now that the season has come to an end looking forward to the summer draft although i am more excited about what colangelo would do through trades I figured that including draft and transactions of any kind, toronto should do approx 5 to round out the supposedly "big summer" anyways, here we go again... 1.Sign Ely because he is expandable in charlotte now and price tag is low (nene too expensive) 2. Trade bonner+Woods for Biedrins because mullin loves big men that can shoot 3s and incapable bigmen like woods (see foyle as example ) bonner also has expiring contract which is an "upside" 3. Peterson+toronto's 2nd rounder for Speedy+kirk snyder Why? because peterson's value can't be any higher and he has expiring contract also besides, hornets wanted him couple years ago...now it's a good time to trade him away use speedy as 6th man, which toronto barely has this past few years, and kirk snyder as poorman's raja bell this year is weak draft too, therefore 2nd round is not too useful 4. Sign and trade mike james to seattle and get earl watson and 1st rounder next year the real catch is the 1st rounder next year because id on't think seattle will be good next year which means lottery and supposedly next year's draft is deeper 5. draft foye (the villanova guy) he is basically a young mike james that will listen to coach (because he is a rookie) more leap than mike james too plays two positions result: PG-Rotate between Foye and earl watson SG-snyder (foye can also be here)...use snyder as the "stopper" especially on the perimeter...i think this guy is underrated offensively and defensively SF-Charlie and joey PF-Bosh C-Ely and biedrins 6th man- speedy Note: charlie can play PF sometimes, so can ely and biedrins this team will be pretty fast and atheletic probably won't make playoffs but at least much better than the past 2 years and with more salary space and 2 1st round picks 2007-2008 season is toront's time to shine -------------------------------------------- how this game works: choose 5 of your transactions/drafts in your mind that is logical and please make them as realistic as possible (please don't tell me toronto can trade for jermaine and garnett etc) and please provide reasons why this transaction MIGHT be accepted by the other GM ----------------------------------------- i just figured that by doing this, there will be more spark and hope in toronto's sports landscape since there is no hockey and basketball playoffs
umm noo i really dont like that line-up. This is what i would do: Draft night: Draft; Bargani,Denham Brown, and James White Trade: Bargaini and Eric Williams to Seattle for Luke Ridnour Re-Sign Mike James to a 3 year deal, worth about 15 million. Sign Nazr Mohammad (to a 1-2 year deal) Next year's line-up: Luke/Jose/Mike James Mike James/Mo-Pete Charlie V/Mo-Pete/Joey Bosh/Charlie V Nazr/Pape/Bosh this way: we can have cap-space in 2007, and get the C we need. This off-season, there are not many big C's that can make us instant playoff contenders, so i suggest getting Nazr(who can do some damage himself). Also, it seems as if Seattle favours Watson more than Ridnour, and could use a big guy to suit up next to Wilcox, and it does not get anything better than Bargaini. Luke's a pass-first PG, and would fit in perfectly with the raps, and yeah i have decided i want Mike James to stay just because of the fact that i do agree with him, and i think that he'll keep improving despite his age.
about denham brown- i think the dude has a real chance of being drafted a rap in the second round or the late first round if the raps decide to trade down. first, the raps have a need at that position, plus, colangelo is big on international experience and brown played like a superstar for our national team last summer.
Why would you ever wanna blow up the team like that, theres gonna be no winning that way, its not the NAMES, its the system, you gotta keep the system the same, and just fine tune it, not overhaul it.
I mean really, you should've thought about that before you posted. Only number 1 and 5 are even feasible. The rest require GM's that are beyond retarded and rule changes (can Loren Woods and Claxton even be traded?). Here's my 5: 1. Resign Chris Bosh 2. Draft Brandon Roy, Denham Brown, and another potential-filled scrub 3. Sign Speedy Claxton (Alternatives: Lindsey Hunter, Marcus Banks, Milt Palacio) 4. Sign Reggie Evans (Alternatives: Jackie Butler) 5. Sign Nazr Mohammed (Alternatives: Lorenzen Wright, Tony Battie, Earvin Johnson) If everything goes right, we'd end up with: Claxton / Calderon / Ukic (possible, but unlikely) Peterson / Roy / Brown Villanueva / Graham / Williams Bosh / Evans Mohammed / Sow / Araujo As you can see, I made modest improvements. But I was conservative, because I think a lot of the players in this free agency will get more money than they deserve. I'd rather save up for 2007 or '08. If a reasonable offer for our pick comes along, I'd take it.
We're already athletic enough and most of you just want to get more athletic. Chutney's proposals I like the most. We need to get bigger and more physical from the C spot all the way down to the starting PG. I personally would like to us trade for Ridnour. He's not happy in Seattle because Watson has stole alot of his thunder and has some good size for a PG too. Rebounding and interior defense are two of the areas that hurt us all season long. I'm not saying that Reggie Evans and Nazr are the answer, but the suggestion is definitely headed in the right direction. Also, ball distrubution was horrendous this season too. Another reason why James isn't a true PG. Ridnour would help that immensely. We rushed the offense too quickly this season. We need to be more patient and slow things down. Doing that will also limit the amount of touches for the opposing teams and also help lower the PPG given up by us.
I definitely would prefer Ridnour over Speedy, who I think is more suited as a backup. However, I couldn't think of a scenario that both teams would agree to. Probably because I'm not that creative. If there's a legitimate chance of acquiring Ridnour, though, I'm sure some trade rumours will start circulating. At least then we'll have something to build on.
oh well i admit that i overhauled it (since the line up this year was so horrible...certain players i don't want to see ever again ) anyways...joking aside my main purpose is to stir up some discussions regarding who should toronto sign and draft at this stage etc etc etc reggie evans i like nazr probably will stay with spurs since he already proved that he can start and spurs are not dumb but if seattle is very desparate to part with ridnour i would be surprised i know they don't like him much right now but i still think when it comes to trade they would ask for a rather high price? afterall he was tagged as PG of the future a couple years ago
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Milt Palacio</div> Haha.. What about Alvin Williams, are we going to keep him?
i like the idea of picking up Nazr and Ridnour...get those 2 for me BC and i'll be a happy raptor fan. 1) Sign Bosh to an extention 2) For our starting 5 Sign Wilcox or Nazr I cant think of a 3rd, 4th and 5th.....well actually i can think of to many...so basically i'll summarize it down to: A) Sign and trade Mike James or our 1st round pick or both for 1 of : TJ Ford Luke Ridnour I also like the look of Earl Watson, he could do the job if we cant get TJ Ford or Luke Ridnour. Also what up with Dan Dickau?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post"> A) Sign and trade Mike James or our 1st round pick or both for 1 of : TJ Ford Luke Ridnour</div> TJ Ford would be a pipe dream. After the comeback season he had, he's one of the untouchables in Milwaukee in my opinion. I'd even offer the thought of dealing for Maurice Williams.
maurice is an important piece to milwakee because of how many games he won for them earlier in the season (before he went down with numerous injuries here and there) in a way he is more valuable than TJ ford that been said i believe that since they committed to charlie bell long term and also maurice being important and TJ having such an amazing comeback year...doesn't mean toronto can't get either charlie/maurice away from milwakee as long as the offer is right i don't mind either of them playing for toronto
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hohoyoyoyo:</div><div class="quote_post">maurice is an important piece to milwakee because of how many games he won for them earlier in the season (before he went down with numerous injuries here and there) in a way he is more valuable than TJ ford that been said i believe that since they committed to charlie bell long term and also maurice being important and TJ having such an amazing comeback year...doesn't mean toronto can't get either charlie/maurice away from milwakee as long as the offer is right i don't mind either of them playing for toronto</div> Milwaukee's in the same situation with their PG that they were in with their Centers last year. Last offseason I wanted the Raps to capitalize on it and go after the leftover, who happened to be Zaza Pachulia. I hope, with a new GM, they're more aggressive this time around. That would be a great situation to take advantage of.
yeah i agree with you man i mentioned about zaza last offseason since he is such a good offensive rebounder and toronto is non existent on those 2nd chance points he might not be dominant or allstar but he will definitely help with his aggressive and hustle plays i just want toronto to sign up SOME value players that can contribute in their own respective areas: guards- ridnour (through trade), maurice williams (trade), charlie bell (trade), earl watson (trade), roy (draft), foy (draft), speedy (trade) and the ultimate guy under the radar would be steve blake this guy is underrated defensively and he is a pass first guy forwards/centres-reggie evans (sign), ely (sign), wilcox (sign), stephen hunter (trade?), nazr (sign), radmanovic (sign) NOTE: when i say sign, the price and length of contract has to be right, don't overpay for all of them also, i would have included przibilla and nene on that list too; however nene is too injury prone yet still ask for high price tag, and also przybilla will also be asking a high starting price...therefore i figured they are not in the picture
Some of you guys are overreacting here. It's not a total reconstruction- the foundation we have right now is pretty good. And I think there are better free agents in 2007. To Stay: Andre Barrett Matt Bonner Chris Bosh Jose Calderon Joey Graham Morris Peterson Charlie Villanueva Pape Sow Darrick Martin To Go: Mike James & Araujo - trade for a future 1st round pick and 2nd rounders, and if possible, some cash. Eric Williams Alvin Williams Loren Woods 2006 Draft: 1st Round- Draft Andrea Bargnani because lets face it, the Raptors NEED a center and even if they need to establish a young guy like Bargnani, I think its important the Raps draft him and could easily trade him later on. 2nd Round- Draft Denham Brown and not just because he's a hometown guy, but because he's a hard worker and gives everything he's got on the floor. Look at the game against Washington- proved that he can score under pressure. 2nd Round- Draft Gerry McNamara. So, if we decide to get rid of Bonner and Mike James, we'll have a replacement to shoot those 3's and a decent pointguard. 2007 - Sign Andres Nocioni in free agent market. He's a hard worker and can play the 3 or 4. If we decide not to re-sign Morris Peterson after next season, he could be a good replacement or an even better replacement. However, I do like Morris Peterson and hope he can stay in this organization.
nocioni is PF/SF and he need to get at least 25-30 min a game to be effective i like him too, but i don't see it possible for him to fit in terms of playing time Why? because are you going to eat up bosh and charlie's time? probably not the bargnani guy can be taken but lets face it...he's not worth a top 5 pick next year draft pool will be deeper also...your "to go" list...other than mike james they are orphans in the NBA if you want them to go you got to package them and the only asset toronto has (available for trade) other than mike james is peterson re-signing peterson will be quite costly after next year if he continues to give 15ppg especially committing to bosh to a max contract therefore i think it's best for organization to trade him away while his value is high
I think Morris Peterson is the most respectable Raptor player we have right now. I've never seen a player that's more committed to his team than him. I think the Raps will have enough to sign him and if the Raps can make the playoffs next season, then there's every reason to resign him because you do not want to lose character players. And come on, he's already known as "Mr. Raptor"!
In my opinion Mo must stay. No need to blow up the team, just use our 10-12 million in salary room to sign some quality players, try to sign and trade away Mike James, and lastly trade the pick for some support off the bench or package it with other stuff(future picks, cash, Mike James) in exchange for a PG or C
1. Re-Sign Chris Bosh. The Top Priority on everyone's list, he's the franchise player so we need to keep him, and keep him happy and content, so he wants to play his whole career here in Canada. 2. Sign & Trade Mike James. To Who? Seattle of course, we have a gagillion Luke Ridnour and Earl Watson lovers, so this is a dream come true for them but the sad part is neither of them would be coming over in my theory. Sign James to a 20 Million Three Year Deal around 6-7 Million each year, and then ship to Seattle for Danny Fortson [Someone who brings toughness and wants out of seattle, not to mention he can play center] and a draft pick in next years draft. 3. Trade Joey Graham. He was supposed to be the NBA ready one, not Charlie, but he wasnt and he never got too hot in the season, near the end he did alright but we should trade him while his value is high. To Who? Philadelphia, they could use another young guy, him and Iggy at the wing spots would be a nice duo for the future. In Return Who Do We Get? Johnny Salmons and Willie Green, Willie can play PG while he can score and he uses less shots than Mike James and is much younger, Johnny Salmons? The kid can shoot, he's never been presented with a good oppurtunity to succeed, in Toronto expectations wont be high so he wont feel pressure and to our surprise could do more than Joey and give us a Second Ball Handler off the bench. 4. Draft Shelden Williams. 5, 6, 7, or wherever our pick ends up this guy wont be around past the 10th pick. He can play center in the NCAA, he's not scared of no body and has a decent offensive skill set and has pretty good handles for a big man. Playing Center while being listed at a generous 6'10" wont be a stretch for this guy, he's going to be a big time player and if we pass on him we'll regret, not to mention the fact that we need a center more than we do a wing player. 5. Sign Leandro Barbosa/Trade For Complementery Players and Send Rafael Araujo to the D-League. 'Hoffa' isnt going to improve by sitting on the end of the bench and racking up fouls every time we play against Shaq. Sending him to the D-League could do him some good, Pape Sow tore[sp?] it up down there when he was there and Hoffa could do the same. The Complementery players I mean are like low key players like Jared Jeffries, Lorenzen Wright, Voshon Lenard, Charlie Bell and Chuck Hayes. Jeffries can defend and is a versatile guy, he can play every thing but PG and C he would be a great bench guy, Wright just gives us a reliable big man with NBA experience, Voshon can hit the outside J and was a good player in his days as a raptor, and Chuck Hayes is a ferocious rebounder, a shorter Pape Sow with more co-ordination would be a bonus. Charlie Bell would be a nice pick up, he can do everything good nothing amazing though, he's a nice player and a solid one at that. Bonner, Woods and Sow could be used as trade bait. Leandro will be a good player, he can pass decently and having another scorer wouldnt hurt, so atleast we'd have options on offense. Getting him wont be hard, if we go over the cap MLE could get him. 2006-2007 Team Lineup: PG - Leandro Barbosa/Jose Calderon/Willie Green SG - Mo Peterson/Voshon Lenard/Charlie Bell SF - Charlie Villanueva/Jared Jeffries/John Salmons PF - Chris Bosh/Chuck Hayes/Danny Fortson C- Shelden Williams/Lorenzen Wright/Pape Sow
