Toronto Gets 1st Pick In NBA Draft

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  1. spyware

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    Fan590 covered a great interview with Colangelo today. Colangelo seemed to have a lot of interest drawn on 2 players: Aldridge and Bargnani (surprise, surprise). However, he also covered the importance of getting a pointguard, which brings to the question- will the Raps trade down for Marcus Williams and some?
     
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    ^ If he pulls it off, hes a god.
     
  3. TORaptors bb4

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    THE RAPS WILL TAKE BARGNANI
    Colangelo loves him, he runs well in transition, can shoot 3's, and is 7 feet tall. Bargnani-Bosh-Villanueva is scary
     
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    Agreed.
     
  5. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    I say draft Andrea Bargnani.. This guy is a crazy monster. He is another version of Nowitzki. He can play center for raptors. He is pretty good. But players from Europe usually aren't good.. No offense.. I haven't seen him play but people are saying he is super cold. Raptors are kinda leaning towards this guy.. but if he sucks.. i say draft LeMarcus Aldrige.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Toronto media are leaning towards the Raptors trading the pick for a role player and a lower pick. So it looks like toronto may trade down.. this will be good for toronto because
    top 5 players that are likely to get drafted are about the same. so it doesnt matter which one gets drafted first or fifth because in top 5, all are the same. Toronto also gets a role player. so this helps toronto.. we can trade hawks or the trailblazers(need a 1st pick) for a 4th or 5th pick and get a role player like Al Harrington or someone
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Colangelo.. Plz trade ur #1 pick for Rockets Howard and #8 pick.. Plz.. Plz.. We really want it..
     
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    I may be in the minority here but I don't want us to draft Bargnani. People are comparing him to Nowitzki but how many 7 footers in the league have an outside shot like Notwitzki? None. Nowitzki is the type of player that does not come along very often at ALL.

    He seems like a huge risk to me. Nowitzki took a very long time to develop and who knows how long Bargnani will take. If we're going to draft someone at #1, I want a sure things (or at least close to it) and someone that contribute fairly quickly. And if not that player has to have crazy potential.
     
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    Ummm Hmmm Umair.. But if u actually listened the GM said, he does not want to be in cap hell for now and in the future. Anybody want an average IQ knows that Howard sucks and is bad for any franchise that is rebuilding. Even if u were joking it's outright ridiculous to even mention it. Why not just trade it to San Antonio for the 59th pick and like Rasho Nestovich.. heh ppl with no common sense.

    On the flip side on Bargnani, Not many Euro's are known for the good all around defense or good rebounding skills. I doubt he would help Raps out in any way. yeah sure he has great offensive skills but Raps don't need that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I say draft Andrea Bargnani.. This guy is a crazy monster. He is another version of Nowitzki. He can play center for raptors. He is pretty good. But players from Europe usually aren't good.. No offense.. I haven't seen him play but people are saying he is super cold. Raptors are kinda leaning towards this guy.. but if he sucks.. i say draft LeMarcus Aldrige.</div>
    Yea, but remember, Colangelo is experienced with dealing International Players. Leandro Barbosa i think was one of his findings too, i'm pretty sure he knows if he is suittable for this team or not. Right now, im confused if we should draft him, Aldridge, or trade the pick. Someone help me.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">Toronto media are leaning towards the Raptors trading the pick for a role player and a lower pick. So it looks like toronto may trade down.. this will be good for toronto because
    top 5 players that are likely to get drafted are about the same. so it doesnt matter which one gets drafted first or fifth because in top 5, all are the same. Toronto also gets a role player. so this helps toronto.. we can trade hawks or the trailblazers(need a 1st pick) for a 4th or 5th pick and get a <u>role player</u> like <u>Al Harrington </u>or someone</div>
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Colangelo.. Plz trade ur #1 pick for Rockets Howard and #8 pick.. Plz.. Plz.. We really want it..</div>
    Again, [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eclipse:</div><div class="quote_post">I may be in the minority here but I don't want us to draft Bargnani. People are comparing him to Nowitzki but how many 7 footers in the league have an outside shot like Notwitzki? None. Nowitzki is the type of player that does not come along very often at ALL.

    He seems like a huge risk to me. Nowitzki took a very long time to develop and who knows how long Bargnani will take. If we're going to draft someone at #1, I want a sure things (or at least close to it) and someone that contribute fairly quickly. And if not that player has to have crazy potential.</div>

    How is 2 seasons very long? He became a full time starter in his second year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">How is 2 seasons very long? He became a full time starter in his second year.</div>

    My bad. Maybe I was thinking of someone else [​IMG]

    I still think he's a work in progress though. I give him at least 2-3 years to make an impact.
     
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    here's a sneaky move that could be done (if not tell me)

    1. trade down to get brandon roy and get a decent player (hopefully either a PG or a guy that has post game) in return with whoever toronto trade with
    2. since toronto's assistant GM was bargnani's GM in italy...tell bargnani to withdraw from the draft, sign him as free agent with 1st round money (to make bargnani feel more balanced)
    3. use that 10 million on role players like wilcox+reggie evans+earl watson

    then all of a sudden toronto has a deep and promising team
     
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    i don't know who the raptors should choose? they do need a center to compliment bosh, i would have to say aldridge or thomas for that. but that italian player is supposed to be the next dirk. tough decision for the raptors. i am curious who they are going to choose.
     
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    I have a feeling the Raps will most likely trade this pick down, maybe along with Mike James.
     
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    I was thinking that we trade down with the Blazers for Martell Webster and their 4th pick, and then select a PG with that pick Foye or Marcus Williams, even though he's a reach (like many thought Felton was last year), it'll help solve our PG problem and we'll get a potential star in Webster to help us on the wing. Though, I'm not sure if that's a great trade on the Raps part, it could be a flop if Webster doesn't develop. I don't think either team will be willing to do the trade. Just throwing an idea out there.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting P.A.P.:</div><div class="quote_post">I was thinking that we trade down with the Blazers for Martell Webster and their 4th pick, and then select a PG with that pick Foye or Marcus Williams, even though he's a reach (like many thought Felton was last year), it'll help solve our PG problem and we'll get a potential star in Webster to help us on the wing. Though, I'm not sure if that's a great trade on the Raps part, it could be a flop if Webster doesn't develop. I don't think either team will be willing to do the trade. Just throwing an idea out there.</div>

    I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

    PG - Marcus Williams
    SG - Martell Webster
    SF - CV31
    PF - CB4
    C - ??

    I'm not sure if Portland would do that trade though, since they just drafted him last year and he's only 19.
     
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    I don't know why we're even looking at Andrea Bargnani. Dave Feschuk had an article in the Star today quoting Colangelo as saying we needed a "tough inside presence" and "rebounding". According to what we need, Bargnani is far from the best choice. Sure, he's the best prospect out there in terms of projected success, but a guy like Lamarcus Aldridge or Marcus Williams could easily solve our problems, and maybe then some.

    My gut feeling is that Colangelo is using Bargnani as a smokescreen, and initiating interest in him from other teams, so that he may trade down, which IMO is the best move to make.
     
  20. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Just throwing more trades around:

    Jose Calderon and the 1st overall pick

    FOR

    Andrew Bynum and the 26th overall pick
     

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