<font color="red">Look, you don't get respect over here at JBB by plagerizing. You didn't give credit to the author for the post. I don't have a problem with the topic, because honestly, I think Kobe's the MVP. Find your own support though. -K8B</font>
Finally someone giving some MVP props to lebron, great analysis, although i don't agree that the suns would still be a divison winner without nash. You have to leave amare out of the equation now, nobody knows what will happen with him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brasco:</div><div class="quote_post">Finally someone giving some MVP props to lebron, great analysis, although i don't agree that the suns would still be a divison winner without nash. You have to leave amare out of the equation now, nobody knows what will happen with him.</div> If Amare were healthy!
i dont know how ur an mvp favorite by passing the ball to open players, instead of a person who carries his whole team to a win every damn night
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philip2136:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont know how ur an mvp favorite by passing the ball to open players, instead of a person who carries his whole team to a win every damn night</div> steve nash is an mvp canidate because he makes everyone around him better. i think this season, all the suns starters are averaging career highs in points per game. last year, steve nash took a team that was in the lottery to one of the top teams in the west. nash is definetly an mvp canidate for sure.
Steve nash is going to win, there is no doubt in my mind that he wont, kobe just cannot win with the amount of people who dislike him plus steve has had a better season then last.
i think one of the reasons that nash gets so many assists is because his team mates make their open shots when nash passes them the ball. If kobes team mates made their open shots kobe will get a lot of assists too. So Kobe better win. Just look at our team, and were number 7, and all the records kobe has broken this year he better get it.
One reason LeBron should not be considered for the MVP award is his lack of effort on defense. He doesn't guard the best perimeter player from the opposing team, and hasn't shut anyone down all season long. Kobe Bryant plays both ends of the floor. Best scorer in the league, and the best perimeter defender on his team. For this reason he should be ahead of LeBron James in the MVP voting. I think it's really between Kobe and Nash. Depending on your philosophy for how the MVP should be decided is how you should vote. If you feel the MVP should be the best player in the league then Kobe Bryant should get the vote. If you feel the MVP should be the player on one of the best teams in the league and someone who has gone through adversity all year, then Steve Nash should get the vote. My vote would go to Steve Nash.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">One reason LeBron should not be considered for the MVP award is his lack of effort on defense. He doesn't guard the best perimeter player from the opposing team, and hasn't shut anyone down all season long. ... My vote would go to Steve Nash.</div> It seems like you're holding LeBron to a higher standard. While I agree that LeBron isn't a very good defender, he does enough on that end (defensive rebounder, steals, blocks, deflections) to keep him at least average. And he'll make a spectacular play every now and then, like Kobe. From the Laker games I watched, Kobe's defense is just adequate the majority of the time. When he's particularly focused, he can be a suffocating one-on-one defender, but in most of the Laker games I've watched this season he hasn't been that way. For a while, I was in the Dwyane Wade camp. After the last few weeks, LeBron gets my vote. He's been phenomenal. I think he's the most valuable player AND the best player in the league. What's scary is that despite him being so amazing right now, you can see that there's plenty of scope for improvement. I think Nash will win it (10 years from now fans will look back and wonder what the hell we were thinking), and Kobe will get 2nd place in the voting.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post"></div> The Suns have more victories and Nash always defends the opposing PG. LeBron always guards the weaker offensive player on the court.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philip2136:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont know how ur an mvp favorite by passing the ball to open players, instead of a person who carries his whole team to a win every damn night</div> If Steve Nash or any other player took the ball as much as Kobe did on a team in the situation he is in, they'd do the exact same thing.
I dont understand why Nash is even being considered. I really have to say, this love fest with Nash is becoming more and more apparent. Sportwriters love Nash. Period! Nash is a fine player, indeed, but if he weren't percieved to be genetically disadvantaged and therefore an overacheiver, he wouldn't get nearly the accolades he gets. We would appreciate his quickness and not call it craftiness or intelligence with the ball. It's quickness, people. As god-given as the quickness that allows Tony Parker or Ginobili to penetrate the lane. No one had ever won an MVP with such pedestrian numbers before, and one of the greatest arguments for him this year is that his numbers are up. First of all, his assists are not up. And secondly, last I checked, the Suns will probably win 10 games less than they won last year. Amare or not, how can an MVP's team win 10 less games from his MVP year, and he be considered the MVP again? That makes no sense. There is a reason that every team he's played significant minutes on, is not a defensive powerhouse. Or even adequate. Dirk and Amare were the MVP's last year, not Nash and Shaq. Let's not make the same mistake this year. Put Nash's numbers side by side with the other top candidates -that's what the writer should do- (Bryant, James, Nowitzki, Billups, Brand, ).The Suns system will make any player OFFENSIVELY better. Nash is just a cog in a system. If they had Tony Parker on their roster that would be evident. Bryant and James should be the MVP race.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">If Steve Nash or any other player took the ball as much as Kobe did on a team in the situation he is in, they'd do the exact same thing.</div> Switch Nash and Kobe straight up. I bet Nash's assist get halfed.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Suns have more victories and Nash always defends the opposing PG. LeBron always guards the weaker offensive player on the court.</div> Nash defends the opposing PG because he usually doesn't have the size/strength to defend any other position. I can't think of a single defensive area in which he has a positive impact, though. From what I've seen, LeBron generally guards the opposing SF (his position). He lacks the quickness to stay with the smaller guards (at 6'8, 240 lbs if he was capable of stopping 2-guards as well then that would be insane). Against Miami recently he attempted to guard Dwyane Wade during the 4th quarter. Wasn't a great idea.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post"> It seems like you're holding LeBron to a higher standard. While I agree that LeBron isn't a very good defender, he does enough on that end (defensive rebounder, steals, blocks, deflections) to keep him at least average. And he'll make a spectacular play every now and then, like Kobe. From the Laker games I watched, Kobe's defense is just adequate the majority of the time. When he's particularly focused, he can be a suffocating one-on-one defender, but in most of the Laker games I've watched this season he hasn't been that way. For a while, I was in the Dwyane Wade camp. After the last few weeks, LeBron gets my vote. He's been phenomenal. I think he's the most valuable player AND the best player in the league. What's scary is that despite him being so amazing right now, you can see that there's plenty of scope for improvement. I think Nash will win it (10 years from now fans will look back and wonder what the hell we were thinking), and Kobe will get 2nd place in the voting.</div> You really don't understand Kobe Bryant at all with the assessment you just made. Let's put Kobe Bryant in perspective, he's the best scorer and defender on the Laker team. Now before every game the coaches have a film session and point out weaknesses of the opponent. Each player is given a role on what needs to be done for the team to win. After the coaches are done, Kobe spends another 2 hours figuring out what he needs to do on the court to get his team the W. It's not a matter of focus, the man is always focused on the court. It comes down to what his approach has to be for his team to win. Obviously he can't give max effort on both sides of the ball for the entire game, so Kobe picks his spots. He reads and reacts to each situation and then takes care of the offensive load or the defensive load. I'm sure you've heard him in interviews talking about how each game is a different puzzle. So depending on the puzzle in front of him, Kobe allocates his effort accordingly. At the end of a close game, Kobe is always defending the best playmaker for the opposing team. I'm not holding LeBron to a higher standard. I just put him in the same group as Dwyane Wade in regards to the MVP talk. Both are great, efficient offensive players. However, both of them hide on defense and don't give the necessary effort on defense when needed. The Suns don't hide Nash on the defensive end, he matches up with the player guarding him. NTC187: Are you kidding? Kobe Bryant deals with double and triple teams every single game. You cannot name another player in the league who attracts the same amount of attention Kobe gets. Teams simply don't have any faith in Kobe's teammates stepping up and beating them. Empra!15 you're completely underrating the Suns situation. Look at all the offense and talent this team lost in the offseason. They lost their best player, Amare Stoudemire for the entire year. They lost their 3point bomber, QRich in a trade, and they lost Joe Johnson to the Hawks. Despite these major personnel changes the Suns are still going to win the Pacific Division and get over 50 wins this year. Just to point out how impressive this is, the Suns longest losing streak this year has been 3 games, and it only happened once.
Shape! Give me a Suns jersey and let me stand behind the arc. If i dont average 15+, I'll commit suicide. I mean come on! These guys are professionals. Its like at shootaround. They get wide open shots and just score.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Empra!15:</div><div class="quote_post">Shape! Give me a Suns jersey and let me stand behind the arc. If i dont average 15+, I'll commit suicide. I mean come on! These guys are professionals. Its like at shootaround. They get wide open shots and just score.</div> They get wide open looks, setup by Steve Nash correct? His unselfish play translates throughout the Suns team and it results in great team play and a lot of impressive wins.
