<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">nah it's way too much! i know lamar would come back with a vengeance and so will kwame... i would only offer the T'wolves bynum "OR" kwame, mihm, george, sasha, jackson etc... and some picks... i wouldn't trade kobe (of course), odom, kwame"OR" bynum, smush (he'll be the back up PG), ronny (hustle boy), luke (he has POTENTIAL)</div> LMAO. You wouldn't trade Lamar? Since when has he shown that he plays with a vengeance? He got elbowed in game 7 and disappeared all game after that. Kwame? Are you kidding me? You wouldn't take 21/12/5 over 7/6/1? Do you not see the difference there? It's 14/6/4. That's ridiculous. You wouldn't trade Luke, either? He's good for the first quarter but then he disappears. Do you want the Lakers to win? KG could school those guys in ball in a 3 on 1 game. KG has an impact 82 games out of the year, not 60 like Lamar, 50 like Kwame, and 35 like Luke.
I really dont think we need an aging KG. If we can get a solid veteran point guard and a consistent center who doesn't miss layups, we will be fine.
The onlr problem in trading for KG is the age factor. If we trade for him, it has to be done soon. Another question is how long can KG dominate as a PF before the youngsters like Bosh, Howard etc.. catch up?
<font color=""Black"">If the Lakers do get KG, they won't have no depth. Your trading almost half of your team.</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> PG - Cassell or Banks (full MLE) SG - Kobe SF - KG PF - Turiaf C - Kwame</div> I think the lineup would look like this. Casell Kobe Walton KG Kwame Luke knows the triangle offense like the back of his hand. He was very helpful to the Lakers during the Pheonix Lakers series. Plus Garnett is far more athletic than most big men and he performs better against them than gaurds and small forwards.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">Trade rumor: Kevin Garnett to the Lakers for Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Chris Mihm and a couple draft picks.</div> In no way is that too much. Lamar Odoms offense in the play-offs was spectacular and could really interest the T-Wolves in doing this trade. But L.O. has no defense and thats something the Lakers strive on.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq and Kobe had 3 rings playing together with 1 ball. Kobe will shares the ball if you prove that you can score consistenly, you see that in the playoff against the Suns. KG is the guy who doesn't neccessarily need to take 20 shots/game; his game is very consistent with 24/12/5. Kobe and KG will be a great dynamic duo, probably better than any duo in the NBA, including Wade and Shaq, Tmac and Yao, Kidd and Carter, etc...Kobe can play on the outside while KG in the low post. Also the pick n roll with these two will create a nightmare for the defenders. I really like Kobe and KG playing on the same team. Both of them have great chemistry together and they're best friend. I remembered when Kobe was a rookie and KG was shopomore, during the ASG, KG always looked after KB. Both of them putting on a show with the alleyhoop dunk, passing, and high five; it's great </div> Yeah, but them winning is what made it last as long as it did. I don't know the exact story about Kobe/Shaq, but from what it sounded like, Kobe ran him off. KG would work, because he is a very unselfish player, I'm sure he would love to share with Kobe to maybe win a championship(since he's lost so many times in Minnesota), but will Kobe be just as eager to step aside and not be the main man all the time?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, but them winning is what made it last as long as it did. I don't know the exact story about Kobe/Shaq, but from what it sounded like, Kobe ran him off. KG would work, because he is a very unselfish player, I'm sure he would love to share with Kobe to maybe win a championship(since he's lost so many times in Minnesota), but will Kobe be just as eager to step aside and not be the main man all the time?</div> Shaq demanded a trade because Jerry Buss would not give him the extension he wanted. Shaq wanted his salary to be at $33Million per season, there's no way the Lakers could build a team with two maxed out players. Also Shaq was not committed to coming into the season in shape. "I got hurt on company time, I'm going to heal on company time." What caused the rift between Shaq and Kobe was Shaq's lack of commitment to winning. In Miami Shaq did a complete 180 by dropping the weight, signing for much less, and deferring to Dwyane Wade. If he was willing to do those 3 things in Los Angeles he'd still be a Laker and so would Kobe. As far as KG's age, I don't think it's an issue. KG keeps himself in top condition by training hard over the off season. He's also not carrying a lot of weight, so the wear and tear on his knees and feet aren't as bad as someone carrying 280 or 300lbs during their career. Look at Karl Malone for an example. He kept in shape his entire career and made an impact on the court even at the age of 40. If he wasn't involved in that freak injury playing with the Lakers, he might still be in the league today. KG will be 30, I think there's a 6 year window for him and Kobe to make a title run with the Lakers. There wouldn't be any issue with Kobe and KG co-existing on the floor together. Both put winning above everything else and they have mutual respect for one another. These two train in the offseason together so the chemistry is already there. Smoke - Your right Luke Walton would likely start at SF if the Lakers acquired KG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Duncan21:</div><div class="quote_post"><font color=""Black"">If the Lakers do get KG, they won't have no depth. Your trading almost half of your team.</font></div> PG - MLE (Terry or Cassell or Banks) / Smush / Sasha SG - Kobe / Von Wafer SF - Luke Walton PF - KG / Turiaf / Cook C - Kwame 2nd Round Pick - Draft a SF or C They would lose depth in their frontcourt with this move, but I think the Lakers can add some free agents to the mix to make up for Chris Mihm and Andrew Bynum.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Lakers can add some free agents to the mix to make up for Chris Mihm and Andrew Bynum.</div> Definately. KG and Kobe would definately draw a crowd.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lakerman34:</div><div class="quote_post">Why not Kwame Brown+Lamar Odom+2nd Round Draft Pick? That makes more sense to me.</div> For a Laker fan yeah it does. I'm a T-Wolves fan and that trade is utter BS. Kwame is developing over there and I would prefer thats where he continues too. Plus we do not need those draft picks. We have the projected sixth pick in the upcoming draft.
For God sakes trade the whole entire franshise excluding Kobe Bryant for Garnett. KB+KG= RINGS. Something KG needs. He's a 10 year veteran with no rings. Demand a trade already. Forget the respect for the city. You won your community award now it's time to win some rings. Now bring your emotional ass to L.A.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dtpxcore:</div><div class="quote_post">All we need is Kg to demand a trade.</div> <div align="center">He will do so before the feburary deadline. If not maybe sooner. </div>
KG is showing signs of aging.. look at his performance compared to the previous seasons.. only sub-par to what he is capable of. Thats a lil' too much for KG, Odom definitely raised his value by the way he played in the playoffs
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheHitman:</div><div class="quote_post">KG is showing signs of aging.. look at his performance compared to the previous seasons.. only sub-par to what he is capable of. Thats a lil' too much for KG, Odom definitely raised his value by the way he played in the playoffs</div> Look at his teammates and compare them from previous seasons. Not one change Kevin McHale made in the offseason panned out. Odom has raised his value and it still got the Lakers ousted in Round 1. If the Suns had Amare Stoudemire and/or Kurt Thomas, it's hard to imagine the Lakers winning more than a single game in the series. I do like the fact both Odom and Kwame improved during the last two months of the season, but every year they've been in the league they've never lived up to expectations. They don't approach the season with the mindset I must compete for 48 minutes every game for an entire 82 season. Physically these two can be great, but I don't know if they are ever going to have the mental edge to help lead the Lakers back to a Championship. The hardest player to give up in the deal is Andrew Bynum. Everyone who's had a chance to coach him raves about him. He's the wildcard in the trade, because centers his size and with his potential don't come around very often. The problem with Bynum is how long? How long is he going to take to be a consistent force for the Lakers. Every year he's not ready, is another year of Kobe Bryant's prime being wasted. With Kevin Garnett you know exactly what you're going to get in every game. The knock on KG is his ability to dominate down the stretch. His weakness, is Kobe's strength because Kobe is one of the best closers in the game. It's a perfect balance. The one problem the Lakers face in acquiring KG is cap flexibility going out the window. The Lakers would have two max players (KG & Kobe) and would have little money to sign any significant free agents. The Lakers would have to count on hungry veterans signing up for free at the chance to win a ring and still play a significant role on the team. The Lakers have failed to stockpile talent through the draft so their roster is even more limited by landing KG, even after Brian Grant's albatross contract comes off the books. <u>2006 Projected Roster</u> <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><br/>Garnett $20,000,000.00 <br/>Bryant $17,718,750.00 <br/><font color=""Red"">Grant $15,570,625.00</font> <br/>Brown $8,287,500.00 <br/>McKie $2,762,500.00 <br/>Walton $1,250,000.00 <br/>Vujacic $973,920.00 <br/>Cook $1,514,284.00 <br/>Parker $798,112.00 <br/>Wafer $664,209.00 <br/><br/>Total -$69,539,900.00</div> 9 players on the roster and already $17Million over the projected salary cap of $52Million The Lakers would have to add 6 more players to their roster despite the limitations. <u>2007 Projected Roster</u> <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><br/>Garnett $22,000,000.00 <br/>Bryant $19,490,625.00<br/>Brown $8,287,500.00 <br/>Vujacic $973,920.00 <br/>Cook $1,514,284.00 <br/><br/>Total - $54,536,459.00</div> The Lakers would be right at the salary cap threshold with only 5 players under contract. After looking at the salary cap limitations the Lakers would be faced with if they acquire KG, it doesn't make a lot of financial sense for the Lakers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq and Kobe had 3 rings playing together with 1 ball. Kobe will shares the ball if you prove that you can score consistenly, you see that in the playoff against the Suns. KG is the guy who doesn't neccessarily need to take 20 shots/game; his game is very consistent with 24/12/5. Kobe and KG will be a great dynamic duo, probably better than any duo in the NBA, including Wade and Shaq, Tmac and Yao, Kidd and Carter, etc...Kobe can play on the outside while KG in the low post. Also the pick n roll with these two will create a nightmare for the defenders. I really like Kobe and KG playing on the same team. Both of them have great chemistry together and they're best friend. I remembered when Kobe was a rookie and KG was shopomore, during the ASG, KG always looked after KB. Both of them putting on a show with the alleyhoop dunk, passing, and high five; it's great </div>Now that was a perfect post. I mean the possibilities that how will they dominate. And you forgot to say that both of them are good defenders. KG can block and he has very long arms but Kobe is a stand-in-front-of-a-man defender and he can cause many turnovers. And it wouldn't be too much ! Unless if Odom can play as good as he played in the postseason. Ok, to play 82 games SO GOOD, it's impossible. But if he could average about 17/8/6 a game, it would be very perfect for Kobe, imo.
