<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">Just throwing more trades around: Jose Calderon and the 1st overall pick FOR Andrew Bynum and the 26th overall pick</div> Personally, I think Calderon alone is worth the 26th pick, so it comes down to 1st for Bynum. Would Bynum really be better than anyone we can pick at number one?
i wouldn't do that chutney bynum is still too raw and 26th pick this year won't get you anywhere i would say if toronto trades down it has to be lottery pick
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know why we're even looking at Andrea Bargnani. Dave Feschuk had an article in the Star today quoting Colangelo as saying we needed a "tough inside presence" and "rebounding". According to what we need, Bargnani is far from the best choice. Sure, he's the best prospect out there in terms of projected success, but a guy like Lamarcus Aldridge or Marcus Williams could easily solve our problems, and maybe then some. My gut feeling is that Colangelo is using Bargnani as a smokescreen, and initiating interest in him from other teams, so that he may trade down, which IMO is the best move to make.</div> i agree that bargnani won't be super effective for maybe another 2 years that's exactly why i suggested signing him as free agent after talking him OUT of the draft that would be great undrafted free agent price would be cheaper than a first round lottery pick the chance of this happening though is not huge but it's definitely NOT zero, as the assistant GM for colangelo was treviso's GM just not long ago the relation and inside connection might just work out
Yeea I wouldn't do it either, now that I think of it. We'd be trading too far down and the fact that we'd have to include a player is out of the question.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting P.A.P.:</div><div class="quote_post">I was thinking that we trade down with the Blazers for Martell Webster and their 4th pick, and then select a PG with that pick Foye or Marcus Williams, even though he's a reach (like many thought Felton was last year), it'll help solve our PG problem and we'll get a potential star in Webster to help us on the wing. Though, I'm not sure if that's a great trade on the Raps part, it could be a flop if Webster doesn't develop. I don't think either team will be willing to do the trade. Just throwing an idea out there.</div> I agree with you in the sense that we always say we need a pass first pg and centre first (most teams are probably looking for the same things) but we are seriously lacking a guy on the wing who consistantly slashes to the basket. Having a guy like that on our team should help create some movement in our offense if we can get a swing man who goes to the hoop and attracts defenders. I think it's a great way to help jump start the offense in the half court set given that we probably won't find the guard we want right away.
Aldridge or Bargnani, likely Bargnani IMO. I remember a thread talking about the GM of the italina club Bargnani plays for Benneton Treviso coming over to be the vice GM of the raptors or second fiddle to Colangelo, that could be maybe because they have that much of an interest in Andrea?
Colangelo said that he would want Bosh's input on who they should draft. And Bosh isnt high on Bargnani supposedly so, i dont know if hes the best guy to get. I say trade the pick for a next year's pick, where the draft will be loaded. If we're lucky enough we could win the lottery again.
How available is Earl Watson? He's the kind of PG that I'd love to have and would consider trading down for.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">How available is Earl Watson? He's the kind of PG that I'd love to have and would consider trading down for.</div> I don't know if Watson can run a team though. He's a good second PG, but as a first and starting PG, I'm not sure if he's the best option. Obviously you can't know without giving him a chance, but I'm not sure.
i always thought maybe foye/roy + watson would be a pretty good 1st+2nd PG option and of course that involves trading down
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know if Watson can run a team though. He's a good second PG, but as a first and starting PG, I'm not sure if he's the best option. Obviously you can't know without giving him a chance, but I'm not sure.</div> That's a legitimate issue, but people are saying we go after Speedy Claxton in the offseason and I prefer Watson over Speedy. And we could always create a platoon situation where we have two solid, not spectacular, PG's that kind of share the load. At least until we find that long-term solution. He'd be an improvement over Mike James, in any case.
Speedy is a bad idea too, now this is not in relation to his abilities, but to the fact that Speedy is injured every year. I love Speedy, but this season was when he played his highest amount of games, and he played 71 games. If he can stay healthy though, I definately wouldn't mind him. I think the best plan we can have is to draft Aldridge, then package Charlie and Graham to I'd say Minnesotta, and get Rudy Gay. Now obviously this is highely dependent on what Minny wants. They do like Gay, but Charlie and Graham would also be nice for them. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i always thought maybe foye/roy + watson would be a pretty good 1st+2nd PG option and of course that involves trading down</div> How Foye does not remind people of Mike James is beyond me. Since when was he a true PG?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the best plan we can have is to draft Aldridge, then package Charlie and Graham to I'd say Minnesotta, and get Rudy Gay. Now obviously this is highely dependent on what Minny wants. They do like Gay, but Charlie and Graham would also be nice for them.</div> Are you crazy? Charlie and Graham for Gay, a proven player in the NBA and another solid young player who can improve with playing time for a player who hasnt yet played an NBA game, in a draft with no real 1st overall choice. I say we keep Charlie, he can't and wont be traded at this time, not for Gay anyway.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">From what I hear Andrea Bargani is who Colangelo wants. Congrats on the #1 pick overall. I really feel Adam Morrison would be your best fit for the scoring effort.</div> The only thing the raptors can do is score, so how do you figure?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">How Foye does not remind people of Mike James is beyond me. Since when was he a true PG?</div> i think foye will listen to coach (untilhe realizes that mitchell knows nothing ) because afterall he's a rookie AND also for the fact that he's not a rookie in the wade/lebron profile therefore he has to listen to have a NBA career otherwise he will end up like JR smith Speedy is a good option too but i prefer him on the bench 6th man/pace changer type of player i won't want him to start because he is somewhat injury prone on bench reduce his chance of being injured but of course, that's only if price is right i also wouldn't mind mike james (he gets his wish to score as undersized SG and become "allstar" with chris paul feeding him the ball) packaged with the first overall pick along with calderon/eric williams for hornets' two lottery picks+rasual butler+speedy rasual butler is underrated i think and he is better than his numbers imply
Man, Chris Paul isnt gonna be traded like that. The first pick wont be better than Chris Paul so why would they even consider that.
