The Jordan Conspiracy: Dwyane Wade And The Phantom Foul

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  1. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">He's played 13 seasons and has been one of the best defensive players in the past 15 years, he has given his heart and soul to this franchise that's why wwe want him to get a ring.</div>
    He seemed pretty anxious to abandon the Heat when they were a lottery team. Zo's all about himself.

    I hate how he acted as if the contract he had with the Nets had a clause that made sure the Nets were a contending team. He's not the only player to screw over a team for selfish reasons (although I don't know any who have screwed two successively), but he still whines about the Nets for some reason. He got a huge (undeserved) payday and somehow got to join whatever team he felt like. There's nothing to complain about, but every so often we have to hear him beat that dead horse again.
     
  2. WadeDynasty

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting yudalicious:</div><div class="quote_post">The foul was called on Dirk, not Harris. I'm assuming the foul was because Dirk had his hand on Wade's back, from watching the replay, in my opinion, there was no evidence that Dirk's hand shoved Wade enough to cause him to miss the shot. Especially considering that Wade drove against 3 ppl, flipped up a circus shot. No way should you get a bail out call like that because of Dirk's hand on your back, not in a pivotal game in the NBA finals. Now, had the foul been called on Harris, that would've been a different story.

    I don't think there's a conspiracy, but it sure seems to me that the ref(s) totally missed the foul on Harris, but regardless of that, called an imaginary foul on Dirk that never happened. I had picked Miami to win so I was rooting for them. But after what happened last night I almost wish the Mavs would win game 6.</div>
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    Now let's continue this debate.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Dream:</div><div class="quote_post">Please tell me a Kobe fan isn't complaining about superstar calls?</div>
    It's ironically coming from a Lakers fan.
     
  3. XSV

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    ^He's got a hold of Wade's body he clearly pushed a little to disrupt Wade's balance.
     
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    Let me explain to all of you why Dwyane Wade was great against the pistons and mavs:

    1. If you guard him loosely, he would step back and hit the shot.
    2. If you breathed on him, the refs would call the fall.
    3. If you doubled him, he would dump it to shaq and shaq would get the dunk.
     
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    If you know who wrote that article tell him that HE's MAD!

    Wade got the calls and it is what it is. The Mavericks still were giving up 35 points a game to him, and they couldn't stop him if their lives depended on it. Thats why they lost, not because of a few questionable calls.

    Don't complain about how much Wade was getting to the line either, because most of the time he went to the line 90% of the time he earned his right to the line. Unlike a lot of Mavs players (Dirk), Dywane doesn't settle for jumpers all the time. As a matter of fact thats the prime reason why the Mavs got to the line as little as they did, guys like Terry, Dirk, Howard (he isn't as bad), Stackhouse etc all like settling for jumpers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">If you know who wrote that article tell him that HE's MAD!

    Wade got the calls and it is what it is. The Mavericks still were giving up 35 points a game to him, and they couldn't stop him if their lives depended on it. Thats why they lost, not because of a few questionable calls.

    Don't complain about how much Wade was getting to the line either, because most of the time he went to the line 90% of the time he earned his right to the line. Unlike a lot of Mavs players (Dirk), Dywane doesn't settle for jumpers all the time. As a matter of fact thats the prime reason why the Mavs got to the line as little as they did, guys like Terry, Dirk, Howard (he isn't as bad), Stackhouse etc all like settling for jumpers.</div>

    Another reason is the Hack a Shaq brought the Heat into the bonus much earlier, so any foul even not shooting foul would be FT's.
     
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    "Wade got the calls and it is what it is. The Mavericks still were giving up 35 points a game to him, and they couldn't stop him if their lives depended on it. Thats why they lost, not because of a few questionable calls.

    Don't complain about how much Wade was getting to the line either, because most of the time he went to the line 90% of the time he earned his right to the line. Unlike a lot of Mavs players (Dirk), Dywane doesn't settle for jumpers all the time. As a matter of fact thats the prime reason why the Mavs got to the line as little as they did, guys like Terry, Dirk, Howard (he isn't as bad), Stackhouse etc all like settling for jumpers."

    The refs award individualism since they can make more money off of it, regardless of watching the NBA replays where every time wade got the ball it was a foul, that is how the nba works, it was done for Kobe as well. They don't award team play. It's just how it is, no point in arguing because no one listens. Wade is amazing, that's why the refs game him every call possible, that's that
     
  9. Bahir

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    I just gotta say this... I just looked at the highlights from game 5 of the finals, and the backcourt violation Dwayne Wade did in the final seconds in the game (right before the play this thread is about) is a humonguos violation if there ever was one. He jumped from the opponents courtside (which would mean that his pivot foot would be counted as it was on that side), and in mid air, he caught the ball, which was thrown from the same side. Then he landed on his own team's side of the court. I don't know how much the NBA rules differ from normal basketball rules, but that *has to* be a violation of the rules.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bahir:</div><div class="quote_post">I just gotta say this... I just looked at the highlights from game 5 of the finals, and the backcourt violation Dwayne Wade did in the final seconds in the game (right before the play this thread is about) is a humonguos violation if there ever was one. He jumped from the opponents courtside (which would mean that his pivot foot would be counted as it was on that side), and in mid air, he caught the ball, which was thrown from the same side. Then he landed on his own team's side of the court. I don't know how much the NBA rules differ from normal basketball rules, but that *has to* be a violation of the rules.</div>

    It's not a violation. The NBA already cleared that up.

    In the last 2 minutes of a quarter, the position on an inbounds pass is only established once the player receives the ball and his feet on the ground. It was a legal play.

    As for all the fouls Wade drew, the guy got the typical superstar calls. Same calls Kobe, McGrady, LeBron, or even Nowitzki get. He was just extremely aggressive, didn't settle for the outside jumper, was able to get past his guy seemingly at will, and he accepted the contact.

    The fouls that were called were the same type of fouls the NBA has been calling all season for the star players. Wade, to his credit, was able to take advantage of that.
     
  11. Bobcats

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    What are all the Wade haters going to complain about now? They said he wasn't fouled, when their is visual evidence that he was. They said that he committed a backcourt violation, but the NBA cleared that up and already said it wasn't. What else do the Wade haters have?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">What are all the Wade haters going to complain about now? They said he wasn't fouled, when their is visual evidence that he was. They said that he committed a backcourt violation, but the NBA cleared that up and already said it wasn't. What else do the Wade haters have?</div>
    They got nothing. Period.
    Meanwhile, Wade has the ultimate dream of an NBA player.
    They just tryin' to make Heat's title look not so legit.
     
  13. AIRTIGHT

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    The threads end very quickly once you produce and quantify actual evidence.

    But yea, that was a hell of a clutch play by Wade to even get to the basket to get that shot off. I remember watching it thinking " what the hell is he doin; going to the backcourt and shi- he just threw the damn game away". That was a true legendary performace. 1.7 left on that right? Yeah- dude is in a class of his own in this league today. I see in the last 25 years maybe 3 or 4 players making that play happen---- and here are these clowns on here hating on the man.
     
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    At first i thought that wade was bailed out, but after seeing the pics, and stuff i changed my mind. and i also thought. if he wasnt fouled, then how did he miss such an easy layup? i mean he had a clear path and wade is amazing at finishing near the hoop. just my two cents.

    And Airtight, quit saying that "these threads sure end quickly when you use facts" how many times have you even posted in this thread?
     
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    enough to see it 'sure end quickly'. And where you been at man- I keep waiting for you to post back on that Where's Kobe Rank thread; I've stated this in like 3 other threads you frequently post in --- you havent replied about Nowitzki Vs Bird
     
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    i cant find em? and the kobe ones all look the same to me, i cant remember which ones are which [​IMG]
     
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    Howard also received rather bogus call less than a min left in OT. Howard missed both FTs, Wade made both FTs, Howard made a dumb time out call and Heat won by 1 pts. I don't know how some people thought of conspiracy theory for game 5, when there were number of easy things Dallas could have done to save themselves in that game...
     

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