His mother was a model I think. His father was a famous French tennis player.
     
  6. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Greazy9:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, but this makes no sense.
    1. "Most of the college kids know that they ain't going to the NBA so they play for fun, whatever it's not their #1 thing. The NBA players however - this is their LIFE, and there's a difference between a grown man at 28 or 30 making the career of his LIFE versus college kids playing hard just cause march madness is "fun"."
    That's the definition of heart. Because they desire to win, not for a paycheck and going nuts in your contract year. For school pride, for team pride, for individual pride. If you think they play just to have fun, you obviously don't watch.
    2. "Nobody cares who won the NCAA last year or the year before, but everyone knows who won the NBA title."
    Do you really think that's true? Maybe in your circle of friends and maybe it's not publicised as much because it's not as well-funded, but we remember. case in point...
    3. "Otherwise Christian Laettner would be as famous as Michael Jordan."
    We all remember how good Laettner was in college, we all remember "the shot". What's your point? You're not comparing Laettner to Jordan, are you? Lattner will be remembered as a great college player. Jordan will be remembered as the best of all time at any level that over a long stretch was a 14-time all-star, 3-time all-star MVP, won 6 titles, 5-time MVP, 9-time... do I really need to go on? Really bad point, phun.

    >j<</div>

    Also to throw in another point about Laettner and Jordan. In college individual players are not marketed, the institution is marketed. In the NBA they used to market the team, but now they market individuals.

    So maybe the casual fan doesn't know who Christian Laettner is, but I bet most are familiar with Duke basketball.
     
  7. GatorsowntheNCAA

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">His mother was a model I think. His father was a famous French tennis player.</div>

    Yeah she was Miss Sweden one year and came in 4th in the Miss Universe pageant and his dad is Yannick Noah, one of the best French tennis players ever.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah she was Miss Sweden one year and came in 4th in the Miss Universe pageant and his dad is Yannick Noah, one of the best <strike>French</strike> tennis players ever.</div>

    He was one of the best tennis players ever.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">you guys have convinced me.
    when does march madness start?
    [​IMG]</div>
    Hahaha...I bet you have never sat down and watched a college basketball game have ya? The tournament has been going on for the past few weeks now...so how can you say the NBA is better when you don't have a clue about the college game at all?
     
  10. phunDamentalz

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting UKFan33:</div><div class="quote_post">Hahaha...I bet you have never sat down and watched a college basketball game have ya? The tournament has been going on for the past few weeks now...so how can you say the NBA is better when you don't have a clue about the college game at all?</div>
    that was a joke dude
    when does "MARCH" madness start?
    probably in march huh

    stay in school!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">that was a joke dude
    when does "MARCH" madness start?
    probably in march huh

    stay in school!</div>

    For someone with the name phundamentalz I figured you would be the 1st person on the NCAA bandwagon, because it's all fundamentals and the NBA has none.
     
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    phunDamentalz is like the most sarcastic poster on JBB.
     
  13. TDoug

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    Why do so many little old ladies love the Braves? They see them all the time, they get to know them, they root for them. I'm that way with my college team. But with the NBA, it's the same and it's different. You get to know the team, maybe you like a player or maybe the player was from your favorite college team, and you root for the team. But the difference is the opportunity to witness great personal battles. Yes, there are some decent college matchups. But I want to see Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett prove who the best man is on the court. I want to see Chris Paul and Baron Davis glaring at one another. I want to see Amare Stoudamare and Dirk Nowitzki try to stop each other. I want to see someone in Kobe's jersey making him and Phil Jackson cry to the refs. I want to see Iverson hot and mad taking the ball at Jason Kidd and Vince Carter. I want to see Shaq get mad, again, at someone on the opposing team, maybe Rasheed "my ankle hurts" Wallace,
    and scare the bejeebers out of him. I want to see 21st century gladiators without helmets and pads battle, survive and move on to glory and legend not only with great coaching, teamwork, smart play and talent, but with guts and acceptance of great personal challenge and adversity.
     
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    Man, I don't like that guy. Go George Mason! <Total bandwagon
     
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    I expect Noah has lived a little more than most guys his age and finds a whole lot of things less than interesting. But you wouldn't guess basketball and competition bores him the way he's accepted the challenge and improved this year. Money? The kid's Dad is an institution in the tennis world and a legend in the social stratosphere of New York, London and Paris and apparently is so loaded he doesn't have to run camps or shill for a network sports production. Instead he records and produces reggae in France. His mom sculpts in NYC.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TDoug:</div><div class="quote_post">Why do so many little old ladies love the Braves? They see them all the time, they get to know them, they root for them. I'm that way with my college team. But with the NBA, it's the same and it's different. You get to know the team, maybe you like a player or maybe the player was from your favorite college team, and you root for the team. But the difference is the opportunity to witness great personal battles. Yes, there are some decent college matchups. But I want to see Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett prove who the best man is on the court. I want to see Chris Paul and Baron Davis glaring at one another. I want to see Amare Stoudamare and Dirk Nowitzki try to stop each other. I want to see someone in Kobe's jersey making him and Phil Jackson cry to the refs. I want to see Iverson hot and mad taking the ball at Jason Kidd and Vince Carter. I want to see Shaq get mad, again, at someone on the opposing team, maybe Rasheed "my ankle hurts" Wallace,
    and scare the bejeebers out of him. I want to see 21st century gladiators without helmets and pads battle, survive and move on to glory and legend not only with great coaching, teamwork, smart play and talent, but with guts and acceptance of great personal challenge and adversity.</div>
    Dude, lay off the Gatorade.

    It's in the NBA
    Is it in YOU.....?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Also to throw in another point about Laettner and Jordan. In college individual players are not marketed, the institution is marketed. In the NBA they used to market the team, but now they market individuals.

    So maybe the casual fan doesn't know who Christian Laettner is, but I bet most are familiar with Duke basketball.</div>

    Good point. And Jordan may be the best player the NBA has ever seen, he's also the best marketed player in any sport's in history

    >j<
     
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    The NBA is my favorite league in the world, but no atmosphere in the pros will ever compare to an arena full of college kids screaming their heads off, bouncing up and down for 40 minutes straight.
     
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    Any who thinks the NBA is boring obviously missed todays game of the cavs vs heat.
     
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    I enjoy both equally. I just love BBALL period. My old high school just won their 3rd title in 5 years here on Guam.. You should have seen me go crazy the entire game. I lost my voice. As long as the events are organized, I love watching bball games. College, NBA, high school.. Whatevers... I LOVE BASKETBALL. That should be a true basketball fans mentality.
     

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