In your opinion who is the toughest superstar to build a team around? I'd say Allen Iverson. Now I know he's a great player and all but they can never find the right mix of guys to play with him. Accept for 2001 when have they gone far?
Stephon Marbury appears to be pretty difficult to build around too. At least an Iverson-led team got to the Finals.
I don't know if I consider Marbury a superstar and Randolph isn't one in my mind either. I'm tlkaing about elite players like AI or Kobe or T-Mac guys like that
If you're going to narrow it down like that, you should list all the players you're thinking about. Superstar is too subjective a term. I interpreted it as franchise players.
I would say Kevin Garnett it’s hard to think that it would be so hard to build around a versatile seven footer, but the Wolves have shown over the last several years just how difficult it is. Then after that probable Allen Iverson. I love AI, but with his style of play there are very few guys in the league that complement him well.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I would say Kevin Garnett it’s hard to think that it would be so hard to build around a versatile seven footer, but the Wolves have shown over the last several years just how difficult it is. Then after that probable Allen Iverson. I love AI, but with his style of play there are very few guys in the league that complement him well.</div> Please explain how it is hard to build around Kevin Garnett. The Minnesota front office is just dumb, and only surrounded him with a good supporting cast once (and they got to the WCF).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Please explain how it is hard to build around Kevin Garnett. The Minnesota front office is just dumb, and only surrounded him with a good supporting cast once (and they got to the WCF).</div>The fact that his team has had only one season in which they have advanced past the first round is explanation enough if it?s like you say and the front office is just stupid. Then every front office who fails to build around a dominant player is stupid.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">In your opinion who is the toughest superstar to build a team around? I'd say Allen Iverson. Now I know he's a great player and all but they can never find the right mix of guys to play with him. Accept for 2001 when have they gone far?</div> I would agree that AI is the hardest to build around, but then again you have to realize that the Sixers' front office (mainly Billy King) is just retarded. Larry Brown knew how to build around him... and then BK just started screwing everything up.
You got to distinguish between a player's problems and the front office's. The only possible knock you can put on KG is that his contract is huge, but even then, McHale has been horrible over the years. Same can be said for Billy King and Iverson. I mean we can't really fault Elton Brand for being a Clipper. Players like Marbury, Randolph and Baron have either shown problems with their teammates or their work ethic.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I would say Kevin Garnett it?s hard to think that it would be so hard to build around a versatile seven footer, but the Wolves have shown over the last several years just how difficult it is. Then after that probable Allen Iverson. I love AI, but with his style of play there are very few guys in the league that complement him well.</div> KG is the most versatile PF's in the league. He knows his role and plays his heart and hustles every game. He isn't hard to build around they just have nobody to build around him. They never get the good spice and make it "taste" horrible. But to answer the question posed in the beginning I would have to say, Marbury. Every team he leaves gets better, and whatever team he is on gets worse and/or reaches incredible lows.
The best players Garnett has played with since he's been in Minnesota have been Marbury (who hasn't won anything anywhere), Szcerbiak (pretty good player, but obviously not allstar caliber), an aging Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell, and now Ricky Davis. That's the best the Wolves front office have come up with since Garnett has been there. To me, that's not evidence that Garnett is hard to build around. The Wolves simply haven't put a lot of good players around him over the years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact that his team has had only one season in which they have advanced past the first round is explanation enough if it?s like you say and the front office is just stupid. Then every front office who fails to build around a dominant player is stupid.</div> They are dumb and mostly to blame for KG's woes. Remember the dodgy joe smith trade or watever. They lost like 3yrs 1st round picks. That's stupid in my books. But also teh fact that KG demands such a high salary makes it difficult to get good pieces. I blame KG for that one.
Kobe and Iverson would top that list. lol at KG being hard to build around. A guy wins 52 games in a tough Western conference [this is when it was crazy], with Troy Hudson as his main 2nd option, and Szczerbiak the real 2nd option only playing 50 something games, and he's hard to build around? That's laughable. The first time the guy has a "good" team [still not comparing to some others], he wins 58 games and MVP, and he's hard to build around? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You got to distinguish between a player's problems and the front office's. The only possible knock you can put on KG is that his contract is huge, but even then,</div> Didn't KG take a huge paycut. In 03-04 he made $28 million, then in 04-05, he made $16 million. Normally your salary goes up, that's about a $14 million drop because I think he would've been on to $30 million on the previous contract. Right now, KG is making $18 million, $1.6-2.2 million more than AI, Kidd, JO, Marbury, Kobe, Finley, and Duncan. $2.5 million more than Hill, McGrady, Jalen, and Van Horn. Right now his salary is perfectly fine.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact that his team has had only one season in which they have advanced past the first round is explanation enough if it?s like you say and the front office is just stupid. Then every front office who fails to build around a dominant player is stupid.</div> You can't sit their and tell me McHale has put good players around Garnett. If you really think it's hard to build around Garnett, then theirs no way I could convince you, but I'll just let you know that's totally wrong anyway. I think your the only one who thinks that.
