I think with the season he just had, it might be time to trade Mo Pete. His value will never be higher, so we might be able to fill some holes with him. Don't get me wrong, I think that Mo is a great player and one of our better defensive players, but I think that the need of a center and rebounding is more glaring. So.... Utah Trade Breakdown Outgoing Carlos Boozer 6-9 PF from Duke 16.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 31.1 minutes CJ Miles 6-6 SG from Skyline (HS) 3.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 9.3 minutes Incoming Morris Peterson 6-7 SG from Michigan State 16.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 38.3 minutes Eric Williams 6-8 SF from Providence 3.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 12.7 minutes Joey Graham 6-7 SF from Oklahoma State 6.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 19.8 minutes Change in team outlook: +6.9 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and +0.2 apg. Toronto Trade Breakdown Outgoing Morris Peterson 6-7 SG from Michigan State 16.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 38.3 minutes Eric Williams 6-8 SF from Providence 3.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 12.7 minutes Joey Graham 6-7 SF from Oklahoma State 6.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 19.8 minutes Incoming Carlos Boozer 6-9 PF from Duke 16.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 31.1 minutes CJ Miles 6-6 SG from Skyline (HS) 3.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 9.3 minutes Change in team outlook: -6.9 ppg, +0.8 rpg, and -0.2 apg. The salaries work out. Boozer could fill in at center. We could also keep Joey G out of the trade, and instead swap draft picks, and draft JJ Redick to eventually play the 2. Any thoughts?
I like Morris Peterson right now. If we trade him, another puzzle piece is thrown away and we do NOT want to destroy the chemistry the team has now. Please stop with trade scenarios involving key guys. I mean, Boozer in return? Come on, when was the last time this guy produced decent numbers consistently?
As he lacks explosive athleticism, Boozer's just able to hold his own at the 4 position. There's no way he would be able to mann the center spot. Plus I don't want to have anything to do with that contract. And spyware pretty much summed up my opinion on trading Mo-Pete. I know buy low-sell high is a great business model. But at some point you're going to have to try and build some consistency and chemistry. Just look at the Pistons and Spurs.
Boozer played well, getting ~20 points, 9 rebounds consistently before the season ended. I wouldn't mind having Boozer here but I'm doubtful that it would work out with Bosh here already. Neither would I want to draft Redick. He's Trajan Langdon all over again. We need MoPete for his defense and he's just becoming more consistent now. He's a bargain at 4.5 million a year.
Boozer? Where is he going to play? The dude is barely 6'8. And talk about injuries the last three seasons. He's listed 6'9.. And his shoes probaby give him about an inch and something
ok....finally somebody agree with me here that peterson's stock can't get any higher and that he should be traded i am not saying he is a bad player or anything just that he's definitely NOT the "piece" you want on your team therefore, trading him away now might be the best time he is always the type of player that teases you very awful in 1st half of the year with inconsistency then goes on fire in 2nd half, especially when star players are down i wouldn't trade for boozer though...his contract is quite long as a rebuilding team you want potential players (draft picks or young players) and expiring contracts via trades peterson for JR smith and draft pick then sign speedy in offseason (last time i read he is unrestricted) use that draft pick for a front court player in case graham doesn't pan out and JR just had his worst year, he can only get better it's a perfect scenario for buy low (JR) and sell high (peterson) that been said...if his attitude still is awful, then no deal but i hope JR learned his lesson
You got the buy low part right, but you're not selling high enough. I still don't understand why Mo-Pete can't be a piece of this team going into the future.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hohoyoyoyo:</div><div class="quote_post">ok....finally somebody agree with me here that peterson's stock can't get any higher and that he should be traded i am not saying he is a bad player or anything just that he's definitely NOT the "piece" you want on your team therefore, trading him away now might be the best time he is always the type of player that teases you very awful in 1st half of the year with inconsistency then goes on fire in 2nd half, especially when star players are down i wouldn't trade for boozer though...his contract is quite long as a rebuilding team you want potential players (draft picks or young players) and expiring contracts via trades peterson for JR smith and draft pick then sign speedy in offseason (last time i read he is unrestricted) use that draft pick for a front court player in case graham doesn't pan out and JR just had his worst year, he can only get better it's a perfect scenario for buy low (JR) and sell high (peterson) that been said...if his attitude still is awful, then no deal but i hope JR learned his lesson</div> Ok, you're saying JR Smith is more of the "piece" of the puzzle than Peterson? First of all, the dude barely played any games this season. Peterson is our main defensive player on this team. What is so special about JR Smith? What does he bring to the table that makes him more of a piece than Peterson? Peterson's stock might be high right now, but I don't think you can get anyone in return that will have a higher value, unless it is a package deal. Anything else will be lower than Peterson's own trade value and why would the Raptors want to do that? Please regard the most important point - chemistry.
i see JR as a more atheletic version of peterson years to come i am not saying he is better right now but he will be early in their careers they are all very inconsistent and like i said before, peterson is STILL inconsistent just that in 2nd half for the past 2 years he turned the gear on mostly because there is nobody else on the toronto team (bosh injured this year, and that the team sucks) like i said, there would be NO DEAL if JR won't change his attitude, and there is NO DEAL is toronto doesn't get a draft pick in addition to getting JR hornets are desparate for a shooter, peterson is the main they would want it's a win win situation the way i see it if toronto can get JR AND hornets' first round pick, which is also lottery like i said...toronto will be winner of the trade if they draft a fine player that can give them 12-15 ppg, and JR can contribute 13-15 ppg (in couple years that is) and i don't think it's too much to ask for out of either of the players (thinking Foye if the trade did go through with hornets' pick) 2 is better than 1 not to mention you save loads of money, as peterson's contract will expire in a year and there should be a pretty long term contract with big raise NBA is like stock market, you have to sell high and buy low, and there is always a risk for that like look at what colangelo did on the joe johnson trade, he got 2 first round picks AND diaw (who has pretty much similar stock to JR is now a year ago) and look at diaw right now i hope colangelo pulls a similar deal, then that would be pretty great
I think that would be a great deal for Toronto, getting JR Smith and a first. Since Hornets before wanted Morris Peterson, i don't see why not? Mo Pete is an expiring contract in the next season and will probably want a lot more money. I believe some coaches/players can be influential to JR Smith than when he was in New Orleans.
I just don't see this happening. Peterson is not worth a first round lottery + JR. And in terms of the Joe Johnson deal...that was Joe Johnson. Joe > Peterson
yeah...exactly joe is better than peterson; therefore he is worth 2 draft picks+diaw+cash peterson is a sell high now for a buy low JR+first rounder hornets wanted peterson couple years ago and they still need his outside shooting besides, i think hornets is in the stage of adding veterans than more rookies, as PJ brown will retire in a year...they need somebody to have that veteran presence...and peterson is a veteran as this will be his 6-7th season peterson will do well with chris paul feeding him the ball as well if not getting JR+1st rounder then consolation would be JR+kirk synder (atheletic and good perimeter defender that toronto lacks) again, saves you money and think big of the 2007 strong free agent list also toronto don't have to worry about long term contracts they would have to sign with peterson due to the strong free agent list in 2007, peterson's value would go down, and will be harder to trade (unless he become allstar in 2006, which won't be the case)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hohoyoyoyo:</div><div class="quote_post"> peterson for JR smith and draft pick then sign speedy in offseason (last time i read he is unrestricted) </div> You talk about MoPete's inconsistency but you want us to sign Speedy? Speedy is getting 3.6 million right now, so he will likely command 4.5-5 million for next season. Not worth it for a player that shoots a career 40% from the field for his career, 20% from three point line and close to a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio last year. Talk about buying low and selling high. We would be buying high and selling low with Claxton.
he can be attained at 3-4 million if negotiated right the reason he got that 3.6 million was because his value was high 2 years ago and he has injury filled season for the past year i didn't ask him to be starter anyways i just think he will be better than alvin who is basically useless and should retire, calderon who should go to NBDL for a year or two
There's no way he will sign for 3-4 million a year. Especially since he is probably looking for a long-term contract. Now if we trade MoPete and lose James to free agency, where will we get outside shooting from? Free agency? We're going to end up paying a lot more than what we're paying MoPete right now (4.5) for a decent shooter or we will have to deal our draft pick or one of our young guys. Alvin isn't even in the equation anymore. He will most likely be released or bought out.
I want absolutely nothing to do with JR Smith. He's got the ability to be a similar player to Mo-Pete. And he's got the potential to be even better. But in terms of work ethic and teamwork, he's the exact opposite of Peterson. We'd be trading one of our team's leaders, a player that isn't afraid to take on the other team's best offensive player, for a player that needs to be babied, a fringe player that still thinks he's a superstar and is allergic to defense. I can't believe Mo-Pete's being so undervalued here. He's a legitimate piece of the puzzle heading into the future.
Like I said, this isn't a total rebuilding year. We have the right guys already, just a few more are needed. Take away the 1-15 start and we're in the postseason with what we have now. Why would we want to change that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">I want absolutely nothing to do with JR Smith. He's got the ability to be a similar player to Mo-Pete. And he's got the potential to be even better. But in terms of work ethic and teamwork, he's the exact opposite of Peterson. We'd be trading one of our team's leaders, a player that isn't afraid to take on the other team's best offensive player, for a player that needs to be babied, a fringe player that still thinks he's a superstar and is allergic to defense. I can't believe Mo-Pete's being so undervalued here. He's a legitimate piece of the puzzle heading into the future.</div> i believe i mentioned on previous posts that if he is not committed to playing hard, then NO TRADE peterson is ok player, i see him avg 16ppg at most in his career but it seems like toronto fans treat him like superstar you guys need to understand the fact that he look so "good" right now because the team is so damn awful just look at mike james and peterson is not an "excellent defender" as i have read from some people on this forum....he is above avg AT BEST and "best defender on the team" doesn't really mean anything unless you are in san antonio but of course, he seems like defensive player of the year in toronto because toronto has no defence at all, consistently creating career highs/NBA highs/season highs/franchise highs for opponents anyways, i am just posting on a pure business perspective see...the thing is peterson is that his contract expires in 2007 and that's the year lots of good free agents will be available why not trade him now? (don't forget toronto also has to sign bosh to a max to keep him...which is pretty much huge chunk of the money toronto saved from jalen rose trade) making toronto limited for offseason 2007 save the money to do something big in 2007, and get draft picks or young players like JR (i repeat, doesn't HAVE to be JR, and absolutely no deal if JR still slacks and have that awful attitude with him) while peterson's value is high
