anyone knows whats going to happen to the magic's first round pick? do you guys think he will come to the nba next season? or will he continue to play overseas?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">anyone knows whats going to happen to the magic's first round pick? do you guys think he will come to the nba next season? or will he continue to play overseas?</div> I'm not sure about it, but my guess would be he's going to be overseas. He would make more money overseas and he likes it over there better. I think maybe we will see him after next year or in 3 years(when his overseas contract runs out)
Maybe staying overseas for another season or two would be good. It's been done before and when the player comes back they are usually pretty good. But it could also stunt his growth. Not playing against NBA competition. Hey whatever he wants. If he decides to come join the Magic I am sure they will find a way to get him playing time, but I think It would be smart to find out what hes doing next year. Just so they can plan accordingly to it for Free Agency and the Draft.
He's never coming to the NBA. He used us to get a bigger contract in Madrid, and since we didn't do any research, we pretty much deserved it. He has a four year contract, and he said he "doesn't feel he was ready for the NBA." Nobody who wants to play in the NBA says they don't want to be in the NBA-- he'll never be ready for the NBA. Just face it. We don't need him anyway.
Yea, im glad he didnt come over to begin with, we had kusan and now we have darko, we dont need another inexperienced player that we are trying to get ready for the NBA. Plus that saved us come cap space by not having to sign our first round pick. If he comes in 3 years we should be a very good team and could use more size and if he doesnt add him to the list of first round woes by the magic. Steven hunter, sasser, gaines and humphrey. We need to quit gambling on our first round picks and get the best talent available. I hope Smith can do that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">Why did he just drop out of the draft though?</div> exactly what im thinking. he shouldve just dropped out if he didnt want to play in the nba in the first place. now he just basically screwed the magic, because they could have gotten guys like danny granger, gerald green, and rashad mcants if it wasnt for him. anyways, i think there should be a rule in the nba saying that if you get drafted, it will be a team option to detirmine if you go overseas.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">exactly what im thinking. he shouldve just dropped out if he didnt want to play in the nba in the first place. now he just basically screwed the magic, because they could have gotten guys like danny granger, gerald green, and rashad mcants if it wasnt for him. anyways, i think there should be a rule in the nba saying that if you get drafted, it will be a team option to detirmine if you go overseas.</div> It's like when you are a senior in college, you are automatically entered in the draft, once you hit that certain age overseas, you are automatically entered. Seniors can't drop out of the draft, so I guess it's the same for overseas. It's the Magic's fault for not talking to him before they drafted him. It's common sense to talk to who you are planning on drafting, especially if they are foreign. No one is to blame other than the Magic.
I don't think you have to go at a centain age overseas. Rudy Fernandez waited a couple of years before I think he's entering this year, because he knew he wasn't going to play or be a top pick or for some reason like that, or didn't think he was ready.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think you have to go at a centain age overseas. Rudy Fernandez waited a couple of years before I think he's entering this year, because he knew he wasn't going to play or be a top pick or for some reason like that, or didn't think he was ready.</div> You have to go before you are 22-24 or something like that I think. I remember hearing someone say that, I just don't remember who.
Once you turn 22 you're automatically eligible for the draft. Fran was 22 at the time of the draft so he didn't have any choice. I think the Magic should try to trade his draft rights for a 2nd rounder.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">You have to go before you are 22-24 or something like that I think. I remember hearing someone say that, I just don't remember who.</div> Oh, sorry. Totally forgot about the age of Fran, never really knew. I thought he was like 18 or something, lol.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Once you turn 22 you're automatically eligible for the draft. Fran was 22 at the time of the draft so he didn't have any choice. I think the Magic should try to trade his draft rights for a 2nd rounder.</div> Thanks for the info shape. I knew there was something about it, because I thought the same way as you guys did, why did he even declare, but someone mentioned that he was automatically entered, like college seniors are. What team would trade a 2nd rounder for Fran though? There's no reason to believe that he's going to come to the NBA.
its def the magic's fault, i mean you have to scout the guy and talk to his people. We took a gamble and lost, it was that simple. It sucks cuz we could have had granger or green. He had nothing to lose and used the magic to get a better deal overseas. Fran Punk'd the Magic. Oh well we dont need him, we have Darko.
When you enter the draft, you should be forced to sign a contract saying you accept the team you get picked for and you're not just going to leave after you have been drafted, which would save teams from situations such as this one.
What a waste; Gerald Green, Danny Granger, Sean May, Joey Graham, Rashad McCants and some others were available. The Magic should have definitely done more research on him before drafting him.
I wouldn't even say the Magic took a gamble. Its like if you you're friend told you that he thought the Yankees had a good chance of winning the Super Bowl. Clearly he hasn't watched the game and has no business making a bet. If he goes ahead and makes a bet on the Super Bowl, its almost certain that he'll make a huge mistake.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">Thanks for the info shape. I knew there was something about it, because I thought the same way as you guys did, why did he even declare, but someone mentioned that he was automatically entered, like college seniors are. What team would trade a 2nd rounder for Fran though? There's no reason to believe that he's going to come to the NBA.</div> Well the first step would be allowing a team to talk to Fran Vazquez and see if they can convince him to come over. Maybe Fran gets the competitive urge to play in the NBA in the near future, or maybe his peers convince him to give it a shot. GM's around the league have a lot of ego as well. If one of them feels they can talk Fran into coming over to play and all it costs them is a 2nd rounder, they might take the risk.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Once you turn 22 you're automatically eligible for the draft. Fran was 22 at the time of the draft so he didn't have any choice. I think the Magic should try to trade his draft rights for a 2nd rounder.</div> I wouldn't trade Fran for anything less than a late 1st, It's not like Orlando needs 2nd round picks anyways they have 3 2nd rounders this year alone. I would keep him and see what happens, they made him a lottery pick for a reason the guy does have talent. Even though eveyone is down on him right now for not coming over, people will forget "if" he does come over and produce.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't even say the Magic took a gamble. Its like if you you're friend told you that he thought the Yankees had a good chance of winning the Super Bowl. Clearly he hasn't watched the game and has no business making a bet. If he goes ahead and makes a bet on the Super Bowl, its almost certain that he'll make a huge mistake.</div> Yankees, Super Bowl, what? Is the cross-sport thing part of your simile?
