Hey you guys after looking at the two players and seeing what they both did their second years i am convinced that Josh Smith can be something great. In terms of what he could do so far on the court with his atheleticisum and a bit of shooting. We Should really trade for this guy. Heck i would even give our lottery pick for Josh Smith and ATL would do it just because they need a point guard and they can get when Josh Smith has a great shot at being our Lock Down defender and can grab us a lot of rebounds and nail open shots. With JVG coaching he is bound to be a good defender. Back to the comparison http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tracy_mcgrady/index.html Check out his second and third season in development. Now Checkout Josh Smith's http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_smith/index.html they look awfully alike except Josh Smith's 3pt shooting percentage is higher. I feel he could be a good contributer what do you all think?
Smith is bigger than Tracy so that's a weird comparison there really arent a lot of people you can compare Josh to because of his size.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">Smith is bigger than Tracy so that's a weird comparison there really arent a lot of people you can compare Josh to because of his size.</div>umm...Smith only has one inch and ten pounds on T-Mac, so I think size is one of the only things you actually can compare. As for the stats comparison, T-Mac only played 18 and 22 mpg in his first two years. Josh Smith has played 28 and 31 mpg, which is a big difference.
You cant compare Josh Smith first and second years with TMac. Look at Games Started and minutes played. People forget, in Toronto when TMac first came, he was used as a defensive player if he wanted to get off the bench. I dont think Atlanta will trade him though. I think they resign Al Harrington, keep him with Joe.
josh smith? he cant even dunk/block/layup with his right hand, wtf??? hes hell of a player but josh smith and tmac?? nope
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">umm...Smith only has one inch and ten pounds on T-Mac, so I think size is one of the only things you actually can compare.</div> I don't think T-Mac is really 6'8" because he looks a lot taller than that. At teams he looks as tall or taller than Stromile Swift who is listed at 6'9". As for Smith's and T-Mac's weight, I think Smith's lower body is bigger than McGrady's. T-Mac has those chicken legs, haha.
Lottery Pick for Josh Smith? I really sont think he's worth a lottery pick. just think who we can get instead of him from the draft.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">just think who we can get instead of him from the draft.</div> Who? Smith is a 6-7 RPG, 2 BPG SF. The only other SF's in the league that do that are Gerald Wallace and AK47. Pretty good company wouldn't you say? He's only 20 and has got tons of potential. I'll take Smith over a #11 pick in this draft. (where the Rockets are currently).
Yah but we need a guy who can come in has some experience and contribute right away. We arn't going to get a chris paul or someone like that with that pick someone who can step right into a big role. With Josh smith we can have that. We get a guy who can defend steal block dunk and is developing quite a three point shot like the ones he hig on utah. I feel he is the perfect guy beside t-mac becaus he has great quickness and agility to go with very long arms. I think Van Gundy can mold him into a top shut down defender that shutsdown the better sg or sf on the other team. He also could spread defence of the other team by nailing down that shot if he gets it. plus he would give us another great set of legs to go on the run when yao is out of the game. His offence seems to be developing and i see no problem of him averaging 15pts next year because his mid ranged shot and three point shot all go in consistently to a point. You guys don't see him beside T-Mac?
It's an interesting comparison. McGrady was better, but I think Smith will eventually become an All-star. McGrady was a little more involved in the offense while on the court, he didn't turn it over as much, and he was a better passer. But they are similar.
T-Mac is closer to 6'10". He was measured at 6'8" and a little when he was drafted out of highschool, but grew over the first few years of his career.
Oh plus the fact that Atlanta's entire team is filled with SFs aka Josh Childress and Marvin Williams. SInce they have that many they probably would like the pick to adress other needs. How would you guys feel having him beside Mcgrady and going out and getting him?
Smith isn't worth a lottery pick. The Hawks already have a most likely top 3 pick and they aren't going to go young much longer. The pieces are there, and Smith could have a chance to be even more of a contributor next season if Harrington leaves. He's one-dimensional with no jumper, and would basically be a longer Keith Bogans. What we need on the wing right now are shooters who can make three-pointers. We'd need to wait a few years for Smith to be able to do that consistently. The pick would be much better served if we use it to draft a guy like Shelden Williams.
But you guys think about it. This guy allows us great versatility. On defence i feel he could be something like AK47 except even quicker with better hops. He also has more muscle too. He can defend the Pf/Sf/SG maybe we can make him a lockdown guy. Also you guys should watch him in games he can make the 3pt shot sometimes with guys in his face but he isn't at all consistent which should improve every year. He could also back up the pf as well as start at SG because think bout it he seems more of a basketball player then Swift himself even swatting more shots then swift who is a pf and as awkward as it may seem getting even more rebounds then swift. I guess he works hard in the offseason because i think his three point shot has gotten a lot better so we can expect much of the same if he comes to this team in the offseason. Maybe Atlanta would take Stromile Swift and a Second in 2007 back for Josh Smith or who knowes. Personally i would give up this years lotto for him because in my mind he is a sure contributor because look at the guys we will get in the draft we will never be sure if they can contribute as much as him furthermore he is still younger than most of them. I say trade the pick for him because look at carney look at roy look at brewer is anyone of them gaurenteed to contribute in the first season. No is Smith? Yes so what do you guys think?
If we're really looking for a contributor who can give us some versatility on the wing, why not go after Gerald Wallace instead? This is a guy who is even better of a defender, and is probably the closest Andre Kirilenko clone you can find. Charlotte might not be so ready to give him up but the pick plus Head might work. Just don't see why Josh Smith is the one we should go after when there are better options out there.
We can't place Gerald Wallce beside T-mac he has absolute no sign of a jumper after many years of a supposed development. actually he just doesn't have the three down but Josh Smith is a guy down the road that we can count on to be the third all star on the team. He has a jumper he can take it to hoop and he will be great defender under van gundy. Different between him and many players with that kinda talent is he has a grind to work hard seen seen from the progression and expansion on his game. He is only 20 years old and we can expect to see great improvements out of him. Reason for trading the pick. He can contribute a lot more than anyone who we can draft this year. Secondly he has the most upside of anyone in the draft. If he was in this year's draft he would be #1 pick especially when rudy gay ranks up with them Josh Smith is even better more atheletic and even better in all areas. He is the best option beside Mcgrady because now they can't double off of a perimeter from Smith and they can't double off of the post because of yao ming. Getting another legitamate scorer would virutally stop all double teams meaning yao and t-mac can dominate. I believe he will progress even more offensively this summer and be a great player. Reason why Atlanta would give him to us for the pick is because they have too many swingmans. Plus i believe he is the best all around player we can get in free agency and the draft. Plus Atlanta may give him up for Stromile Swift since they were offering him a 6 year 52 million dollar deal last year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">Lottery Pick for Josh Smith? I really sont think he's worth a lottery pick. just think who we can get instead of him from the draft.</div> If Smith were in this current draft he'd go at number 1. He's also still extremely young. Atlanta wouldn't do such a deal anyway. Why give up a good thing to take a flyer on an unknown who isn't likely to reach Smith's level anyway?
Because of the simple fact they have someone else with maybe even more potential from a basketball stand point. Marvin Williams. Plus they have Childress at the two. And No matter what people say Josh Smith's natural position is never going to Power Forward. Hawks need a point guard or center badily and there are good point guards in this draft so they could take a center with their pick and a pg with ours.
