Finals MVP? That's great. I'm not taking anything away from the man's game. He's showed me and everyone else that he's the real deal. He's a superstar and he derserved the MVP. But starting to talk about him being the best player ever is complete bull to da ****. Dwyane Wade is great, but let's face it, the guy's team was better than a lot of the other superstars out there('Bron,Kobe,etc.) Let's not forget, Bron carried that piece of **** team all the way to the 2nd round and almost beat the Pistons. I hate to say it, but Bron and the boys softned up the Pistons for Wade. Kobe carried his shity ass team with not inside game what so ever and almost beat the great Phoenix Suns. Wade had a legendary coach in Pat Riley, a legendary player in Shaq, and a cast full of hungery veterans who came up and produced in the playoffs. If Kobe or 'Bron were to be put in the situation, you can't stop and say that there would never be a championship for them.
I don't know what you are talking about Kobe's cast not being anything. He had a superstar on his team in Lamar Odom. Just ask any of the Laker fans who think that Odom is worth Hinrich, #2 and #16.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">Finals MVP? That's great. I'm not taking anything away from the man's game. He's showed me and everyone else that he's the real deal. He's a superstar and he derserved the MVP. But starting to talk about him being the best player ever is complete bull to da ****. Dwyane Wade is great, but let's face it, the guy's team was better than a lot of the other superstars out there('Bron,Kobe,etc.) Let's not forget, Bron carried that piece of **** team all the way to the 2nd round and almost beat the Pistons. I hate to say it, but Bron and the boys softned up the Pistons for Wade. Kobe carried his shity ass team with not inside game what so ever and almost beat the great Phoenix Suns. Wade had a legendary coach in Pat Riley, a legendary player in Shaq, and a cast full of hungery veterans who came up and produced in the playoffs. If Kobe or 'Bron were to be put in the situation, you can't stop and say that there would never be a championship for them.</div> Man what's with the hate so early? relax and chill a bit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Lamar Odom....superstar?? I think your going a little overboard.</div> Well Laker fans expect to get a superstar or a superstar package in return for Odom, so he must be a superstar. There's trade rumors in the Lakers forum that involves the Lakers getting close to the same for Odom then the rumors that the Twolves could get for KG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">Well Laker fans expect to get a superstar or a superstar package in return for Odom, so he must be a superstar. There's trade rumors in the Lakers forum that involves the Lakers getting close to the same for Odom then the rumors that the Twolves could get for KG.</div> Yea but most of us know he isn't a superstar and trading him, will not get them a superstar.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">Finals MVP? That's great. I'm not taking anything away from the man's game. He's showed me and everyone else that he's the real deal. He's a superstar and he derserved the MVP. But starting to talk about him being the best player ever is complete bull to da ****. Dwyane Wade is great, but let's face it, the guy's team was better than a lot of the other superstars out there('Bron,Kobe,etc.) Let's not forget, Bron carried that piece of **** team all the way to the 2nd round and almost beat the Pistons. I hate to say it, but Bron and the boys softned up the Pistons for Wade. Kobe carried his shity ass team with not inside game what so ever and almost beat the great Phoenix Suns. Wade had a legendary coach in Pat Riley, a legendary player in Shaq, and a cast full of hungery veterans who came up and produced in the playoffs. If Kobe or 'Bron were to be put in the situation, you can't stop and say that there would never be a championship for them.</div> You sure are a bright one. Apparently, you know more about the NBA than Shaq, Riley and Billups. I'd sure like to meet you one day. I mean, the guy onle put up lik 35 ,7 and 4 in his first finals and won the MVP, he's so much worse than Kobe and Lebron who've never won Finals MVP. And he did it with an aging Shaq, while Kobe did it with Shaq in his prime. Can you believe that? Kobe is soooo much better isn't he. Not to mention he only shot like almost 70% against the best defense in the league, that sucks. I'm sure Lebron could have done better if he wanted to.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea but most of us know he isn't a superstar and trading him, will not get them a superstar.</div> Dude he's being sarcastic.
Okay, this seems very random, was there a previous argument about him being the best player in the league? He is in the Top 5, and one of the best players in the league along with Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, and Dirk Nowitzki, but I'm not sure how this came up. Also I don't understand how you soften a team for someone. So who softened New Jersey and Dallas for Wade?
Wow, why can't people leave the kid be? He might not have been the best player all year, but he dame sure is right now. You put Kobe in this situation and he and Shaq will end up tearing his head off. Shut up and let the fans enjoy their moment.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">You sure are a bright one. Apparently, you know more about the NBA than Shaq, Riley and Billups. I'd sure like to meet you one day. I mean, the guy onle put up lik 35 ,7 and 4 in his first finals and won the MVP, he's so much worse than Kobe and Lebron who've never won Finals MVP. And he did it with an aging Shaq, while Kobe did it with Shaq in his prime. Can you believe that? Kobe is soooo much better isn't he. Not to mention he only shot like almost 70% against the best defense in the league, that sucks. I'm sure Lebron could have done better if he wanted to.</div> Listen up and listen reall good aight. Kobe took that shity ass team all the way to the playoffs BY HIMSELF. LeBron did the same. If Bron was in the finals this year, YOU KNOW he would've put up the same numbers. And about Shaq? Shaq was a HUGE part in the series with Detroit. He was dropping 30 10.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay, this seems very random, was there a previous argument about him being the best player in the league? He is in the Top 5, and one of the best players in the league along with Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, and Dirk Nowitzki, but I'm not sure how this came up. Also I don't understand how you soften a team for someone. So who softened New Jersey and Dallas for Wade?</div> Check the Lakers and Cavs and Heat forums. There's arguments comparing the players and the fans of each team are defending their guy of course. I don't really understand the point of comparing all of them to figure out which is the best out of all of them. They are all amazing players, just enjoy watching them play. Why does it matter what people on a message board think? The comparisons just turns into a huge flamewar and gets absolutely nothing accomplished, other than to add more posts to your post counts. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">Listen up and listen reall good aight. Kobe took that shity ass team all the way to the playoffs BY HIMSELF. LeBron did the same. If Bron was in the finals this year, YOU KNOW he would've put up the same numbers. And about Shaq? Shaq was a HUGE part in the series with Detroit. He was dropping 30 10.</div> So Wade shooting nearly 70% against them is invalid because Shaq was dropping "30 and 10". When in fact he had one game in which he got 30 points throughout hte playoffs and that was against the Bulls.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">Listen up and listen reall good aight. Kobe took that shity ass team all the way to the playoffs BY HIMSELF. LeBron did the same. If Bron was in the finals this year, YOU KNOW he would've put up the same numbers. And about Shaq? Shaq was a HUGE part in the series with Detroit. He was dropping 30 10.</div> Maybe he dropped close to those numbers 1 game. Bottom line is, how many 'chips does lebron have? Oh and how many finals MVPs does Kobe have? That's right. It's too bad Kobe can't get along with his teammates, or Shaq might have stayed. So did Kobe put up Wade's number against Phoenix? No. Did Lebron put up Wade's numbers while shooting almost 70% against Detroit. Ahhhhh I DONT THINK SO! Quit hatin' and just bow down to Wade, the dude's the best there is right now.
before This Turns Into A Flame War, Everybody Calm Down And Read What They Wrote Before They Post It.
I tell all of you exactly why I'm doing this. I'm just cutting the middle man out. We all know that everybody is going to start the Dwyane Wade dick sucking and begin the comparasion with MJ. That just pisses me off. Because LeBron and Kobe SINGLE HANDEDLY brought their shitty ass teams to the playoffs. I love Dwayne Wade. I really do. He's amazing and he's a superstar, but this is exactly why I didn't want the Heat to win. Because people are going to start to say that this guy is the best in the league. Right now, sure you guys keep saying that. But by the time the season starts up again, a lot of people are going to start to talk about DWade as the best and that there is no one even close to him right now. When I heard it from Greg Anthony, I turn the TV right away. Because I knew some dumbass ESPN analyst would start to say that ****. DWade is great, but he's not the best. LeBron and Kobe me showed me more this season then what DWade has this season....YEAH I SAID IT!
First off, don't pretend that you like Wade, because you clearly don't. I'm not saying that Lebron and Kobe's efforts weren't great, but Wade's were greater. He won MVP. As of now, I consider him a better player than Lebron, and just as good if not better than Kobe. Wade beat the Pistons and won the championship with an aging Shaq, something Kobe couldn't do with a dominant one. And I'm sure you know more than an ESPN analyst, someone who is around the league everyday...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post"> He's a superstar and he derserved the MVP. But starting to talk about him being the best player ever is complete bull to da ****. </div> Who's saying he's the best ever? Wade was phenomenal in the Finals. Absolutely brilliant. He literally carried the Heat on his back during the fourth quarter in two or three of these games. You can't take that away from him.
Yeah sure, Shaq is aging, but he's a huge part of why Dwade is Dwade. You're telling me that if 'Bron got drafted to the Heat and Wade got drafted to Cavs, that the Cavs would win a championship and Wade would be the best in the league?
