J.R. Smith To Orlando

Would it be worth Orlando considering to make an attempt to get JR Smith I'm sure Orlando has a few players that NO would be interested in, and knowing JR Smiths and coach Scotts relationship they would be glad to get rid of him. He could probably start at SG and there would be more space for him with Deshawn trying to make it to Houston.

Please post me your thoughts

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bronbron23:</div><div class="quote_post">Would it be worth Orlando considering to make an attempt to get JR Smith I'm sure Orlando has a few players that NO would be interested in, and knowing JR Smiths and coach Scotts relationship they would be glad to get rid of him. He could probably start at SG and there would be more space for him with Deshawn trying to make it to Houston.

Please post me your thoughts</div>

There was talks about this around the deadline and I don't think any of us actually want him. He has a bad attitude and that's one thing you don't need when you have young guys like Jameer, Dwight, and Darko. You want them to be around hard workers. I don't really have a problem getting him if we trade someone of equal price or value. I don't know if there's really anyone on the Magic that I would currently trade for him other than Fran and Stevenson. (and even those are stretches)

 

I'd rather have had traded for him, and see how he worked out for the half of the season. Or maybe do that this year if hes in a contract year, maybe midway through.

I like JR and I think he has talent but his attitude might be a little bit off for what Orlando want's to do.

 

I think his attitude problem stemmed from his already shaky relationship with Bryron Scott. They didn't get along because JR wasn't getting playing time and that's a hard adjustment to make especially for a kid who came out of high school and is used to being "the man" everywhere he goes.

If he comes to Orlando, he will be our starting shooting guard so he wouldn't have any problems with minutes. We started DeShawn Stevenson for 82 games last year and he is in a similar situation. They both came out of highschool and struggled with playing time early on in their careers. Now that Stevenson is leaving, JR can come in and we can give him the same treatment Stevenson got. Right now Orlando has a bunch of young players so Smith would fit right in here.

While I didn't like the Smith trade before the deadline last season, I'm all for it now. Before the trading deadline, I was still thinking about winning right now. Now that we have a bunch of young guys and we are rebuilding, Smith could be the final piece we need. He has potential to be a superstar player and I say we take chance and go after him. He was in a bad situation with the Hornets and sometimes, a change of scenery is all a player needs to succeed (see Rasheed Wallace).

Also, Dwight Howard knows JR Smith and they get along so it would make sense for Smith to want to come here. Apparently, Dwight actually suggested that Smith he should jump to the NBA with him and Shaun Livingston. Here is an interview InsideHoops.com that talks about their relationship:

InsideHoops.com: Did people actually say to you that you should jump, or were you thinking it on your own?

J.R. Smith: People started telling me. Even the players started telling me, Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Shaun Livingston, Big Baby (Glenn Davis), everybody was just like "Yo, man, you just killed. You might as well go pro with us." So it was like, might as well. That's why I'm going to college anyway, to get an education but to get to the league anyway, so I figured this is just the quickest way.

InsideHoops.com: Is it almost like a club? A jump-to-NBA club with high school seniors, like the crew you just talked about. It's like you got invited by them to join the club.

J.R. Smith: Yeah, especially for us, because we always knew each other growing up together, playing AAU ball, so we've known each other for three, four, five years, growing up, so now it's like we're all brothers anyway, so we all go in together, we all show our best effort, and then they're going to say we were the best class ever. That's what we're trying to accomplish.
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They seem pretty close so I'm sure Smith would be happy here. If he can shape up his attitude (which I think he could playing with other young guys including one of his friends), I would love to have him in Orlando. Also, if we get JR Smith, we would have youth at every single position which is very promising for the future. Imagine this lineup in a couple of years:

PG: Jameer Nelson (24), Carlos Arroyo (26), Keyon Dooling (26)
SG: JR Smith (20), DeShawn Stevenson* (25), Ronnie Brewer** (21)
SF: Hedo Turkoglu (27), Trevor Ariza* (20), Carney/Brewer** (22/21)
PF: Dwight Howard (20), Fran Vazquez* (23), Tony Battie (30)
C: Darko Milicic (20), Tony Battie (30), Mario Kasun* (26)
*If the player remains with the team
**If the player is drafted

This would be a very good roster and all of our top players would be in their primes at the same time. We would have a starting lineup of players in their primes and then have veteren role players like Hedo, Battie, and Arroyo coming off the bench. I left Grant Hill off of the roster because chances are, he won't be with us for more than one season. I love this lineup and I think if we have a chance to get JR Smith without giving up too much, we should pull the trigger.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Orlando Sentinel - The Magic are in the market for shooting guard and the Orlando Sentinel is reporting that the club is rumored to have interest in New Orleans Hornets shooting guard J.R. Smith, who will be on the trading block.</div>
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Looks like it might happen after all.

 

Good I like J.R. he should come here and be a factor as he smoked us for what 30 one game in Orlando last year. He has a nice form and is explosive plus hes friends with Dwight and Ariza, so keeping the big guy happy is a must.

 

I wouldn't be dissapointed if we got Smith. He is capable of helping our team and he could even start at SG if our draft pick isn't ready to start. It's good because he is friends with Ariza and apparently Dwight too, so that is a plus.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PG: Jameer Nelson (24), Carlos Arroyo (26), Keyon Dooling (26)
SG: JR Smith (20), DeShawn Stevenson* (25), Ronnie Brewer** (21)
SF: Hedo Turkoglu (27), Trevor Ariza* (20), Carney/Brewer** (22/21)
PF: Dwight Howard (20), Fran Vazquez* (23), Tony Battie (30)
C: Darko Milicic (20), Tony Battie (30), Mario Kasun* (26)
*If the player remains with the team
**If the player is drafted</div>

Swish15, This is exactly what I was thinking in terms of the lineup if this happened for next season and they stayed together as a unit for a few years they could make a good run.

But on the other hand if the magic are thinking like GatorsowntheNCAA, then it's not going to happen, <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There was talks about this around the deadline and I don't think any of us actually want him. He has a bad attitude and that's one thing you don't need when you have young guys like Jameer, Dwight, and Darko. You want them to be around hard workers. I don't really have a problem getting him if we trade someone of equal price or value. I don't know if there's really anyone on the Magic that I would currently trade for him other than Fran and Stevenson. (and even those are stretches)</div>

 

Well the rumor is Pat Garrity and a 2nd, that is a low risk/high reward situation. I don't really see why they would do this, unless they are extremely desperate to get rid of him to an East team. Him and Byron Scott had a huge argument.

Also, I know Dwight is really good friends with Josh Smith, I'm not sure about JR Smith, but Josh Smith might have been the person you were thinking of.

 

Question: If you had two choices would you,

A: Re-Sign DeShawn Stevenson
-or-
B: Trade for JR Smith

I think this is how the Magic will look at things providing DeShawn Stevenson will re-sign and NO aren't looking for anything too big in return for JR Smith<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well the rumor is Pat Garrity and a 2nd, that is a low risk/high reward situation.</div>as Gatorstown stated.

 

I would rather have Smith over Stevenson because Stevenson doesn't even want to be here.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bronbron23:</div><div class="quote_post">Question: If you had two choices would you,

A: Re-Sign DeShawn Stevenson
-or-
B: Trade for JR Smith

I think this is how the Magic will look at things providing DeShawn Stevenson will re-sign and NO aren't looking for anything too big in return for JR Smithas Gatorstown stated.</div>

This is how I see it..

A: Resign Deshawn Stevenson
-or-
B: Trade for JR Smith AND resign Trevor Ariza

I would take #2. With the money that we gain from not signing Stevenson(who will likely demand 4-5 million dollars) we would get JR Smith($1,067,400) and be able to resign Ariza for 2-3 million and still save some money.

This would be a 1 year experiment with JR Smith, after this trade, the Magic would have a team option. If he disrupts the chemistry then we will just not pick up the option. If he changes his attitude and gets along well with Brian Hill and the Magic core then we will pick up his option.

So basically I see this as a low risk/high reward type scenario and I hope we take advantage of it.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I would rather have Smith over Stevenson because Stevenson doesn't even want to be here.</div>

Stevenson hasn't said that he doens't want to be here. He opted out of his deal so he can get more money, which isn't a surprise at all. I think he still wants to be in Orlando as long as we give him the MLE(or most of the MLE) like he wants us to. I wouldn't be opposed to giving him around 3.5-4 million, but anything over that is a no no to me.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I would rather have Smith over Stevenson because Stevenson doesn't even want to be here.</div>

Stevenson hasn't said that he doens't want to be here. He opted out of his deal so he can get more money, which isn't a surprise at all. I think he still wants to be in Orlando as long as we give him the MLE(or most of the MLE) like he wants us to. I wouldn't be opposed to giving him around 3.5-4 million, but anything over that is a no no to me.

 

J.R. Smith would be a gem in Orlando, he'd be another youthful player that would tear it up. I bet he can help shooting the ball to on dish outs from Dwight.

 

Smith obviously has incredible talent. The only question is does he have the work ethic to become a future star? Or will he become another Stromile Swift, raw talent that will show flashes, but never become that guy you know he can be. I think Smith next to Nelson can be one of the brightest young backcourts in the NBA if both keep their heads straight. Jameer is mature beyond his years, I’m not worried about him at all. Smith however seems to have this attitude about him where he thinks he is already a star, but in reality he is far from it.

Now I think this could also back fire on the Magic if Smith does not accept his role. He might begin to think he is the man, and as we all know a big mans role starts only after the guard gives him the ball. Smith might be the second coming to Steve Francis which could prevent Howard from getting his touches. If I’m the Magic management and I can get Smith for a bag of beans of course I make that move, but if the calling price is to high. I trade up a few spots and take either Brewer, Gay, or Roy.