alright boys, draft time....whats your poison this year?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">KG Makes so much money. Here's the Warriors' contracts:

KG makes $18 million, so we'd have to throw in everything but the kitchen sink to land him. If we kept Monta, Beans, JRich, and Baron, and still made it work, that'd be sweet.</div>

Which would never happen dude. The Timberwolves are going to listen to offers but unless something excellent comes their way, their going to hang onto KG. You gotta give up one of JRich or Baron, that's the obvious part of the asking price. Unless pulls a shaq and demands to leave immediately, we aren't going to get him period.

 

yeah this years draft is going to be very interesting for the warriors. i say go big, get rid of foyale and murphy. give biedrins and digou alot of court time so they can reach their full potential. Pietrus is good but we don't really need him with richardson and he is going to want big money after his contract is up. he has proved he can play in the nba, no problem. i say go with a true center like josh boone. somebody with muscle and can beast in the post. he has an nba ready body.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post"> Aldridge? 6-11 so a potential C,but put his stats next to Sheldon W and its no contest. 2" is not a lot,especially given Sheldon's wingspan,but Aldridge is also younger. Aldridge is good,not KG material or even Bosh.</div>

If we somehow win the lottery and get the first pick I'm taking Aldridge. He had a nice shot from what I saw and a quick leaper. Most of the time people exaggerate about player's heights but I'm convinced Aldridge is actually 6'11. He's soft but for what we need, he'd be a HUGE upgrade over Murph.

I like Shelden Williams but that guy can't hold a candle to Aldridge's offensive skills.

 

Man, this draft so far looks like it's going to suck... but maybe we'll get lucky and wind up with a guy who has proven all the critics wrong. Rudy Gay looks like he has a lot of upside, unselfishness and the good attitude (which was why he was #1 overall pick at one time), but he sounds like a soft, wing forward type player than he is a dribble-drive type guard. Plus, at times I'm more convinced we need another bruiser that combines the traits that Sheldon Williams or Emeka Okafor has on defense or a guy that at least has an offensive game like Chris Kaman or Tiago Splitter who can both score with either hand. The only big man prospect I've been happy with is Ike because he can score with either hand and create his own shot, but I'm still impressed with Biedrins and getting Chris Taft as high-risk/high potential type players. The other reason I'm impressed with Ike is because he's the only real prospect we've had that has an offensive and defensive (still developing) game. Inside this draft, I don't see a big guy that will be a force on offense or defense. It's not like we'd get that guy at #9 anyway because he'd be going top three...

Maybe, small forward is an option to look out for since we've got a glut of power forwards and there's no real center in this draft. There's a few interesting swing or wing guys in this draft but they definitely sound like Pietrus or like Dunleavy. Hopefully, a third or fourth time's a charm... Then we can weigh other deals involving Murphy as Biedrins/Ike/Taft can be shuffled into the big positions to see how they work out. If the small forward prospects fall because of poor workouts, or a Danny Granger/Gerald Green-like situation happens, I hope we capitalize on grabbing a guy with tremendous upside.

You know, now that I said that, I'm still actually hoping Rudy Gay falls. I'd take him over Carney because I don't think we need another Jrich or Pietrus. If Rudy Gay is too Dunleavy-like well maybe he can be a more successful version of what Dunleavy was supposed to. Maybe Gay ain't the great ballhandler that Dunleavy is, but maybe his passing, post game, and athleticism will make up for it in gaining some measure of consistency. The question is can Rudy Gay knock down an open midrange shot, listen the coach and the point guard, shoot 80% free throws or finish strong at the rim? If the answer is yes, I'd say draft him!

For those that were all over Marvin Williams last year, take a look at Rudy. He's probably more or less the same guy plus/minus some skills.




BTW Here's a few mock draft sites I've found.

http://www.nbadraft.net/
http://www.draftexpress.com/mock.php?y=2006
http://probasketball.about.com/od/nbadraft...ockdraft061.htm
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Draft/mockdraft.htm
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/nba_draft/200...ft-ar22954.html

 

Here's a site that lists private workouts for draft prospects.

http://www.hoopshype.com/workouts.htm

So far we've worked out Leon Powe.

 

I'd love to see the Warriors to get Rodney Carney, this guy is good. B-Diddy be able to pick between J-Rich or Carney on the fastbreak. I believe Carney has the tools to become a very very talented slasher that can shoot with someone leaving him space. It'd take a year or 2 to groom him but he's pretty good right now. He'll be able to play either swingman spots, and could be a very good NBA player after it's all said and done. That's my 2 cents, hope you like it......

 

Interesting - the Warriors, IMO, have several needs, and a SF slasher is definately one of them. Pietrus is good there but he's been a knuckle head. Dunleavy is okay in his game but to have a Shawn Marion-type slasher dunker would push Baron's assist total through the roof.

 

Gay has both tools and skills,unlike Carney,and plays the full game,unlike Marvin W. Gay however tends to back away from a challenge,play to "not make a mistake" or else is a low passion type. He's not a go-to scorer,a tough guy,yet he's not a point F type either. The good news is he's young.
At #9,he's not a bad risk. There's a strong chance both Gay and Sheldon go before 9. Sheldon should be a no brainer for Houston,though Marcus Williams could help them too.

I don't see Pietrus as a knucklehead,he's a guy who never had a full time role in college/euro/NBA play. He's great on D in a decent system,would be good on offense once we get a decent system. Carney is a bit of a knucklehead. Carney thinks he's Fish,get's in a 3 frenzy...and is not that accurate. He is 1" taller than Pietrus but also 10+ pounds lighter and Pietrus is much stronger. Carney can jam impressively on the break,but won't slash through a defense much.

I'd rather grab Craig Smith with a high rd 2,trim 10/15 lbs off him and turn him into a tough SF....or do a similar thing with Eric Hicks.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">If we somehow win the lottery and get the first pick I'm taking Aldridge. He had a nice shot from what I saw and a quick leaper. Most of the time people exaggerate about player's heights but I'm convinced Aldridge is actually 6'11. He's soft but for what we need, he'd be a HUGE upgrade over Murph.

I like Shelden Williams but that guy can't hold a candle to Aldridge's offensive skills.</div>


As I said....Aldridge is 6-11 may mold into a very good CENTER..and I'd likely take him #1 were I picking first. Hold a candle? BULL. Offense and defense Sheldon had superior numbers in EVERY category "Skills" is what you mastered,what you got right now. Aldridge MAY be ahead in potential,but that's all about guessing he can add what Williams already has.

Heres a breakdown

Sheldon 18.8 pts 10.7 rbd 3.7 blocks (4th) 57.7fg% 180 FTM (10th in NCAA)

LaMarcus 15 pt 9.2 rbd 1.9 blocks (ranked #57) 56.7 fg% 102 FTM (ranks 102)

 

I want Marvin Williams from the Hawks - any chance they want to give him up?

 

I'd be stoked if Rudy Gay fell to number nine -- at 6' 9" and athletic, that would be one hell of an athlete to play SF. He could probably instantly start over MDJ and give us a serious athletic lift. He's about as tall as Adonal Foyle and can handle it, drive it and dunk it like a SG!

 

Is there a trade where we can get a guy from the Atlanta Hawks? I'd take any of their tall guards or small forwards over Dunleavy. I like Dunleavy's all-around game and his flashes of being a unique player, but his results are unimpressive for this team. He can't shoot, he shrinks, and he comes off as a whiner sometimes. It's great he sticks up for Pietrus and shows fans he can be aggressive, but just not impressed by his starting performances...

He can rebound and put up numbers next season, but I don't think it's enough to get us to win.

You know who I would like? Josh Childress. He may be weaker than Dunleavy, but he sure ain't a slow poke or a poor leaper. He's got finesse, he can rebound, he can shoot free throws, he's got Ben Wallace hair, and he's familar with Monty. Childress can also handle the ball, pass, play half court or open court.

 

And Monty would like Childress too. I woldn't mind having him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">You know who I would like? Josh Childress. He may be weaker than Dunleavy, but he sure ain't a slow poke or a poor leaper. He's got finesse, he can rebound, he can shoot free throws, he's got Ben Wallace hair, and he's familar with Monty. Childress can also handle the ball, pass, play half court or open court.</div>

Nice idea. I would definetely take him for just the hair.

 

I'll take him for the hair alone. But how about Marvin Williams? Are the hawks planning to "cultivate" their young prospect or would they consider swapping him?

 

Nah, theres no way they'd swap Marvin Williams. They passed up Chris Paul to get Marvin, they'd be admitting a mistake if they trade him so soon.

 

Even if it was possible Marvin Williams was traded to us, I'm not quite sure Marvin Williams is what we need if we've decided to build on Jason Richardson. Rather than a SF/PF, we should probably look at a tall swing type of player that can add to our struggling perimeter game and can pick up the slack where Jason Richardson is lagging behind. But generally speaking, it's nice to have a swing guy be the most all around guy he can be because that is what is required of a guard. A guard that can't handle the ball, pass, or shoot from deep is generally a small forward (just look at 6'4/6'5 Reuben Patterson or Arizona's Hassan Adams). A guy too small to play power forward in the NBA is a power forward trying to play small forward. We've had our fair share of tweeners, I'd just like somebody who can play small forward both like a guard and a power forward like Jason Richardson is doing (like with Jrich's post up game and his turn around jumper does). I just hope our small forward prospect does not suck so much at handling the ball through traffic or under pressure. For that I think we need a guy who is lighter and quick on his feet sort of like Pietrus is, but can pass and see the floor better sort of like Dunleavy. This guy needs to be a better shooter than both because one sucks incredibly at the foul line and the other can't sink an open jump shot right to his hands. It's pathetic for NBA players to stink that bad when it comes to shooting from the field or at the line.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">As I said....Aldridge is 6-11 may mold into a very good CENTER..and I'd likely take him #1 were I picking first. Hold a candle? BULL. Offense and defense Sheldon had superior numbers in EVERY category "Skills" is what you mastered,what you got right now. Aldridge MAY be ahead in potential,but that's all about guessing he can add what Williams already has.

Heres a breakdown

Sheldon 18.8 pts 10.7 rbd 3.7 blocks (4th) 57.7fg% 180 FTM (10th in NCAA)

LaMarcus 15 pt 9.2 rbd 1.9 blocks (ranked #57) 56.7 fg% 102 FTM (ranks 102)
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The reason I take Shelden is interior defense and rebounding and a good FT %. He plays intense ball and I like him but be serious, he's not going to be a scoring option in the pro's.

Reason is take LeMarcus is that he has athletic mobility Shelden doesn't have. Shelden has some moves but they looked pretty ugly. LaMarcus looked pretty damn smooth out there to me, no stat is gonna change that. I like Williams so I would actually like it if we drafted him but if your going to post stats, you should post their stats in the same years of school. You seriously expect Shelden's offensive game to translate better than Aldridge's in the pro's? I don't.

 

Patrick O'Bryant. Remember that name. He's a raw 7' 19-yr old with a 7-5 wingspan and 9-4 standing reach. Ike measured out at 6-6 1/2' with 7-3 1/2 wingspan and 9-1 standing reach in Chicago for comparison.

We should get him. We had a good shot for him as he was projected around #9, but with good workouts he should be moving up.

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