Too much defense??

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    There's alot of emphasis on defense as far as who we draft or who we pick up as a FA. But I'm beginning to wonder are the rockets TOO concerned with defense?? Look at players like Bowen yes he a great defender but on the offensive side of the ball it's like playing 4 on 5, and yes I know defense wins championships but you can't win the game without putting the ball in the basket.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Blurr#7:</div><div class="quote_post">There's alot of emphasis on defense as far as who we draft or who we pick up as a FA. But I'm beginning to wonder are the rockets TOO concerned with defense?? Look at players like Bowen yes he a great defender but on the offensive side of the ball it's like playing 4 on 5, and yes I know defense wins championships but you can't win the game without putting the ball in the basket.</div>

    Bowen isn't that great a defender, though. He just hustles, but he's not skilled.

    We need skilled players who can play defense over scorers that don't do much else (like Morrison and Redick).
     
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    Derek Anderson and Stromile Swift were brought in last summer to provide more offense, but they haven't worked out. Anderson proved to take away too many shots from Yao and McGrady and his lack of lateral quickness on defense really stuck him to the bench around February. Swift's story we all know, but what I'm getting at is that the team is trying to get more offensive players, but we just haven't "hit the jackpot" yet. When we do, we'll be fine.
     
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    You can never have too much defense...

    Offensively, we're solid simply because we'll have both (hopefully) a healthy Yao and TMac next year...so that's a combined 50 points...throw in Alston, Head and Swift and that's another combined 35 points or so...already thats 85 points between five players, so we're assuming a rotation of 8 can atleast nab you 95 points...

    now, with our defensive capability and mindstate, 95 is more than enough to win...even this season, we only allow 92 or so...if we were more offensive-minded, we'd need atleast 8-10 more points per game because 95 wouldnt cut it...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rocket:</div><div class="quote_post">You can never have too much defense...

    Offensively, we're solid simply because we'll have both (hopefully) a healthy Yao and TMac next year...so that's a combined 50 points...throw in Alston, Head and Swift and that's another combined 35 points or so...already thats 85 points between five players, so we're assuming a rotation of 8 can atleast nab you 95 points...

    now, with our defensive capability and mindstate, 95 is more than enough to win...even this season, we only allow 92 or so...if we were more offensive-minded, we'd need atleast 8-10 more points per game because 95 wouldnt cut it...</div>

    That's 95 points scored, when everyone is healthy. Accounting for injuries (which after this year, we'd be foolish not to consider) that could drop down. If, on the season, the average score is 92 to 90 (for example), that would probably correspond to around 47 or 48 wins, which would clearly be a dissapointment.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Derek Anderson and Stromile Swift were brought in last summer to provide more offense, but they haven't worked out. Anderson proved to take away too many shots from Yao and McGrady and his lack of lateral quickness on defense really stuck him to the bench around February. Swift's story we all know, but what I'm getting at is that the team is trying to get more offensive players, but we just haven't "hit the jackpot" yet. When we do, we'll be fine.</div>
    That's not a fair assement on on DA. He was playin decent while still adjusting to the system, but how can take away shots from a injury prone team average 80pts a game? We needed him to score, and he was still adjusting before he got hurt. Did you watch any of the games?


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rocket:</div><div class="quote_post">You can never have too much defense...

    Offensively, we're solid simply because we'll have both (hopefully) a healthy Yao and TMac next year...so that's a combined 50 points...throw in Alston, Head and Swift and that's another combined 35 points or so...already thats 85 points between five players, so we're assuming a rotation of 8 can atleast nab you 95 points...</div>
    I think we put too much emphasis on defense, and don't run freely enough on offense. I'd like too see us play more loosley. Teams like Dallas simply have more weapons than us, not only that but they outrun us because we refuse to use our young guns.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">That's not a fair assement on on DA. He was playin decent while still adjusting to the system, but how can take away shots from a injury prone team average 80pts a game? We needed him to score, and he was still adjusting before he got hurt. Did you watch any of the games?</div>Gee. Ever since you came to JBB, you've been asking everyone if they saw the games if you disagree with what they're saying. Seriously, it's getting old. Maybe change a punchline or something.

    The guy took 8 shots a game with the team, when he was always at best the second option. Come on, with Yao and McGrady both healthy, Anderson would be the fourth option, but he still managed to attempt 17 shots. When Yao and McGrady were on the court, Anderson would dribble the shotclock down and then try to take his defender one-on-one. Sure, McGrady and Yao still took shots, but when Anderson shot 39.3% from the field, he has no reason to not give the ball up to Yao or TMac instead of creating for himself.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Gee. Ever since you came to JBB, you've been asking everyone if they saw the games if you disagree with what they're saying. Seriously, it's getting old. Maybe change a punchline or something.</div>
    My apology......being in Houston I watch the games faithfully, so when I hear these inaccurate & outrageous statements that you and others make, it makes me wonder how many games have you've watched? It always comes back to that.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">The guy took 8 shots a game with the team, when he was always at best the second option. Come on, with Yao and McGrady both healthy, Anderson would be the fourth option, but he still managed to attempt 17 shots. When Yao and McGrady were on the court, Anderson would dribble the shotclock down and then try to take his defender one-on-one. Sure, McGrady and Yao still took shots, but when Anderson shot 39.3% from the field, he has no reason to not give the ball up to Yao or TMac instead of creating for himself.</div>
    Read what I just wrote above[​IMG] Tmac was hurt in the beginning of the season, and our offense stunk. We had no chemistry and Yao wasn't quite there yet. Anderson was thrown into the role Tmac had, and he was forced to take shots he doesn't normally take. Which explains him takin more than 15 shots. I think you may have caught a few games on TNT and made your conclusion about Anderson dribbling out the clock, because he was never much of a dribble guy on the Rockets. David Wesley was the guy who foolishly jacked up shots and rammed into a pack of defenders with nowhere to go.
     

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