<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Orlando Magic are trying to move up from No. 11 in the June 28 NBA draft and, according to league sources, have talked to two teams in hopes of improving their chances of landing either Connecticut small forward Rudy Gay or Duke forward/center Shelden Williams. NBA sources tell the Sentinel that the Magic have had discussions with the Boston Celtics and the Houston Rockets about swapping picks or having those teams pick for them. The Celtics select at No. 7 and the Rockets No. 8. The Golden State Warriors pick at No. 9 and the Seattle SuperSonics at No. 10. Orlando would like to climb as high as No. 6 -- the spot held by the Minnesota Timberwolves. What players have the Magic targeted from Nos. 7 to 11? Sources say the club's short list is likely headed by Gay and Williams, followed by, in no specific order, Memphis shooting guard Rodney Carney, Duke shooting guard J.J. Redick and Villanova combo guard Randy Foye. Orlando is in the market for a shooting guard, small forward and a big man. The Magic love Washington shooting guard Brandon Roy, but they probably can't climb high enough to snag him. Same might be true with Gay, perhaps forcing the Magic to deal to get in position to take Williams. Magic General Manager Otis Smith confirmed Tuesday that the club is looking to move up, but, naturally, wouldn't offer specifics. "I don't know how high we can get, maybe three or four picks ahead," he said. "Anything above that is difficult." Smith would not say which teams the Magic have contacted but added that moving up would require swapping drafting spots and offering current or future second-round picks and/or a player in a deal.</div> Source
Please for the love of god, don't trade up to draft either of the Dukies. We don't need another big in the lottery and JJ Redick will be available at 11. I really wouldn't mind trading up to get Gay or Roy. Carney might not be bad either, but he might fall to 11.
Jameer Nelson...Brandon Roy...Deshawn Stevenson...Dwight Howard...Darko I know people are gonna say wow take Rudy Gay over Brandon Roy, but Roy would instantly become your second scoring option while Gay still needs to develop. The only top 10 teams in which Gay would be an instant contributor would be Houston, chicago, and Golden state because they have their all star foundation set with at least 2 first options. Roy can take it to the hole and dish it off. If you somehow nab Roy and he turns out to be the player we expect him to be...I smell playoffs.
I think its for Roy but Gay would be nice plus theres M. Williams also could drop and many teams want him so maybe go after him and get a trade for someone experienced for him. We will prob stay at 11 if we want Redick or hope that someone drops like S.Williams. We havent had them in for workouts yet so maybe they find someone else
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">Jameer Nelson...Brandon Roy...Deshawn Stevenson...Dwight Howard...Darko I know people are gonna say wow take Rudy Gay over Brandon Roy, but Roy would instantly become your second scoring option while Gay still needs to develop. The only top 10 teams in which Gay would be an instant contributor would be Houston, chicago, and Golden state because they have their all star foundation set with at least 2 first options. Roy can take it to the hole and dish it off. If you somehow nab Roy and he turns out to be the player we expect him to be...I smell playoffs.</div> I agree with you about Roy over Gay, but I disagree with you about the rest. We don't really need someone to step in right away and score. We need a guy that can just do everything. Hedo can score whenever and whereever he wants and Dwight will be the primary option. Then you add in Jameer who gets to the hole whenever he wants. I also expect Darko to get a good amount of touches. The lineup with him would be Jameer, Roy, Hedo, Dwight, Darko. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting FlaBoy:</div><div class="quote_post">I think its for Roy but Gay would be nice plus theres M. Williams also could drop and many teams want him so maybe go after him and get a trade for someone experienced for him. We will prob stay at 11 if we want Redick or hope that someone drops like S.Williams. We havent had them in for workouts yet so maybe they find someone else</div> We don't need either Williams. PG is the best position we have with Jameer, Arroyo, Dooling, and Diener that can play PG. Also our biggest position of need is either SG/SF. I would like to draft a big in the 2nd round, but I don't want to use a lottery pick on one when we have Darko/Dwight who will be the future. We just need depth behind Battie, so a 2nd rounder would be good to draft a big.
I don't want Gay at all, I doubt he'll ever live up to any potential. He won't be bad, but not the type of winner we need.
I hope we don't jusmp up just to take Reddick or Sheldon Williams. they both should be avalible at 11. Ideally I would like Carney at 11 but if we jump I would like Roy over Gay.
Nbadraft.net was talking about this trade Orlando Trades- Keyon Dooling #11 1 or 2 of the 2nd Rounders Atlanta Trades- #5 Why Orlando does it is because they move up 6 spots for the coveted Rudy Gay or even Brandon Roy or the Magic get lucy and draft LaMarcus Aldridge. Atlanta does it because they get a PG and they move down and draft Shelden Williams and a post player they need.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TwinTowers:</div><div class="quote_post">Nbadraft.net was talking about this trade Orlando Trades- Keyon Dooling #11 1 or 2 of the 2nd Rounders Atlanta Trades- #5 Why Orlando does it is because they move up 6 spots for the coveted Rudy Gay or even Brandon Roy or the Magic get lucy and draft LaMarcus Aldridge. Atlanta does it because they get a PG and they move down and draft Shelden Williams and a post player they need.</div> That seems pretty fair, although Dooling isn't really a PG that they need. I think they use the pick to get a PG. I heard that they would want Fran Vazquez though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">That seems pretty fair, although Dooling isn't really a PG that they need. I think they use the pick to get a PG. I heard that they would want Fran Vazquez though.</div> They can have Vasquez.
A lot of people are trying to jump for Brandon Roy because he has been very impressive at workouts and he has proven to be very versatile. His stock is extremely high right now which isn't good for the Magic. If we want to get him, I think we would have to give up someone like Arroyo or Battie along with our pick (and possibly one of our second rounders). Do you guys think that would be worth it if it gives us a shot at Roy?
UPDATE! <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Orlando Sentinel - The Orlando Magic are looking to trade up in this year's draft with either the Timberwolves, Celtics or Rockets, positions 6, 7 or 8. "I'm comfortable at 11, but we're trying to get up a couple picks ahead of us,'' said Magic General Manager Otis Smith. "It's a realistic goal. There are teams trying to move down, so I wouldn't be surprised if we get in there. "We've heard nothing yet that would knock us over. All the talks have been so preliminary at this point,'' Smith said. "Things are just being thrown against the wall. Everyone has to get comfortable with the draft and who they can get at their spots. A week or so from now, talks will get more serious.''</div> Source
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">Any word on who we would give up to move up?</div> I'm assuming if the Rockets' pick were involved we would be giving up Stevenson, our 11th pick, and possibly one of our second round selections. As far as who we'd give up to the Timberwolves or the Celtics, I have no idea. EDIT: Actually, after reading a segment on OrlandoMagic.com called Ask Otis, it sounds a lot like the rights to Fran Vazquez could be on the table as well. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">From Julian (6/1): Otis, would you consider trading Fran Vazquez in an effort to move up in the Draft, or is he off limits? Otis: Julian, thank you for your interest and knowledge of the upcoming Draft. We have been saying since we drafted Fran last year that he is an asset to us. So we would consider using an asset to gain better assets. Keep the faith, Otis.</div> I bet if one of these trades go down, Fran Vazquez' contract will be involved.
If we move up to get the Rockets' 8th or Celtics 7th pick then I'd have us draft Brandon Roy but I don't think he will fall to those spots. In nearly every mock draft I've seen people have him going to Portland at the 4th pick and Rudy Gay going to Minnesota at the 6th pick. If we were to move up then we would probably be moving up for Rodney Carney even though there's a chance that he'll fall to the 11th pick. I don't think we should draft Shelden Williams, we have a solid frontcourt as of now with D12, Darko, and Battie. JJ Redick... that name has been everywhere on the Magic forums and there is talk that that is who the Magic pick at 11, I have no idea about him, I know that he is the best shooter in the draft and that some people consider him one-sided because all he does is shoot and is under-sized and is not that great of a defender. If the Magic pick Redick at 11 while Carney or Brewer is still available then I'll probably be dissapointed, but that is unlikely. I trust Otis Smith though, I think we'll have a good draft this year.
