[quote name='Eclipse']Stop saying Lebron has a sh**** a** team. He has an all-star center in Ilgauskas and has an all-star guard in Hughes. Neither of them played well in the playoffs but that doesn't mean that they're not very good players. Add in the fact that they have a very decent players in Gooden and Marshall. I wouldn't call that a s**t team. QUOTE] OH PLEASE, CUT THE FUCKING ****! Zyndrunas Igauskas!!!!! You just lost all of your crediblity. 'Bron makes that guy look good. And Larry Hughes was gone the whole season and when he came back he didn't do ****. Gooden got benched in the clutch because Varejoe was playin' better than him. And all Donyell Marshall does is sit in that corner while LeBron get's quadrupled teamed. Then Bron dishes it out to him and he makes a three pointer now and then. If Dwade was on the cavs, they'd be in the lottery. If dwade was on the lakers, they'd be in the lottery. Again, DWade is a great player, but he's not the best in the NBA and he SURE AS HELL isn't the next MJ. But this will all change, it's only a matter of time. When Bron takes his crappy ass team to the championship by himself, were going to start to talk about LBJ being the next Jordan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Eclipse']Stop saying Lebron has a sh**** a** team. He has an all-star center in Ilgauskas and has an all-star guard in Hughes. Neither of them played well in the playoffs but that doesn't mean that they're not very good players. Add in the fact that they have a very decent players in Gooden and Marshall. I wouldn't call that a s**t team. </div> OH PLEASE, CUT THE FUCKING SHIIT! Zyndrunas Igauskas!!!!! You just lost all of your crediblity. 'Bron makes that guy look good. And Larry Hughes was gone the whole season and when he came back he didn't do ****. Gooden got benched in the clutch because Varejoe was playin' better than him. And all Donyell Marshall does is sit in that corner while LeBron get's quadrupled teamed. Then Bron dishes it out to him and he makes a three pointer now and then. If Dwade was on the cavs, they'd be in the lottery. If dwade was on the lakers, they'd be in the lottery. Again, DWade is a great player, but he's not the best in the NBA and he SURE AS HELL isn't the next MJ. But this will all change, it's only a matter of time. When Bron takes his crappy ass team to the championship by himself, were going to start to talk about LBJ being the next Jordan.
virve119 i meant any gam shaq can be a 20 and 10 guy if he wanted to he plays robin to wades batman. Also yao is not better than shaq yao is to soft.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Chuck~Taylor'] But this will all change, it's only a matter of time. When Bron takes his crappy ass team to the championship by himself, were going to start to talk about LBJ being the next Jordan.</div> Why does everyone want to be the next Jordan? Why can't they be Lebron James or Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade? Just let the players be themselves and stop trying to get someone to imitate Jordan, no one will be ever be Jordan. (someone might be better, but they won't be Jordan)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Chuck~Taylor'] OH PLEASE, CUT THE FUCKING SHIIT! Zyndrunas Igauskas!!!!! You just lost all of your crediblity. 'Bron makes that guy look good. And Larry Hughes was gone the whole season and when he came back he didn't do ****. Gooden got benched in the clutch because Varejoe was playin' better than him. And all Donyell Marshall does is sit in that corner while LeBron get's quadrupled teamed. Then Bron dishes it out to him and he makes a three pointer now and then. If Dwade was on the cavs, they'd be in the lottery. If dwade was on the lakers, they'd be in the lottery. Again, DWade is a great player, but he's not the best in the NBA and he SURE AS HELL isn't the next MJ. But this will all change, it's only a matter of time. When Bron takes his crappy ass team to the championship by himself, were going to start to talk about LBJ being the next Jordan.</div> Oh and I forgot to mention, the coaching job by Mike Brown, the Cavs coach, is widely overrated. Everyone knows that this guy can't coach. The things that he did in the playoffs had many people scratching their heads. But 'Bron erased all of that with his play. If Bron had Pat Riley..........well, you know the rest. But I'll say this again, this will all change next year. 'Bron is going to come back with a vengance. Expect 35 8 10 type of season from him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Chuck~Taylor'] Oh and I forgot to mention, the coaching job by Mike Brown, the Cavs coach, is widely overrated. Everyone knows that this guy can't coach. The things that he did in the playoffs had many people scratching their heads. But 'Bron erased all of that with his play. If Bron had Pat Riley..........well, you know the rest. But I'll say this again, this will all change next year. 'Bron is going to come back with a vengance. Expect 35 8 10 type of season from him.</div> If you are so sure of all of this changing, why do you feel the need to tarnish Wade's achievements-let the kid have some props? Why don't you just wait until your time comes to brag about Lebron, since you are so sure of it?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Chuck~Taylor'] If you are so sure of all of this changing, why do you feel the need to tarnish Wade's achievements-let the kid have some props? Why don't you just wait until your time comes to brag about Lebron, since you are so sure of it?</div> Because I know for a fact, that this summer, everyone is going to start to talk about Wade "no doubt" being the best player in the league and better than Jordan. I'm just cutting the middle man out. I can't wait till next season, because Kobe and 'Bron will be the only two competitors for the MVP. And by the way, now that the Heat have the title, alll the pressure comes off Detroit, beacuse they're not the champs anymore, it's the heat. The pistons play their best when they are the underdogs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='GatorsowntheNCAA'] Because I know for a fact, that this summer, everyone is going to start to talk about Wade "no doubt" being the best player in the league and better than Jordan. I'm just cutting the middle man out. I can't wait till next season, because Kobe and 'Bron will be the only two competitors for the MVP. And by the way, now that the Heat have the title, alll the pressure comes off Detroit, beacuse they're not the champs anymore, it's the heat. The pistons play their best when they are the underdogs.</div> If you know for a fact that that will happen, then why don't you say it once in an already created thread or put it in your sig and then when the time comes you can say I told you so, rather than posting a thread discrediting Wade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='GatorsowntheNCAA'] Because I know for a fact, that this summer, everyone is going to start to talk about Wade "no doubt" being the best player in the league and better than Jordan. I'm just cutting the middle man out. I can't wait till next season, because Kobe and 'Bron will be the only two competitors for the MVP. And by the way, now that the Heat have the title, alll the pressure comes off Detroit, beacuse they're not the champs anymore, it's the heat. The pistons play their best when they are the underdogs.</div> Exactly and everyone will come after them espicially the pisons since shaq guarenteed a repeat that not happening.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ManHops23:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Chuck~Taylor'] Exactly and everyone will come after them espicially the pisons since shaq guarenteed a repeat that not happening.</div> Ok, the Heat are NOT winning the championship next year. It's not going to happen. The NBA (Thank god) is now wide open again. I don't think were going to get any repeats for a while.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='ManHops23'] Ok, the Heat are NOT winning the championship next year. It's not going to happen. The NBA (Thank god) is now wide open again. I don't think were going to get any repeats for a while.</div> Until Lebron does it next year and the following year right?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post"> OH PLEASE, CUT THE FUCKING SHIIT! Zyndrunas Igauskas!!!!! You just lost all of your crediblity. 'Bron makes that guy look good. And Larry Hughes was gone the whole season and when he came back he didn't do ****. Gooden got benched in the clutch because Varejoe was playin' better than him. And all Donyell Marshall does is sit in that corner while LeBron get's quadrupled teamed. Then Bron dishes it out to him and he makes a three pointer now and then. If Dwade was on the cavs, they'd be in the lottery. If dwade was on the lakers, they'd be in the lottery. Again, DWade is a great player, but he's not the best in the NBA and he SURE AS HELL isn't the next MJ. But this will all change, it's only a matter of time. When Bron takes his crappy ass team to the championship by himself, were going to start to talk about LBJ being the next Jordan.</div> You know, you really sound like a troll. All you're doing is ranting and raving, but you're not putting forth any sort of argument. "If Dwade was on the Cavs they'd be in the lottery" is not an argument. Sorry.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">You know, you really sound like a troll. All you're doing is ranting and raving, but you're not putting forth any sort of argument. "If Dwade was on the Cavs they'd be in the lottery" is not an argument. Sorry.</div> What the hell are talking about? I said many other things. Read all of the stuff that I wrote. Bron has a shiity coach, none of his teammates can shoot or create their own shots,there's no one with an inside game, and he almost beat the Pistons.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">Man fans like you are exactly why I don't care for Kobe too much....Kobe gets his calls also....what do you think happened in game 6 of the 2002 WCF?????....so please stop....you look silly.</div> Well, if i am silly, half of the people who watched the NBA finals are silly. The fact is there are so many people outside this forum talking about how Wade got calls so easily throughout this series. Yea, they are all silly and you are the only expert. Why don't you go ESPN or FOX to be one of their Expert Analyst/writer and write out some of your "Expertise"????
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">What the hell are talking about? I said many other things. Read all of the stuff that I wrote. Bron has a shiity coach, none of his teammates can shoot or create their own shots,there's no one with an inside game, and he almost beat the Pistons.</div> The only thing you wrote that is true is that he almost beat the Pistons. Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall are good shooters. Eric Snow and Larry Hughes can create their own shots and shots for others. I wouldn't consider Mike Brown a shitty coach.(he's not at the level of fthe Riley's, but not ****). Z has been a multiple all-star, Drew Gooden is a good low post guy and Vareajeo isn't bad. He doesn't have aanything great, but it's not like he has absolutely nothing to work with.
Dwayne is not the best player in the NBA, but he sure is close. Lebron James is, we all can't argue that, the guy is incredible. He nearly took apart the Pistons by himself, but none of his teammates showed up for Game 7 against the Pistons. Wade is great and proved why he's one of the best, but James is still better, we'll see at the end of their careers... If you had to choose a player to add to your team, wouldn't you add LBJ?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">The only thing you wrote that is true is that he almost beat the Pistons. Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall are good shooters. Eric Snow and Larry Hughes can create their own shots and shots for others. I wouldn't consider Mike Brown a shitty coach.(he's not at the level of fthe Riley's, but not ****). Z has been a multiple all-star, Drew Gooden is a good low post guy and Vareajeo isn't bad. He doesn't have aanything great, but it's not like he has absolutely nothing to work with.</div> They didnt produce att all though. And yes, Mike Brown is a shiity coach. He almost lost a couple of games to the Wizards. And did you just say that Eric Snow can create his own shot? What the hell are you taking? Erick fuckking Snow? All Snow can do is defend, that's it. Larry Hughes didn't NOTHING for them this season. Gooden got outplayed by Varejeo but that dosn't make Varejeo solid. He's a hard worker and he get's some boards but that's pretty much it. James Posey,Antione Walker, Jason Williams,Shaq,and Alonzo Mourning are better than Zyndrunas Illgauskas,Drew Gooden,Varejeo, and Hughes. Simple as that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree that Kobe didn't get as much credit as he should have for those series', but give me a break. You don't think Detroit and Dallas' defenses weren't geared completely towards Wade? Johnson would throw in zones and other tricks just to stops Wade Did you watch any Heat games this season at all? Shaq was never a 20, 10 guy consistently. After Shaq's poor playoff performances, Yao is now the best center in the game. Yep, Kobe never gets superstar calls, ever does he. You give Laker fans a bad name dude. The point is, Kobe and Shaq could never get along, while Shaq visibly defers to Wade. Aren't you the same dude who said the Rockets would win the title this year, and were better than Dallas, Detroit, Miami, etc HANDS DOWN? There goes your credibility. While you are Just stubbornly saying "Kobe is better hands down" Durvasa is using stats and commom sense to support his arguments.</div> Zone defense is garbage, I hope the NBA gets rid of it to be honest with you. A zone defense isn't meant to stop an individual player. Sending aggressive double teams to get the ball out of a player's hands and creating a wall on the inside is the only way to do it. Avery Johnson used single coverage on DWade for most of the series, and I'm sure he's going to regret a lot of his decision making after he watches the game tape. In Game 5 when Wade was going bananas in the 4th quarter, Avery still left Devin Harris in single coverage on Wade. Then he leaves Adrian Griffin alone on the right side of the court to defend Wade from making the shot to tie up the game. The Mavs sent a double team a couple of times, but they backed off Wade and he just circled around and got the ball back. No one on the Mavs understood the concept of ball denial. In the Detroit series I think Wade was very effective because Tayshaun Prince doesn't bother him. Wade is just too fast for Prince to stay in front of, Kobe wasn't aggressive enough in the series and Prince's length had a lot to do with it. Wade was a lot more prepared in how to attack Detroit's defense, and his decision making was outstanding in the series.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">They didnt produce att all though. And yes, Mike Brown is a shiity coach. He almost lost a couple of games to the Wizards. And did you just say that Eric Snow can create his own shot? What the hell are you taking? Erick fuckking Snow? All Snow can do is defend, that's it. Larry Hughes didn't NOTHING for them this season. Gooden got outplayed by Varejeo but that dosn't make Varejeo solid. He's a hard worker and he get's some boards but that's pretty much it. James Posey,Antione Walker, Jason Williams,Shaq,and Alonzo Mourning are better than Zyndrunas Illgauskas,Drew Gooden,Varejeo, and Hughes. Simple as that.</div> <font color=""Red"">Watch the profanity, cursing doesn't help your argument.</font> Mike Brown is a young, inexperienced coach, but don't make him out to be a lousy one. I don't think anyone expected the Cavs to play this well in their first trip to the playoffs with LeBron. He had his team prepared and put LeBron in situations to succeed on the court. Pat Riley was the right coach for the Heat to get them to the championship level. He kept this team focused and made it clear on the sidelines he is the boss. He made some great adjustments in each series and didn't let his team unravel in Round 1 against the Bulls. Remember the Payton and Wade spat? Riley didn't step in at all and then work it out. A smart coach likes to see that competitive fire in their players and doesn't want to take that edge away from their games. Pat Riley was cool, calm, and collective and his poise carried over to his team.
