Who Wins Game 5?

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  1. Intrepid1983

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting reeling:</div><div class="quote_post">LOL sorry it didn't have your fairy tale ending but he clearly was grabbed on the arm and it affected the game ending shot.</div>

    LOL FIIINNNEEE... but why does Wade have to get that foul shot with just under 2 seconds left when many other people in history haven't gotten that benefit.. why now? I bet the refs are gonna make it go to game 7 so they can make more money off of the fans, thats y they let heat win tonite, then they're gonna let Dallas win game 6 next game no matter how good the Heat plays
     
  2. The Dream

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    Dallas lost because they

    A. Missed key freethrows............AGAIN


    B. Called a timeout at the wrong time



    C. Didn't get the ball outta D Wade's hands............seriously when Wade was heating up at the end of the 3rd quarter, I just knew Avery was gonna come with a zone or a double team.............unfortunately for the mavs he didn't start doing that until overtime.
     
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    That wasn't bad defense, it was just Dwyane Wade being Dwyane Wade. It was a clear foul though just called on the wrong guy. Miami attacked the basket way more than Dallas did and that's why there was such a differencial in free throws. Also, Dallas went to the Hack-a-Shaq.
     
  4. ChicagoSportsFan

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    Im gonna say Miami. LOL!
     
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    Dallas only hope to win this series is to LET WADE SCORE. Do NOT let him go to the line.
    Cause then Dallas can get out in transition and get a run going.
    All year long, Dallas has been capable of piling up points when they run.
    Everytime you send Wade to the line, there goes your running game.
    There goes your Dirk defensive rebounding game.
    Who cares if Wade gets his 2? Dirk can snatch up the board, pass up the court to Terry and Dallas can equalize in a matter of seconds.
    Miami do not have the personnel to play in this style as well as Dallas.
    Avery should take a page out of the Mike D'Antoni book. Take the priority off defense for one game and just PUSH the ball.
     
  6. XSV

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    Lol, did anybody else see Avery rip apart that reporter in the post-game news conference? Told the guy to "stop stuttering" and absolutely embarassed the poor guy.

    Don't blame Howard for the loss. Even if he doesn't call the time-out, what are the chances they're going to make a miracle-shot with 1.8 left? Not good.
     
  7. The Dream

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    Yeah that was pretty funny....the guy who was asking the question (Eddie Shepko) used to be a beat writer in Houston during the championship days.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, did anybody else see Avery rip apart that reporter in the post-game news conference? Told the guy to "stop stuttering" and absolutely embarassed the poor guy.

    Don't blame Howard for the loss. Even if he doesn't call the time-out, what are the chances they're going to make a miracle-shot with 1.8 left? Not good.</div>

    Na i missed that, any one find a clip i looked on youtube but no louck
     
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    go to nba.com and look in the video section....you can look at all the postseason press conferences there.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting intrepid1983:</div><div class="quote_post">LOL FIIINNNEEE... but why does Wade have to get that foul shot with just under 2 seconds left when many other people in history haven't gotten that benefit.. why now? I bet the refs are gonna make it go to game 7 so they can make more money off of the fans, thats y they let heat win tonite, then they're gonna let Dallas win game 6 next game no matter how good the Heat plays</div> If others players in history didn't get the call when they were grabbed on the arm of the shooting hand with 2 seconds left then that is the ignorance of the refs and nothing more.

    Why is everyone making such a big deal about the timeout like it cost them the game? I think there is a very, very little chance they would have made the shot, the heat are excellent in those situations.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, did anybody else see Avery rip apart that reporter in the post-game news conference? Told the guy to "stop stuttering" and absolutely embarassed the poor guy.

    </div> Yeah and LOL at Wade not getting fouled, right but Nowitzki and Howard at the other end DID get fouled right???

    And who else saw Dirk trying to lessen what Wade did during the playoffs when the smart-ass reporter was like "What do you think about Wade getting to the free throw line as much as your whole team?" and Dirk was like "Yeah give him credit, hes been doing it all playoffs" Oh right asshole? Thats why besides that game during the playoffs you've been averaging more freethrow attempts per game than Wade???? Man I wish I was there to call them out on their idiotic remarks when they don't even realize what has gone on during the game.

    And its not Wades fault, in game 5 he took about 45%(more since they don't count missed shots when fouled as a field goal attempt) of the teams shots and about 51% of the teams free throws. Very little descrepency there.
     
  12. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Also, Howard got a rather bogus call with less than 1 mins left in OT, which he missed both. So, it's not like Heat always got a break.

    I also would like to see the game decided by last jumper, but if Howard didn't make that time out call, the game would have decided by the last jumper...</div>

    I agree the foul call on Shaq after Howard's shot went up already was another bogus call.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't blame Howard for the loss. Even if he doesn't call the time-out, what are the chances they're going to make a miracle-shot with 1.8 left? Not good.</div>

    How is it a miracle shot? The Mavericks would have gotten the ball on the other side of the court after the timeout. 1.8 seconds is PLENTY of time in the NBA and you can get a very decent shot off.

    Howard isn't to blame for the loss but his team had no chance to win after his mistake. He cost them a shot at the game winning basket.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting reeling:</div><div class="quote_post">

    And who else saw Dirk trying to lessen what Wade did during the playoffs when the smart-ass reporter was like "What do you think about Wade getting to the free throw line as much as your whole team?" and Dirk was like "Yeah give him credit, hes been doing it all playoffs" Oh right asshole? Thats why besides that game during the playoffs you've been averaging more freethrow attempts per game than Wade???? Man I wish I was there to call them out on their idiotic remarks when they don't even realize what has gone on during the game.
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    Wade got more freethrows than the entire Mavericks team. think about that for a second. no, no...dont respond. not yet. i just want you to run that in your head for a good few seconds.

    Wade (as in ONE player) took more free throws than the ENTIRE mavericks team (like 10 players).

    now you tell me, you realllly think that's fair? You think Dirk is an ass for being angry about it?

    the call at the end was not abysmal in and of itself other than the fact that in 99% of games refs wont make that call at the end of the game like that. Whats worse was the fact that it was reflective of calls they made the entire game, but only for one of the two teams. Its not quite as bad as the calls Kobe has gotten in the playoffs throughout his career but its still something youd rather not see.

    The NBA would probably prefer to see the heat win. If I'm David Stern Im figuring, "hey, Dallas is pretty fun to watch but they're gonna have plenty more chances to win it all in the next few years. With a roster full of aging players with big contracts, this could be Miami's only chance. It would be benefitial for the league to see Wade get a ring now while he has the chance. It will make the increasing hype surrounding him seem more legitamate and set up the Wade/Lebron rivalry to take on epic proportions for years to come". Im not saying theyre going to or that they even could rig this series but we all know that the league will favor certain teams and that those teams will get certain calls that the other team wont get. You probably wont see such a ref bias in game 6 just because when the finals goes 7 games its good for everybody so the refs will probably call it pretty evenly which gives the Mavs the edge. If game 7 comes down to the last couple minutes though it could be a little scary to see what the refs do with their whistles. Its a tough position for them because you cant just let them hammer the hell out of each other. At SOME point you have to call the foul but it will be interesting to see what point that is
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">Wade got more freethrows than the entire Mavericks team. think about that for a second. no, no...dont respond. not yet. i just want you to run that in your head for a good few seconds.

    Wade (as in ONE player) took more free throws than the ENTIRE mavericks team (like 10 players).

    now you tell me, you realllly think that's fair? You think Dirk is an ass for being angry about it?

    the call at the end was not abysmal in and of itself other than the fact that in 99% of games refs wont make that call at the end of the game like that. Whats worse was the fact that it was reflective of calls they made the entire game, but only for one of the two teams. Its not quite as bad as the calls Kobe has gotten in the playoffs throughout his career but its still something youd rather not see.

    The NBA would probably prefer to see the heat win. If I'm David Stern Im figuring, "hey, Dallas is pretty fun to watch but they're gonna have plenty more chances to win it all in the next few years. With a roster full of aging players with big contracts, this could be Miami's only chance. It would be benefitial for the league to see Wade get a ring now while he has the chance. It will make the increasing hype surrounding him seem more legitamate and set up the Wade/Lebron rivalry to take on epic proportions for years to come". Im not saying theyre going to or that they even could rig this series but we all know that the league will favor certain teams and that those teams will get certain calls that the other team wont get. You probably wont see such a ref bias in game 6 just because when the finals goes 7 games its good for everybody so the refs will probably call it pretty evenly which gives the Mavs the edge. If game 7 comes down to the last couple minutes though it could be a little scary to see what the refs do with their whistles. Its a tough position for them because you cant just let them hammer the hell out of each other. At SOME point you have to call the foul but it will be interesting to see what point that is</div>


    This is why they called a foul.........His arm wasnt slapped. IT WAS GRABBED!!!

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    Dallas Got 2 freethrows for no reason the play before and you cry about a legit foul? WOW. A foul is a foul. And Tim was fouled at the end of game 7. That was a no call, you got that break. Now your crying because the refs wont let you foul (and get away with it) to prevent a loss. Try not fouling during a game winning shot. Whats funny is if wade wouldve missed the freethrows you would say that it was a good foul.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">This is why they called a foul.........His arm wasnt slapped. IT WAS GRABBED!!!

    [​IMG] Im not even a mavericks fan. I was routing for the spurs in that series. Tim may hvae been fouled but like I said, refs shouldnt, and almost always dont make that call at the end of a game like that unless a guy really gets hammered. that photo makes it look like Wade at worst got lightly brushed on the forearm. In reallity it was probably more like he got slapped on it. Was it a foul? of course. that doesnt nessecacrily mean ti was right to call it
     
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    Stop hating on Wade, people just need to learn to suck it up for real.

    It was a loss, that could've gone either ways.

    All I have left to say is Wade is the best basketball player I've ever witnessed with my eyes. (I'm only 17).
     
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    ^^^^not a bad way to be broken into the game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">who's crying? Was it a foul? of course. that doesnt nessecacrily mean it was right to call it</div>

    LOL!
     
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    I feel bad for the refs. they get bitched at when they make the wrong calls, and when they make a correct call, they still get bitched at. Wade was grabbed, and also Harris stuck out his knee. He would not have missed that lay-up THAT badly if he wasn't legitimately fouled.
     

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