Kirk Hinrich: Forgotten Star in 03' Draft Class?

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  1. Midnight Green

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    Kirk Hinrich often times seems to have his name forgotten, or left out of the conversation when people talk about the 2003 draft class. They begin to name all the great players who have already solidified themselves as stars in the league Lebron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, Howard, and then all of a sudden it stops there. Tonight was a perfect example as Wade was giving his pre-game interview about how important is to him to be the first out of the 2003 draft class to win a title. He named all the players I mentioned above, but conveniently forgot about Kirk. Is it just me or is Kirk not getting the credit he deserves for what he has accomplished thus far in the league?

    You compare there careers to date, Kirk and Howards, and Kirk has averaged more points, assists, steals, and a better free throw percentage. Yet in all the “draft redo” articles you see now a days have Howard going earlier than Hinrich. Also another thing that Kirk does well that is not shown in his stats in play defense. He ranked top twenty this past season in the league in charges drawn, and received votes for the NBA all defensive teams. Again I pose the question is Hinrich underrated by the media? Or does he get the credit he deserves? Does he deserve to be mentioned amidst that elite group of stars that came out of that draft?
     
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    I noticed the same thing in the pre game. I was thinking were is heinrich. He is so fun to watch and defintely can be an elite pg in only a few years.
     
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    he definately forgotten because he isn't flashy.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting I-Miss-MJ:</div><div class="quote_post">he definately forgotten because he isn't flashy.</div>
    Exactly, he gets the job done and gets it done well.
    And because of Gordon's clutch play in his rookie season overshadows Kirk's achievements and development.
     
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    I think Hinrich is a very good player. A very solid, if not spectacular, starting point guard. That said, for that draft class, 4 are obviously ahead of the rest (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Carmelo). Wade probably mentioned Howard because he was on his mind at the time since they are now playing eachother in the Finals.

    I do think Josh Howard will be an allstar in the coming years. I'm no so sure about Hinrich, however.
     
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    Hinrich will be an all-star.
     
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    ^^I love unbias opinions, JK though, i totally agree
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They begin to name all the great players who have already solidified themselves as stars in the league
    Is it just me or is Kirk not getting the credit he deserves for what he has accomplished thus far in the league?</div>
    Its just you.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Kirk Hinrich often times seems to have his name forgotten, or left out of the conversation when people talk about the 2003 draft class. They begin to name all the great players who have already solidified themselves as stars in the league Lebron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, Howard, and then all of a sudden it stops there. Tonight was a perfect example as Wade was giving his pre-game interview about how important is to him to be the first out of the 2003 draft class to win a title. He named all the players I mentioned above, but conveniently forgot about Kirk. Is it just me or is Kirk not getting the credit he deserves for what he has accomplished thus far in the league?

    You compare there careers to date, Kirk and Howards, and Kirk has averaged more points, assists, steals, and a better free throw percentage. Yet in all the ?draft redo? articles you see now a days have Howard going earlier than Hinrich. Also another thing that Kirk does well that is not shown in his stats in play defense. He ranked top twenty this past season in the league in charges drawn, and received votes for the NBA all defensive teams. Again I pose the question is Hinrich underrated by the media? Or does he get the credit he deserves? Does he deserve to be mentioned amidst that elite group of stars that came out of that draft?</div>

    Lebron, Wade, Melo and Bosh are clearly a step above Kirk at this point, and Howard is in the finals against Wade. I guess that's why those names were dropped.
    But i don't think you should take this as disrespect to Kirk. I think Wade knows very well who Kirk is after their first round matchup. And in general, i think the respect level for Kirk from the rest of the NBA is pretty high.

    But you can't argue that he is a lot less flashy than those guys mentioned on the court, and off the court, he keeps to himself and is very low key. So no wonder he doesn't get the media attention he deserves.


    btw, you want to talk disrespect? Wade says he wants to be the first player from the 2003 draft to win a title. Great for him. But the problem is: Darko already has a ring. So what? Did Wade forget about him, or did he mean Darko is not a real player? Now that's disrespect! [​IMG]
     
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    He is, but I guess a couple of others are too, because they only talk about LeBron and Wade.
     
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    the NBA picks and chose who will be their most money makers so thats y they do not say anything about him. we will prove them wrong next year the Bulls will be a great team can u say NBA FINALS. [​IMG]. they really do not say anything about Ben Gordon and Luol Deng either. if ur not on these teams Miami, Cavs, Dallas, Pheonix, the NBA and all really do not care.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Noir:</div><div class="quote_post">


    btw, you want to talk disrespect? Wade says he wants to be the first player from the 2003 draft to win a title. Great for him. But the problem is: Darko already has a ring. So what? Did Wade forget about him, or did he mean Darko is not a real player? Now that's disrespect! [​IMG]</div>
    I noticed that too. I was just talking to my dad about that a couple days ago. I think he was talking about being the first of that "elite" class do it though, and well Darko hasn't exactly shown anything to be considered a future "elite" player yet. He has made some big strides since being traded to Orlando.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Its just you.</div>
    Love your in depth answers keep up the good work.[​IMG]
     
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    also Carlos Delfino is another one in that draft class that has a ring. he also forgot someone else his own teammate Jason Kapono[​IMG]
     
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    he also forgot someone else his own teammate Jason Kapono [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">the NBA picks and chose who will be their most money makers so thats y they do not say anything about him</div>



    Man you aint really suggesting Kirk Hinrich is up there with Dwyane Wade and Lebron James right? These guys are being compared to the greatest players to ever play in the League. Kirk Hinrich would be lucky for a comparison with Mark Price. (no disrespect to Mark Price; he was a hell of a guard in his prime)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Man you aint really suggesting Kirk Hindrich is up there with Dwyane Wade and Lebron James right? These guys are being compared to the greatest players to ever play in the League. Kirk Hindrich would be lucky for a comparison with Mark Price. (no disrespect to Mark Price; he was a hell of a guard in his prime)</div>
    I'm saying he is one of the elite players from that draft class , am I suggesting he is as good as Lebron or Wade? Of course not, but with the numbers he has averaged through his first three years in the league does he deserved to be called one of the better players in the draft, and to be mentioned amidst the elite of that class. Like I said people have been talking about Howard as one of the better players from that class, but not mentioned Hinrich?s name despite him averaging better numbers in several categories. Also your acting like Hinrich is some type of scrub, but he has received several comparisons to Steve Nash, by NBA analysts.
     
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    kirk doesnt get any respect...its a shame. Kirk is the best PG in that whole draft, and is probaly the most fundamental...hes plays the best D too...it sucks that he is overshadowed by flashy plays by other draftees
     
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    Dwayne Wade 27.2 ppg 49.5% 5.7 reb 6.7 ast 1.95 stl .77 blk

    Lebron James
    31.4 ppg 48.0% 7.0 reb 6.6 ast 1.56 stl .84 blk


    <u>Steve Nash</u>
    18.8 ppg 51.2 % 4.2 reb 10.5 ast .77 stl .15 blk

    <font color=""DarkRed"">Kirk Hindrich</font>
    15.9 ppg 41.8% 3.6 reb 6.3 ast 1.16 stl .26 blk
     
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    ^^no d in hinrich (no pun intended)

    and those numbers look great wheres howards stats?
     
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    hinrich is usually on the other teams top guard, thus he has to expend a lot more energy on defense than all of those players, which of course would affect his stats
     

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