hate kobe, praise lebron

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  1. arelis

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    comparisons

    Lebron is a more efficient player, Kobe is more offensive, I think that at this point of time Kobe is better but is because of the time hes been around in the league I think that Lebron has reach more thinks than Kobe at that age , and at the end of the day lebron will end being a better player than Kobe. Kobe is very good, but the reason he has three championships is called Shaquille oneal, Kobe was a good complement in that team but Shaq was certainly the principal in that team. Lebron is the principal on his team, and you can't make excuses about the team you have is what you have and you need to play and step up your energy Level whenever your team need you the most , I think that Kobe failed to do this in the playoff, and lebron is making a good job, because he is making a great defensive game when his offensive is not in there, he is as good as it gets, but to be better than kobe we need to wait a little be I think he is going to be better than this year the next and then believe me the kobe bryant fans are going to have problems arguing Lebron is not the better basket ball player at this era, but as I said we need to wait and see what happens.
     
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    I think whatever the case is, its a compliment to lebron that at 21 and only in his 3rd years he's already being compared to a 10 year vet. Obviously Kobe is going to have some advantages though because he has more experience.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Duncan21:</div><div class="quote_post"><div align="center"><font color=""Black"">LeBron is the closest thing the game has to Magic.
    Kobe is the closest thing the game has to Jordan.</font></div>
    </div> Seriously, can we please stop trying to make everything simple by fitting everything into neat catagories. Kobe is indeed the closest thing to MJ. He plays damn near the exact same way. Same body movements,same postgame comments, same fist pumps. Lebron isnt really close to anybody. Magic was never as athletic or as talented a scorer as Lebron. So that comparison goes out the window. Hes a big versatile player whos good at passing, so he must be like Magic Johnson. Give me a break, everything else about these players is completely different.
     
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    Kwame Brown = the next Bill Russell [​IMG] .....to hell with those who disagree!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously, can we please stop trying to make everything simple by fitting everything into neat catagories. Kobe is indeed the closest thing to MJ. He plays damn near the exact same way. Same body movements,same postgame comments, same fist pumps. Lebron isnt really close to anybody. Magic was never as athletic or as talented a scorer as Lebron. So that comparison goes out the window. Hes a big versatile player whos good at passing, so he must be like Magic Johnson. Give me a break, everything else about these players is completely different.</div>

    I think Jason Kidd is the closest to Magic in the game.

    Personally, I think it's fun trying to relate current NBA players to past players. But it would be more accurate to compare them to a combination of multiple past players.

    For instance, sure Kobe's got some Jordan in him (the mid-range game, the acrobatics around the basket, the feisty man-defense). But with his fancy behind the back dribbling and ridiculous range (not to mention suspect shot selection [​IMG]) there's also some Pete Maravich.

    LeBron is like Julius Erving in transition. The way he bullies his way to the basket in traffic is reminiscent of a young Charles Barkley. And, of course, the combination of court vision and size does remind one a bit of Magic Johnson.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously, can we please stop trying to make everything simple by fitting everything into neat catagories. Kobe is indeed the closest thing to MJ. He plays damn near the exact same way. Same body movements,same postgame comments, same fist pumps. Lebron isnt really close to anybody. Magic was never as athletic or as talented a scorer as Lebron. So that comparison goes out the window. Hes a big versatile player whos good at passing, so he must be like Magic Johnson. Give me a break, everything else about these players is completely different.</div>

    A comparision to Magic Johnson and your upset? Damn. Magic is arguably the best PG to play the game. He actually played all five postions on the Lakers roster on a regular basis. Cant score? He averaged 20 pts a game and won his first NBA title his rookie year with the team ON HIS BACK!!!! Magic scored over 40 playing center in that championship game! Not a talented at scoring as Lebron? Come on now.

    You make it sound like Magic was a nobody. Maybe you were just in diapers at the time, so its not your fault. As a long tiime Laker fan and Magic fan, when I think about magic, showtime comes to mind. When I watch Lebron, showtime comes to mind too. Court vison, size, everything. The comparison is warranted.

    Get off your high horse man. Everyone has their opinons about players. There are alot of comparisons that can be made for Lebron and Magic.
     
  7. Mamba

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    If you ever disgrace Magic like that again, get away from the sport of basketball and pick up Cricket. That's embarrassing.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Flow:</div><div class="quote_post">"
    LBJ is a superstar and very atheltic and young player. But he isn't better than Kobe.</div>

    Sorry to break the ice, but that opinion is in the minority. 4 outa 5 fans that actually know anything about basketball will tell you that LeBron > Kobe.
     
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    How do you figure LeBron is better? He had some clutch baskets, doesn't compare to Kobe's. He isn't nearly the defender Kobe is. LeBron should be a much better defender for his size, but he's horrid on D. His perimeter game is rather weak, compared to Kobe's incredible perimeter game and depth. Getting to the rim, I'd give it an equal. Passing? They're both great passers but Kobe doesn't average the assists LeBron does because he doesn't have consistent teammates. And rebounding? LeBron is a good rebounder, but he doesn't play defense he roams around and that gives him a better chance to grab boards, while Bryant actually sticks to the teams best offensive perimeter player.

    Then you have to factor in the 3 rings. LeBron is great, but he isn't Kobe, yet.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously, can we please stop trying to make everything simple by fitting everything into neat catagories. Kobe is indeed the closest thing to MJ. He plays damn near the exact same way. Same body movements,same postgame comments, same fist pumps. Lebron isnt really close to anybody. Magic was never as athletic or as talented a scorer as Lebron. So that comparison goes out the window. Hes a big versatile player whos good at passing, so he must be like Magic Johnson. Give me a break, everything else about these players is completely different.</div>


    <font color=""Black"">So your basically saying Lebron can't be compared to Magic.</font>
     
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    thats right praise lebron. hes not better but he will pass him up in no ime probably next year. if they take the champ. he will be better than JORDAN!
     
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    Talk about hype. It is so misleading.
    Kobe proved this season again that he's the best player and sent messages to his chasers "Not yet brotha. I'm still playing"
    James is great great great and is not far from Kobe but right now Kobe is the best player. Just because Kobe's out of playoffs doesn't mean he's no better than James or even Wade. Kobe's better than any player in the league.
    Oh and I don't even like Kobe. I'm all Wade fan.
     
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    beleive the hype!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting thekinglbj23:</div><div class="quote_post">if they take the champ. he will be better than JORDAN!</div>
    no offense, i tried not to get into this, but after reading some comments, i started to get pissed off. you dont honestly believe lebron will be better than jordan just because he wins a ring, do you? [​IMG]
     
  15. arelis

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    to be consider the best

    we need to wait and see what career ends with more glory, Kobe is a great player, how i already said but to be the best he needs to take charge of the game in key games and he also should be able to being the dominant force of an era, if he can't prove it when he needs to , he just passed in history as a great offensive player.
     
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    <font color=""Black"">The popular choice these days to sit on Jordan's throne is King James.

    -He wears the right number.

    -He is a team leader.

    -He is a tremendous player.

    -But he is not even Kobe let along Michael.

    Before you "Witnesses" label me as a LeBron hater, Remember that I love Lebron James and he's my 3rd favorite player in the league and I think that when he retires, King James has a chance to be one of the top 20 in NBA history. However, his game is so dissimilar to Jordan's that I don't think they are all that comparable. Jordan had a far superior jump shot, even at the early stage of his career, than Lebron has now. Jordan was a far better defender, both on the perimeter and in the interior than James is. James, however, is a more gifted ball handler than Jordan was at any point in his career. James is also distributes the rock with efficacy and grace that Jordan could have only dreamed of. LeBron is also a physical freak. He is 21years old (they say), 6"8 and built like a tank. Jordan at 21 looked like he was attending dinner parties with Nicole Richie and Mary Kate Olson. In my mind, LeBron James is the next Magic Johnson. Magic had the physical tools and could play all five positions on the court much like Lebron. Magic had the court vision and ball handling skills that LeBron possesses. And honestly, Magic had a similar jump shot to James at this point in his career.Now, obviously, LeBron is a far superior scorer than Magic was and plays a different position. But when we are comparing greats from different eras, why don't we compare apples to apples? Let's not compare LeBron to Michael Jordan.

    LeBron is the closest thing the game has to Magic.

    Kobe is the closest thing the game has to Jordan.
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  17. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    I don't know why people in this forum are complaining about Lebron's hype. Its the exact same thing that VC and Kobe were getting before they flopped out and had a criminal trial, respectively. The NBA and the media are just building James up to be that squeaky clean spokesmodel for American basketball. Personally, I think its a curse as much as it is a benefit. People will be looking for any sort of weakness and if he shows one, he'll be dragged through the mud for no reason of his own.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Duncan21:</div><div class="quote_post"><font color=""Black"">So your basically saying Lebron can't be compared to Magic.</font></div>

    That's right, Magic was a highly efficiant player the minute he came into the NBA. Lebron kinda reminds me of a smaller KG, before you grab your guns let me explain first. KG is the highest efficiant player right now, dishing out points, rebounds, assits, etc, it's the same thing Lebron is doing except he's having more success with the cavs. Lebron doesn't really have a specialty, he just does a little bit of everything.
     
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    On that aspect, you're right. Kobe and VC were built up the same way until they ran into troubles, what will happen if LeBron runs into more legal troubles? That's an interesting way to look at it, I thought I was the only one who thought that at times.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know why people in this forum are complaining about Lebron's hype. Its the exact same thing that VC and Kobe were getting before they flopped out and had a criminal trial, respectively. The NBA and the media are just building James up to be that squeaky clean spokesmodel for American basketball. Personally, I think its a curse as much as it is a benefit. People will be looking for any sort of weakness and if he shows one, he'll be dragged through the mud for no reason of his own.</div>


    I like that theory and I agree. Lebron better be careful, because if he does anything that's considered bad from killing someone to stepping on an ant the media will have a field day and back to the drawing board for the NBA. I think the last NBA's "golden child" was either Larry Bird or Kareem.
     

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