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  1. jbbKingKobe

    jbbKingKobe JBB JustBBall Member

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    I have a feeling KG will force his emotional ass to LA. Minny won't mind because Odom's stock is simply skyhigh after doing 20/10/5 against phonix and playing consistently.

    Trade:

    Lakers: Odom, Mihm, Mckie, George (sign and trade)
    Wolvess: KG, Banks (MLE via sign and trade)

    PG: Banks, Smush, Sasha
    SG: Kobe, Profit, Wafer
    SF: Luke, Kukoc (vet min), Shawne Williams or Kyle Lowry (draft 1st round), Steve Novak (draft 2nd round)
    PF: KG, Turief, Cook
    C: Brown, Bynum

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    Pipedream? [​IMG]
     
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    Thats a great dream but thats all it is a DREAM...i would love to see KG in L.A. but i just dont see it happening, i would not let go of both Odom and Mihm if I was LA bcuz they both played big roles on the team this year, i like Smush as a PG and i think if we can draft a future superstar in this years draft by trading up to get maybe Rudy Gay, Rodney Carney or Andre Bargnani and sign a key role player or two we could be in the top 5 west teams next year along with the Spurs, Mavs, Clips, and Suns.
     
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    jbbKingKobe JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Beastin510:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats a great dream but thats all it is a DREAM...i would love to see KG in L.A. but i just dont see it happening, i would not let go of both Odom and Mihm if I was LA bcuz they both played big roles on the team this year, i like Smush as a PG and i think if we can draft a future superstar in this years draft by trading up to get maybe Rudy Gay, Rodney Carney or Andre Bargnani and sign a key role player or two we could be in the top 5 west teams next year along with the Spurs, Mavs, Clips, and Suns.</div>
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    [​IMG] So close yet so far...
     
  4. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The Wolves might be more interested in Kwame Brown with how he finished his season. If he can clear his rape accusations (and their just that, accusations), I wouldn't be surprised to see him shipped off IF a deal is made for Garnett.

    I think the Wolves would want: Odom, Kwame, McKie, and George (S&T) for Garnett and Banks. But would we really want to do this? Would Garnett put us in salary cap hell, I'm honestly not sure on what our cap situation would be.

    If it didn't, I'd pull the trigger right away. We'd have one hell of a starting lineup, tall and versatile.

    Banks, Kobe, Walton, KG, and Mihm. We could use our pick on a PF or a SG to back up Kobe (Maurice Ager). I think that's a contending team, and possibly a championship team.
     
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    hmmm... we can afford to give away mihm and bynum... we cant give away odom IMO coz he's our triple double guy... we could try to get KG via a sign $ trade w/ the MLE (say somebody) + mihm + bynum + picks and money for KG and banks
     
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    kobe 23, You're insane ?[​IMG] It's impossible. To you imagine a roster: Banks, Kobe, Odom, KG, Brown ????[​IMG] No way, and I won't make the KG trade. He wants too much money and I believe that Odom is going to play great next year in the L.A. But yeah, Odom is 27. Not young, in his best years. So...

    KG trade would be risky, if we would do it, we should give away some of "our future". And maybe KG and Kobe won't work ?

    I wouldn't do it, but then... Imagine Kobe&KG dominating the league, their desire and talent... I don't know man;D
     
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    I would love to make that trade but, is our bench going to be any good?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">hmmm... we can afford to give away mihm and bynum... we cant give away odom IMO coz he's our triple double guy... we could try to get KG via a sign $ trade w/ the MLE (say somebody) + mihm + bynum + picks and money for KG and banks</div>

    KG is more of a threat for a triple double at times than Odom. Odom averaged 14.8 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 5.5 APG. Kevin Garnett averaged 21.8 PPG, 12.7 RPG, and 4.1 APG. If you put Kobe Bryant on a team with Garnett, he'll average more assists than Lamar.

    Garnett is a very versatile big man. You're nuts if you don't take him over Odom. Triple double's are overrated. When we had Kobe and Shaq, did we have a lot of triple doubles? No. Kobe and KG is better than Kobe and Shaq, it's more versatile. No way in hell do we need triple doubles.
     
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    im a twolves fan and personnaly i kinda want to see KG and Kobe together. But these trades dont add up. Why would Minni give up KG and a very young pg with upside for odom(biggest waste of talent in the L) and crap
     
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    Actually, Odom put it together towards the end of the season. He was deadly for the Lakers. It's the system he had to learn that made him struggle. The triangle takes two good years to learn, and it took Odom about a year and a half.

    I think the Lakers are going to have to give up Odom, Bynum, and Kwame or Mihm.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">KG is more of a threat for a triple double at times than Odom. Odom averaged 14.8 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 5.5 APG. Kevin Garnett averaged 21.8 PPG, 12.7 RPG, and 4.1 APG. If you put Kobe Bryant on a team with Garnett, he'll average more assists than Lamar.

    Garnett is a very versatile big man. You're nuts if you don't take him over Odom. Triple double's are overrated. When we had Kobe and Shaq, did we have a lot of triple doubles? No. Kobe and KG is better than Kobe and Shaq, it's more versatile. No way in hell do we need triple doubles.</div>Yeah, you're right. You brought me back on earth. KG and Kobe would be insane. And I think that they will be better friends than shaq and kobe were.
     
  12. 1kobe2gasol3bynum4odom

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    When are you guys stop dreaming? KG ain't going nowhere unless he demands for a trade. There are been so many threads about KG already [​IMG] . If KG comes to LA, Sam will takes the MLE. Potential Starting lineup:

    PG: Sam Cassel
    SG: Kobe Bryant
    SF: Luke Walton
    PF: Kevin Garnett
    C: Kwame Brown

    pretty good lineup but that's a good dream though
     
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    doesn't sam play for the clippers?
     
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    he's a free agent this summer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting whomikejones:</div><div class="quote_post">doesn't sam play for the clippers?</div>

    Forget Sam Cassel. He's gonna turn 59 in october. Imagine a defense that had Kobe and Banks in the backcourt. [​IMG] Now Imagine that same team with KG and Kwame in the front court.[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Forget Luke Walton, I can play the 3 and we'd lead the league in D!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KingKobe:</div><div class="quote_post">Forget Sam Cassel. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He's gonna turn 59 in october.</div> Imagine a defense that had Kobe and Banks in the backcourt. [​IMG] Now Imagine that same team with KG and Kwame in the front court.[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Forget Luke Walton, I can play the 3 and we'd lead the league in D!</div>

    [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">hmmm... we can afford to give away mihm and bynum... we cant give away odom IMO coz he's our triple double guy... we could try to get KG via a sign $ trade w/ the MLE (say somebody) + mihm + bynum + picks and money for KG and banks</div>

    You do know that you would have to pay KG 20 million dollars next year, 22 million the following year and 24 million the year after that? I know he wants a ring, but do you really think that he will give up 15.5 million, 17.5 million, and 19.5 million in 3 consecutive years(assuming MLE=4.5 mil)? Also if he agrees to do that, it's not possible, unless Minnesota makes a massive buyout, but why would they do that? Teams can only do a sign and trade IF the player is a FA.

    Basically the only way to do this trade is to trade Odom, who is scheduled to make 12.5 million and you still have to get near 17-18 million in the trade. Lamar Odom and Kwame Brown would get you that. Basically this is your team next year with their contracts....

    Kobe 17.718 mil
    Brian Grant 15.57 mil
    Odom 12.489 mil
    Kwame 8.287 mil
    Mihm 4.218 mil
    McKie 2.762 mil
    Bynum 2.030 mil
    Cook 1.514 mil
    Walton 1.25 mil
    Sasha .973 mil
    Smush .798 mil
    Von Wafer(team option) .664 mil

    So basically Odom or Brian Grant have to be involved in any trade, unless you give up everyone. With the 25% rule you can add up to 16 million if you are just getting KG. Banks will be a FA, so that means that you would likely get him for the MLE if you do a sign and trade deal, so that means that you would have to add up at least 20 million. That just shows how unlikely this trade is and the fact that Lamar Odom would have to be involved, unless for some reason Minnesota would rather have Brian Grant. Also if you do manage to get KG, him and Kobe will combine for nearly 38 million dollars and the cap won't be any higher than 50 million, so that's 12 million if you want to stay under the cap for the other 13 players. So regardless of whether or not you trade Grant or Odom(more than likely Odom) you will be over the cap with just 3 players.

    Oh and for all of you people thinking that they could use the cap space, well they have about 36.2 million in other people(not with KG) already for the 2007 season with only 8 players, plus their high draft pick this year and likely high draft pick next year, it doesn't look like they will be under enough for it to really make a difference and get a max player. So Brian Grant's expiring deal isn't really good enough to entice them unless they do other trades to get other expiring deals.

    So basically it's not a very likely scenario to 1) Get KG and 2) Get KG without trading Odom. It's just a pipedream and it will likely stay that way.
     

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