whats happening to phoenix. we had such a great season even with the loss of richardson and johnson and the missing stoudamire all season. we still manage to prove ourselves time and time against bigger and so called better teams. why are we choking now against a 7th seeded lakers side. im really disapointed and confused. the season looked so promising to see them go out first game would be huge disapointment. and i think the challenge of winning next 3 games straight is just to tuff for suns with the poor form they are carrying at the moment. also can someone explain why shawn marion cant preform in playoffs. i reckon the man is a champion but hes probally the most dissapointing playoffs player in the league. u see all the all stars step there game up to the next lvl in playoffs where shawn marion seems to take a step backwards y? y does he choke when playoffs come around when we need him the most especially as we are a small side and missing amare
Im puzzled just as you are to why they are just coming up short. For sure its all mental and playing in LA with the agressive crowd sure isnt helping them at all. Lets hope they pull through on Tuesday....
the suns...despite its great regular season without amare...has exposed a couple problems, especially in the last 30 games without kurt they are soft, no inside presence/defence and when teams start to play physical and pound inside aggressively...they just suddenly stopped playing what they do best...the running game notice there are barely fastbreaks more like half court offence i don't like lakers, and i hate the referees in LA BUT phil clearly outcoached d'antoni marion was outplayed by odom phoenix's offensive rebounds were non existent and those were enough for upset material
ur points are spot on when i think bout what uve said its just really disapointing to see such a great season even with loss of 2 stars and many many doubters about the suns ability to win. and then see them falling apart in finals just disapointing and im sure all suns fans will agree. just means we gotta wait another year before a real good chance at the championship is reality
hohoyoyoyo....Jackson out-coached D'Antoni? Are you crazy? It's not the coach's fault his players got injured, and that their heads are all messed up. He tells them to shoot, and no one wants to take a shot. Tim Thomas, Steve Nash, Raja Bell and Boris Diaw are the only ones playing anything like they did in the regular season. Lamar Odom is way bigger than Marion, and Kwame towers over Diaw. How are they supposed to defend them? In fact, with all the trapping and double teams in Game 4, D'Antoni did an amazing job trying to make up the difference. Suns played great D, just got some bad breaks. D'Antoni is easily holding his own against Jackson.
After the Suns win Game 5, they'll get their confidence back, and they WILL beat the Lakers in 7 games! If you are a true fan, you will believe in your team no matter what. Look what the Red Sox did to the Yankees when they won the World Series. It's not over till it's over! Come on Suns fans, let me hear from you!!!
ur right i should and i do i hope so much they win game 5 ill be sitting on edge my seat listening hoping but it just doesnt look good atm and there form is down but i reckon with some stirn words from d'antoni they can pull thru
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PhxSunsFan4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">and that their heads are all messed up. He tells them to shoot, and no one wants to take a shot. ...Lamar Odom is way bigger than Marion, and Kwame towers over Diaw. How are they supposed to defend them? </div> Pho had some tough breaks losing their major players. How is.. "their heads are all messed up....no one wants to take a shot" even a relevant statement? I thought you're a sun's fan? Now you say their heads are messed up? I think I've seen more idiotic comments from you than I've seen in all my past experiences with this forum. If you're refering to the fact tht only Nash did well and no one else really stepped up, welcome to the NBA, that was probably one of the the game plans for LA. True, Lamar Odom is bigger than Marion, and Kwame towers over Diaw, hence why everyone thinks the Sun's weakness is the lack of inside presence, and anyone that knows an ounce about basketball probably can see this, it's been pounded to death, the Suns' don't have inside presence. Yet, you are somehow able to turn a good insight into a dumb statement. Ironically, by saying "how are they supposed to defend them?" you are conceiding that LA's inside presence is beating the Suns.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PhxSunsFan4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">hohoyoyoyo....Jackson out-coached D'Antoni? Are you crazy? It's not the coach's fault his players got injured, and that their heads are all messed up. He tells them to shoot, and no one wants to take a shot. Tim Thomas, Steve Nash, Raja Bell and Boris Diaw are the only ones playing anything like they did in the regular season. Lamar Odom is way bigger than Marion, and Kwame towers over Diaw. How are they supposed to defend them? In fact, with all the trapping and double teams in Game 4, D'Antoni did an amazing job trying to make up the difference. Suns played great D, just got some bad breaks. D'Antoni is easily holding his own against Jackson.</div> ok i respect the fact that you are phoenixfans for life but hey...look at me...i am a phoenix fan before the moment i was born because my initial is PH i hate phil with a passion but i still give him credit...why? well...based on my basketball experience AND hubie brown, one of my favourite coaches although i think he should just retire and play with his grandchildren...d'antoni should have double teamed you know who during the jumpball he didn't result: the game winning shot after penetration since he realized he is not double teamed until he started to penetrate into the lane once he get it going and gave it a release, i know it's over i don't like lakers...i seriously don't and i love phoenix suns but there are certain things you got to realize before you say it you got to back your statements up apparently most of your comments are personal attacks why bother just sit back and hopefully d'antoni will outcoach phil and marion become the old marion (so far in the series, lamar odom looks like marion and vice versa) raja bell...i won't expect much from him since he has to guard public enemy #1 every game day...that's his job, so far i would say he did solid Diaw...be more aggressive, draw fouls, and his chance to shine will come tim thomas shouldn't settle for jumpers when smush guard him in the paint...it was a mismatch and he should have taken it straight to the basket those were invisible mistakes that tim did notice the lakers are pounding the ball right into marion most of the series to get him to foul trouble why? because without marion...phoenix can't win even if nash scores 50+ anyways...hopefully phoenix can have a great comeback
It's a bad match up for the Suns without Amare and Kurt available. It's completely different series if those two were playing. In the playoffs a half-court offense is always going to beat a perimeter one in a 7 game series. The Lakers are taking advantage of Phoenix's weakness and attacking them in the paint and slowing the game down. The Suns don't have the players to make adjustments in this series and didn't count on the Lakers completely altering their style of play from the regular season. It's been an amazing series and every game has come down to the wire. The Suns put themselves in a position to win each time despite their two best post players available. You can't ask for much more.
The Suns will win the next game and the Lakers will start to feel a little pressure. They are a proud and talented team and will not lose 4 game to 1 to the Lakers who happen to finally be playing their best ball of the year. Don't underestimate D'Antonio and Coangelo, whom are a good match up for Jackson. This is no ordinary 3-1 series. Phoenix will not quit. And LA will not quit trying. The series will go at least two more games, and if it does look out.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">hohoyoyoyo....Jackson out-coached D'Antoni? Are you crazy? It's not the coach's fault his players got injured, and that their heads are all messed up. He tells them to shoot, and no one wants to take a shot. Tim Thomas, Steve Nash, Raja Bell and Boris Diaw are the only ones playing anything like they did in the regular season. Lamar Odom is way bigger than Marion, and Kwame towers over Diaw. How are they supposed to defend them? In fact, with all the trapping and double teams in Game 4, D'Antoni did an amazing job trying to make up the difference. Suns played great D, just got some bad breaks. D'Antoni is easily holding his own against Jackson</div> Your right. Barely. Game 4 D'Antoni outcoached Phil Jackson, making key adjustments while Phil stuck with his game plan. The reason that everyone is saying Phil is outcoaching D'Antoni for the series however, is BECAUSE OF THAT GAME PLAN. Phil didn't make some minor adjustments coming into this series, he reorganized the ENTIRE offense and defense. Over Night. For the first 3 games all D'Antoni said was..."RUN!".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bassy_a_sun:</div><div class="quote_post">whats happening to phoenix. we had such a great season even with the loss of richardson and johnson and the missing stoudamire all season. we still manage to prove ourselves time and time against bigger and so called better teams. why are we choking now against a 7th seeded lakers side. im really disapointed and confused. the season looked so promising to see them go out first game would be huge disapointment. and i think the challenge of winning next 3 games straight is just to tuff for suns with the poor form they are carrying at the moment. also can someone explain why shawn marion cant preform in playoffs. i reckon the man is a champion but hes probally the most dissapointing playoffs player in the league. u see all the all stars step there game up to the next lvl in playoffs where shawn marion seems to take a step backwards y? y does he choke when playoffs come around when we need him the most especially as we are a small side and missing amare</div> Alright, first off Shawn Marion has tonzzz of pressure on him. I understand that he hasn't performed the best in the playoffs but in game 4 he had a double double with 20 pts 12 rbnds. You can't ask much more from him. He has to gaurd Lamar Odom which has stepped his game up, so Marion is playing both offense and defense unlike a lot of the Suns players. I"m not sure whats going on with the Suns. Eddie House can't hit a shot. Barbosa can't do anything. I mean there bench can't even put the ball in the hoop. When I was watching the Suns the other day I didn't even recognize them as the same team. They don't play like they did in the regular season or even last year in the playoffs. I know that we don't have Amare anymore but they can't use that as an excuse. We have 2 All-Stars on our team and a back to back MVP (The best Point Guard in the league). They have had to prove themselves all year long. And now they fall apart in the playoffs. I don't get it. They aren't playing with any heart. They are playing like they are the 7th seed. If they come out in game 5 with heart and confidence, I guarantee a game 5 win and possibly coming back to win the series. Don't ever count Phoenix out......
