<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who else was impressed by Vick's 0 passing TD/3 Interception/13.0 QB rating game last night? Yeah, he scored two rushing TDs... But those are hardly "Star QB" numbers. (Who will be the first Falcons fan to chime in with "A win's a win?")</div> I know I wasn't impressed at all. Dunn had a great night and the defense played well, so I'm happy we won despite Vick's brutal performance. It was out of the norm for him to play that badly, and we did win so I'm not going to complain too much. A win is a win! </div> Is it out of the norm for Michael Vick to play so badly? vs Saints 11-23-112-47.8-1-1 58.6 8-51-6.4-0 vs Jets 11-26-116-42.3-0-3 16.3 9-18-2.0-2 Michael Vick has only completed more than 12 passes in one game and that was when he completed 15 against the Bills even though he has thrown at least 19 passes in all his games except two and one of those he didn't play. He's only completing 52.4 % of his passes and has a QB rating of 63.0. Michael Vick has 11 tds to 14 interceptions, but I'm sure that somehow all these stats are crap and Michael Vick should be named MVP at the end of the season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who else was impressed by Vick's 0 passing TD/3 Interception/13.0 QB rating game last night? Yeah, he scored two rushing TDs... But those are hardly "Star QB" numbers. (Who will be the first Falcons fan to chime in with "A win's a win?")</div> I know I wasn't impressed at all. Dunn had a great night and the defense played well, so I'm happy we won despite Vick's brutal performance. It was out of the norm for him to play that badly, and we did win so I'm not going to complain too much. A win is a win! </div> Is it out of the norm for Michael Vick to play so badly? vs Saints 11-23-112-47.8-1-1 58.6 8-51-6.4-0 vs Jets 11-26-116-42.3-0-3 16.3 9-18-2.0-2 Michael Vick has only completed more than 12 passes in one game and that was when he completed 15 against the Bills even though he has thrown at least 19 passes in all his games except two and one of those he didn't play. He's only completing 52.4 % of his passes and has a QB rating of 63.0. Michael Vick has 11 tds to 14 interceptions, but I'm sure that somehow all these stats are crap and Michael Vick should be named MVP at the end of the season.</div> But Mike Vick wins games
We didn;t say he wins games but for some reason the Falcons wins games when he is playing. And there are statistics to prove it!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wannab Favre)</div><div class='quotemain'>We didn;t say he wins games but for some reason the Falcons wins games when he is playing. And there are statistics to prove it!</div> Not a large enough sample space to prove causation. Secondly you cant compare under same circumstances of victories. Different players. Different years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Public schools don't. Well theres a code of conduct as to what can and can't be wore but normal jeans and a shirt is fine. As for job it depends where. Sometimes yes. Sometimes know. If I were a basketball player and it really doesn't depend on me having to wear a suit like it would if I were a lawyer then I can see why their so ticked off. Like I said before though for 10 minutes it wouldn't kill me. So I can see the reason why they would complain but I can also see the reason why people are saying "Who Cares" Both sides have an arguement....</div> The vast majority of professional jobs have some sort of requirements for what you wear. Not all of them require suits and ties, but most require at least business casual. I think that any employer who has contractors or employees who are very public figures has every right to want them to look like professionals. And as a side point, a lawyer's job does not depend on them wearing a suit. They can do just as good of a job without the suit, but we know that a lawyer who is wearing a suit is a bit more professional at his job.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who else was impressed by Vick's 0 passing TD/3 Interception/13.0 QB rating game last night? Yeah, he scored two rushing TDs... But those are hardly "Star QB" numbers. (Who will be the first Falcons fan to chime in with "A win's a win?")</div> I know I wasn't impressed at all. Dunn had a great night and the defense played well, so I'm happy we won despite Vick's brutal performance. It was out of the norm for him to play that badly, and we did win so I'm not going to complain too much. A win is a win! </div> Is it out of the norm for Michael Vick to play so badly? vs Saints 11-23-112-47.8-1-1 58.6 8-51-6.4-0 vs Jets 11-26-116-42.3-0-3 16.3 9-18-2.0-2 Michael Vick has only completed more than 12 passes in one game and that was when he completed 15 against the Bills even though he has thrown at least 19 passes in all his games except two and one of those he didn't play. He's only completing 52.4 % of his passes and has a QB rating of 63.0. Michael Vick has 11 tds to 14 interceptions, but I'm sure that somehow all these stats are crap and Michael Vick should be named MVP at the end of the season.</div> I will admitt Mike Vick has dissapointed me. I thought this would be the year he posted decent passing numbers but it's just not to be. He's been awful. The team keeps winning though. It's not because of Mike Vick but maybe he makes the team better. I think the vast majority of it is because defensive coordinators worry to much about Mike Vick's running and forget about the Crumplers in the redzone and the Dunns and Ducketts. The defense is very good as well and might be why Vick looks good. The team seems to play better with Vick for some reason. Vick is kind of like a decoy because of his speed at QB.
I agree, he is a terrible passer. But his ability to run so well gets defenses confused. They just break down after he starts running. Having a QB that can run so well really changes the gameplan for the D. I think its stupid when people say they should put him at RB or WR, because he completely changes the game at QB. Until the Falcons start losing games I think everyone should stop questioning his abilities. But just imagine if he could actually pass the ball accurately, they would be unstoppable.
[quote name='Wannab Favre']We didn;t say he wins games but for some reason the Falcons wins games when he is playing. And there are statistics to prove it![/quote] With that thinking, Dilfer is one of the best QBs ever. In fact, the Falcons have made the Superbowl without Vick, so does that mean Chris Chandler (or whoever it was) is better than Vick? Ultimately, Vick is a game-breaking weapon, a decent QB, and a poor passer. [quote name='porky88'][quote name='favre4mvp'][quote name='porky88']I must say I wouldn' want someone telling me what to wear. [/quote] Then you probably havent ever been to school or havent ever had a job. They require you to dress a certain way at both places... Its just the way of life.[/quote] Public schools don't. Well theres a code of conduct as to what can and can't be wore but normal jeans and a shirt is fine. [/quote] So then there IS a code. A code is a code, whether it hampers your style or not. [quote name='porky88']If I were a basketball player and it really doesn't depend on me having to wear a suit like it would if I were a lawyer then I can see why their so ticked off. [/quote] Porky, I know you said it wouldn't kill you to wear a suit for 10 minutes, so you aren't one-sided on this, but I have basically heard this above quote before. For people that are against the dress code to say this, however, is kind of funny. If players in the public eye do not have to wear suits, why should lawyers?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'>Porky, I know you said it wouldn't kill you to wear a suit for 10 minutes, so you aren't one-sided on this, but I have basically heard this above quote before. For people that are against the dress code to say this, however, is kind of funny. If players in the public eye do not have to wear suits, why should lawyers?</div> ehhh lawyers was just an example. Their are just certain jobs that require a dress code. Granted the basketball players work clothes is the shorts and jersey not a suit. The suit is established for the "publics eye" When a kid commits a crime or does anything wrong the parents blame whoever the kid remodels and say he influenced him to commit such actions. I find that a load of crap. I think making athletes in sports to wear a suit is just another step into patching those types of things up. It has nothing to do with the actual sport. Like someone said in this thread would you want your kid dressing like he's going to rob a seven eleven. Well theirs only one person to blame for that and it's not Allen Iverson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'>Porky, I know you said it wouldn't kill you to wear a suit for 10 minutes, so you aren't one-sided on this, but I have basically heard this above quote before. For people that are against the dress code to say this, however, is kind of funny. If players in the public eye do not have to wear suits, why should lawyers?</div> ehhh lawyers was just an example. Their are just certain jobs that require a dress code. Granted the basketball players work clothes is the shorts and jersey not a suit. The suit is established for the "publics eye" When a kid commits a crime or does anything wrong the parents blame whoever the kid remodels and say he influenced him to commit such actions. I find that a load of crap. I think making athletes in sports to wear a suit is just another step into patching those types of things up. It has nothing to do with the actual sport. Like someone said in this thread would you want your kid dressing like he's going to rob a seven eleven. Well theirs only one person to blame for that and it's not Allen Iverson.</div> True to an extent. I think to say that the worlds problems are caused by how a small group of people dress is over-doing it. However, if Allen Iverson can "take one for the team", maybe there's one less excuse out there and maybe the real problem gets addressed. Maybe not, but at least we are closer, right? I just threw the lawyer thing out there for one reason, and that is to think about why lawyers really have to wear a suit. I hope everyone gives it some thought. I have a dress code here at work too. Most days, I could do just as good of work in my scooby-dos, but I don't have that choice. Why? I can think of two reasons. One, it helps put me in the midset that I am a professional. A professional appearance may or may not translate to a professional job, but that is one. The other is that customers etc. may be in the office. They don't want to trust their job to a guy that does work in his scoobies. Why not? I can obviously do the job. Professional attire is just what the general population wants to see. A basketball player doesn't play any differently because he wears a suit off the bus either. But the league is a business now, and there are the same customers that pay the league and players that do not want to see Allen in his flash anymore than they want to see me in my draft. They put their money down to match up their name with a player or a league and expect the image to look how they want. Bottom line, the person that pays the paycheck decides how you dress in most lines of work. If Allen or anyone else wants to make rap or hip-hop records for a living so he can wear the clothes he wants, he has that choice. Sorry...turned into a barber shop rant. Out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (favre4mvp)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hell, I'd play ball in a freaking chicken suit.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (favre4mvp)</div><div class='quotemain'>Here ya go...</div> Holy Sh**! Is this; a) an incredible lack of self respect A desperate cry for attention c) both d) How would I know what this is. I'm not Sigmund Freud.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry...turned into a barber shop rant. Out.</div> So are you Ryan Seacrest all of a sudden or Jim Rome? LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'>If players in the public eye do not have to wear suits, why should lawyers?</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>ehhh lawyers was just an example.</div> Have you guys never heard of law suits??? :cheesey:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'> Sorry...turned into a barber shop rant. Out.</div> So are you Ryan Seacrest all of a sudden or Jim Rome? LOL</div> LOL. The story was just big.....friggin HUGE. Hopefully, I'm not that annoying, and I know I'm not that much of a pretty boy. Put me somewhere in between I guess.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Have you guys never heard of law suits??? :cheesey:</div> This never happened. :cheesey:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Have you guys never heard of law suits??? :cheesey:</div> This never happened. :cheesey:</div> Are you angry enough to litigate?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The vast majority of professional jobs have some sort of requirements for what you wear. Not all of them require suits and ties, but most require at least business casual.</div> And it's not just what you "wear," either. Most jobs have rules about "visible tattoos" and "nose rings" and "eyebrow rings" and "tongue piercings" and any number of other things, too... On another note, Vick is a TERRIBLE QB, even if he does win games. I'm still pissed off that he made it to the Pro Bowl last year over Favre... Complete JOKE! (Insert "Favre Made A Deal" quote from BF1 here...)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>(Insert "Favre Made A Deal" quote from BF1 here...)</div> He doesn't need help writing his own material, but I would assume it would be something similar to a deal with the devil trumps a deal with Strahan.
