I have this sick feeling I can't shake

It's that the Warriors will get the #1 pick in this year's draft. This is the weakest draft since 2000, not one player in the draft gets me excited. So wouldn't it be the perfect time for the basketball gods to give the Warriors the #1 pick? Kwan, how many years has it been since the Warriors have moved up in the draft? I don't think it's happened since '95 when they got Smith, right?

They don't need this pick, there aren't any franchise players in this draft, there's no real difference between the guy that will be #1 and the guy that will be #6-8, Greg Oden (who would be the perfect fit for the Warriors and would have been in this draft if it wasn't for the new CBA rules) won't be in the draft.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think there is no way the Warriors WON'T end up with the pick.

 

Hey, I will take it at this point. I would have no qualms about drafting a guy like Aldrige or Gay

 

That elusive big man shall forever torment us... At least a decent point guard would be nice, but damn we don't even draft those. We keep going for combo guards in the 2nd round. I'm happy with Ellis thus far, but who knows if he's going to be more of a scorer than a playmaker. There's always a huge amount of hype with the new guy.

Aldrige I heard is like a more athletic Channing Frye, not really a true banger.

Rudy Gay I heard is super Dunleavy like in his disappearing acts.

I guess if these guys are Sophmores maybe it's inexperience that's causing these guys to play kind of disappointing. I agree with wtwalker that there might not be the franchise guy we're looking for in this draft.

 

Anyone like Adam Morrison? That guy's a real competitor. The only problem is he going to be a defensive liablity with that foot speed? I really hate those. I mean at least with big shooting threats like Dirk Nowitzki, the guy is at least athletic for his size and can block shots. Plus, with Adam Morrison is he going to be able to post up like he does in college? If he can't post up or outquick guys or he is totally reliant upon his shot to create spacing, we might as well pass up.

If there's an opportunity to land a big man, I say we take it. Patrick O'Bryant, Tiago Splitter, whoever we think is going to be a decent player in terms of physical skills and fundamental skills. Splitter is the only guy I know of that has some real seasoning and can score with either hand. The problem is he's a poor rebounder I heard and he's not much of a scorer in Euroleague due to his streak shot and limited range. He's very Biedrins-like but with a better all around game.

If warrior scouts don't like what they're seeing, maybe it's best to trade the pick and land some other guy and a future pick. Maybe get an Illgauskus or whoever is winding down in their careers to give us points in the paint.

One thing is for sure though. It's probably a good idea to avoid any player that scouts say is like "Larry Bird" or "Charles Barkley" or "Scottie Pippen". That's an immediate jinx right there.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Landing the #1 pick increase the Warriors odds at landing Kevin Garnett. Yesterday a local paper in Minnesota reported KG could be traded this summer. The four teams listed included the Warriors.

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The article mentions a package of Troy Murphy, JRich, and this year's pick.</div>

Dude I'd hit that big red button, look Howie striaght in the face, and scream "Deal!" in a heartbeat. That trade would be awesome.

 

Elite big men can be good for a lot of years. I'd definitely do something like that. I wonder where KG would play though... If he's power forward then we need some kind of post presence at center because Garnett is not really a banger. If we keep Ike in there that might be a little interesting...

C: Ike Diogu (similar to how Nick Collison or Danny Fortson is used at times)
PF: Kevin Garnett (midrange shooting/passing/ballhandling/whatever you need from him)
SF: Dunleavy Jr. (3-point shooting)
SG: Monta Ellis (3-point shooting, dribble penetration, defense)
PG: Baron Davis (3-point shooting, midrange game, dribble penetration


Or we could play Biedrins at center or start Pietrus, but damn everytime I see them it's like their games are so limited because of their rawness.

Or maybe make Ike and Biedrins come off the bench. Make Taft the starter.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Adding KG gives the Warriors a lot of options. He can play any position, so the Warriors could go with a athletic lineup, quick lineup, power lineup, basically whatever Monty can creatively think of.

I like the lineup you listed above, but maybe swap Pietrus for Ellis. Having KG is going to make Pietrus an even better defender because of KG's defensive presence in the post.</div>

Yeah Pietrus would probably be the ideal fit for shooting guard, especially if Baron Davis is on the floor and KG is finding the man with the bounce pass. I like KG's versatility at 5 positions (from center to point guard like Toni Kukoc) and he won't Murphy up the defense. BTW I don't have anything against Murphy, he just wouldn't start for most playoff bound teams. He doesn't have the ability on defense to stop small guards from thinking they can dunk on him or Foyle. It's embarassing. We just need some intimidation and enforcement in the paint and I figure with KG, Biedrins/Taft and Ike you got guys that can make any type of collision with them hurt, and they can alter shots and hold their ground. We need a meanstreak in our big dudes.

 

man....i don't wanna give up J-Rich...i rather give them pietrus+murphy+draft+someonelse besides ellis, davis, jrich

 

According to the guys on NBA Coast to Coast Larry Bird said that he's gonna blow this Pacers team up. If Jermaine O'Neal is available you throw a lot at him too. Give them Ike, Murphy, whomever.. I don't care. He's the exact guy the Warriors need.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">According to the guys on NBA Coast to Coast Larry Bird said that he's gonna blow this Pacers team up. If Jermaine O'Neal is available you throw a lot at him too. Give them Ike, Murphy, whomever.. I don't care. He's the exact guy the Warriors need.</div>

KG and Jermaine O'neil on the same team. That'd be nice.

 

Yeah, ever since Smith, I don't think we ever got a pick higher than our position.

In 1998, we were 4th worst and ended up with 5th. It was Carter and Jamison, so it wasn't the worst thing that can happen though.

In 2000, we were 3rd worst and ended up with 5th (Miller). That draft pick went to Orlando with Webber trade.

In 2001, we were 2rd worst team, and ended up with 5th pick, the worst possibility. We ended up with Richardson, so it turned out to be good.

In 2002, we were tied with worst record with Bulls, and in Yao/Williams draft, we ended up with 3rd pick. We drafted Dunleavy.

Even in Smith trade, we had 5th worst record and we got no. 1 pick. 5th pick was Garnett.

That has been said, I won't mind getting 1st pick. After all, Chicago has the best chance of getting Garnett, because of NY's unrestricted first pick, which they received in Curry trade. If we can get that first pick, we may have much better chance...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">In 2002, we were tied with worst record with Bulls, and in Yao/Williams draft, we ended up with 3rd pick. We drafted Dunleavy.</div>

Oh gawd, I remember that... the look on Steve Francis' face at the draft lotto.... no, the look on St. Jean's face, right when they unveiled his pick it looked like the viens on his forehead started to bulge and sweat juice started squirting off his brow. Dude that was sad.

Dunleavy. Yao. Dunleavy. Yao. Dunleavy. Yao. Dunleavy. Yao.


OH GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think there is no way the Warriors WON'T end up with the pick.</div>

I bet Mullin will inquire on Jermaine and KG. Doubt KG goes anywhere because even losing KG will still bring in the crowds. We have a shot at Jermaine but Walsh/Bird and company are the stingiest GM's in the league. If that falls through we are going to keep the pick which is highly likely IMO.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, ever since Smith, I don't think we ever got a pick higher than our position.

In 1998, we were 4th worst and ended up with 5th. It was Carter and Jamison, so it wasn't the worst thing that can happen though.

In 2000, we were 3rd worst and ended up with 5th (Miller). That draft pick went to Orlando with Webber trade.

In 2001, we were 2rd worst team, and ended up with 5th pick, the worst possibility. We ended up with Richardson, so it turned out to be good.

In 2002, we were tied with worst record with Bulls, and in Yao/Williams draft, we ended up with 3rd pick. We drafted Dunleavy.

Even in Smith trade, we had 5th worst record and we got no. 1 pick. 5th pick was Garnett.

That has been said, I won't mind getting 1st pick. After all, Chicago has the best chance of getting Garnett, because of NY's unrestricted first pick, which they received in Curry trade. If we can get that first pick, we may have much better chance...</div>

Looking back is painful .

Do we still have our 2007 (Greg Oden likely to come out) pick? If not, is it protected? I think we have the Philly pick, too.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jason voorhees:</div><div class="quote_post">Looking back is painful .

Do we still have our 2007 (Greg Oden likely to come out) pick? If not, is it protected? I think we have the Philly pick, too.</div>
The Warriors still have their 2007 pick.

The KG and O'Neal rumors are very interesting, but I'd rather not get my hopes up right now.

I'd assume any trade for either would have to involve either Richardson or Davis, and at this point I'd much rather trade Davis than Richardson. Richardson has a better contract, is less of an injury risk, and still improving. The only quality Davis really has over Ricahrdson is the self-confidence to will his team to a win or pull his team out of an offensive rut.

I'd certainly do Davis, Murphy, and the '06 pick for KG. I'm not sure I'd give up either Davis or Richardson for O'Neal. Maybe Davis, Foyle, and the pick for O'Neal and Croshere (expiring contract).

 

As long as Derek "the liability" Fisher remains active on our roster we will not make the playoffs or be a successful team.

Fisher has cost us probably ten to 12 games this season. Not only with his horrible "can't guard a tree" defense. But with his poor decision making and ball handling skills.

Another reason Fisher cost us games as he is taking up space ...he is truly the W.O.R. S. T. (waste of roster space totally) player on the team. What i am trying to say is, he kills us by being on the floor preventing us from playing a more productive player. Last night Pietrus only received 7 minutes while "Flopper" got 36. Other nights he deprived us of Ellis. I would rather see Bynum out there. In fact, that guy sitting in the 6th row, yeah the guy with the hair, you know, the guy who has one leg shorter than the other, yeah him. I would rather have that guy get 36 minutes. i bet he would be more effective.

The Warriors are going nowhere but back to the lottery with Fisher.

The formula is : Fisher + minutes = massive potential for loss

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogielew:</div><div class="quote_post">As long as Derek "the liability" Fisher remains active on our roster we will not make the playoffs or be a successful team.

The formula is : Fisher + minutes = massive potential for loss</div>

I don't know, he did good in L.A. I just can't understand why he can't do the same on Warriors.....