We won't know if Wade is better than LeBron until Shaq retires and we see how Wade handles being the number one option on a team. If Wade can still lead his team to the Finals, then I think he will crowned the king of the 2003 class.
I agree with swish i just wanna see how he does without shaq. So in my opinion lebron is slightly ahead in my opinion
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TopLake:</div><div class="quote_post">Wade + refs > Lebron</div> So you are telling me that Lebron doesn't get any calls? Wade, Lebron and Kobe all get a LOT of questionable calls. You can't possibly say anything about the refs in this argument if it's between Wade, Lebron, Kobe.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TopLake:</div><div class="quote_post">Wade + refs > Lebron</div> End of thread
Wade is also older than Lebron and will have a much shorter career because of the beatings he takes when he drives the ball. Lebron will accomplish more in his career, but at this point Wade has shown every ability of a constant superstar while Lebron has still to show that he is the complete player Wade is.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">So you are telling me that Lebron doesn't get any calls? Wade, Lebron and Kobe all get a LOT of questionable calls. You can't possibly say anything about the refs in this argument if it's between Wade, Lebron, Kobe.</div> I agree, but I still can't say Wade is better. It's very simple. If Wade was on the Lakers or the Cavs, they would be in the lottery. BUT, Wade is still the man. He won a championship in his third year that's somethin'. He's probably going to get the next SLAM cover or whatever and that's great. But 'Bron and Kobe are still the best in the league because what they did with their teams was amazing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">So you are telling me that Lebron doesn't get any calls? Wade, Lebron and Kobe all get a LOT of questionable calls. You can't possibly say anything about the refs in this argument if it's between Wade, Lebron, Kobe.</div> I agree they all get superstar calls, but that was too many for wade especially it 's the NBA finals!! Like in soccer, will the ref give out a penalty kick easily to either team in the last minute of the World Cup final game?!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree, but I still can't say Wade is better. It's very simple. If Wade was on the Lakers or the Cavs, they would be in the lottery. BUT, Wade is still the man. He won a championship in his third year that's somethin'. He's probably going to get the next SLAM cover or whatever and that's great. But 'Bron and Kobe are still the best in the league because what they did with their teams was amazing.</div> HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY WOULD BE IN THE LOTTERY? YOU DON'T, YOU NEVER WILL, SO STOP USING HYPOTHETICALS THAT WON'T EVER BE ANSWERED. All 3 players are different, just let them all be at the top, why do you have to name 1 player as the best. Can't their be a 3 way tie for the best? They are all in different circumstances, so it's nearly impossible to compare them and we have like 15 threads popping up every couple of minutes about who is better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">Wade is also older than Lebron and will have a much shorter career because of the beatings he takes when he drives the ball. Lebron will accomplish more in his career, but at this point Wade has shown every ability of a constant superstar while Lebron has still to show that he is the complete player Wade is.</div> So you're saying that wade is more of a complete player than lebron i doubt it did wade get a triple double in his first playoff game did wade average 31 points 7 boards and 6 assists. No wade is a complete player but not more complete than lebron.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TopLake:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree they all get superstar calls, but that was too many for wade especially it 's the NBA finals!! Like in soccer, will the ref give out a penalty kick easily to either team in the last minute of the World Cup final game?!</div> If the US is in the Finals then maybe they would.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY WOULD BE IN THE LOTTERY? YOU DON'T, YOU NEVER WILL, SO STOP USING HYPOTHETICALS THAT WON'T EVER BE ANSWERED. All 3 players are different, just let them all be at the top, why do you have to name 1 player as the best. Can't their be a 3 way tie for the best? They are all in different circumstances, so it's nearly impossible to compare them and we have like 15 threads popping up every couple of minutes about who is better.</div> OH PLEASE, DON'T GIVE ME THAT BULLSHIIT. Don't give me the "How would you know?" answer. You know damn straight that they would be in the lottery.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">OH PLEASE, DON'T GIVE ME THAT BULLSHIIT. Don't give me the "How would you know?" answer. You know damn straight that they would be in the lottery.</div> Actually I think they would make the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually I think they would make the playoffs.</div> You're done
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">You're done</div> How am I done? Wade has proven that he does whatever it takes to win a game. He is way more clutch then Lebron and is up in the Kobe level. Wade might not have gotten them the 4th seed, but we will never know. I'm pretty confident though that he could have made the Cavs team better than the Magic, Sixers or Pacers(#8-#10 teams in the East). Especially with the way the Magic started the season and the way the Sixers ended the season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting reeling:</div><div class="quote_post">I've always knew that and I usually hate this but i'm fine with it because Wade deserves these props and acknowlegments. But i'll just say that everyone jumps on the band-wagon. First Lebron is the best. Kobe is up 3-1 and hes MVP. Then Nash is mvp. Then Dirk. Then Hamilton is as good as Wade LOL. Then Dirk is the best. Then Avery is a better coach then Riley lol. Now Riley is the greatest coach ever. Now Wade is the best in the NBA(which he deserves). Come on now.</div> So true but DWade has the better supporting cast which is why the Heat won the title. LeBron almost single-handedly beat the top-ranked Pistons. LeBron doesn't have a Shaq, Alonzo Mourning, and as many good shooters as Miami does. But you can't say Drew Gooden is as good as Mourning now cmon.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">How am I done? Wade has proven that he does whatever it takes to win a game. He is way more clutch then Lebron and is up in the Kobe level. Wade might not have gotten them the 4th seed, but we will never know. I'm pretty confident though that he could have made the Cavs team better than the Magic, Sixers or Pacers(#8-#10 teams in the East). Especially with the way the Magic started the season and the way the Sixers ended the season.</div> LEBRON ALMOST SINGLE HANDEDLY TOOK OUT THE PISTONS. His coach is a nobody. His teammates can't shoot for shiit, there's no one with an inside game(Zyndrunas is not an all star), and no one else can make their own shot. We all thought that Larry was going to be that Pippen, but that never happened. If Larry Hughes played like he did when he was in Washington, the Pistons would've lost to the Cavs. And LeBron had 2 game winning shots in the first round. He was great in the 4th quarter.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Flava23:</div><div class="quote_post">So true but Dwyane Wade has the better supporting cast which is why the Heat won the title. LeBron almost single-handedly beat the top-ranked Pistons. LeBron doesn't have a Shaq, Alonzo Mourning, and as many good shooters as Miami does. You can't say Drew Gooden is as good as Mourning now cmon</div> Are you seroius? Drew Gooden had a much better year than Zo. Zo only played sparingly throughout the year, while Gooden had a big role in the Cavs success. Why does supporting cast matter if you are comparing the players? Compare the skill level and the players attributes, not skill level. If you are on that, Wade led a team with Odom into the playoffs and into the 2nd round his rookie year. He had who, Caron and Rasual Butler alongside them? Damon Jones?(he's considered crap in Cleveland)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck~Taylor:</div><div class="quote_post">LEBRON ALMOST SINGLE HANDEDLY TOOK OUT THE PISTONS. His coach is a nobody. His teammates can't shoot for shiit, there's no one with an inside game(Zyndrunas is not an all star), and no one else can make their own shot. We all thought that Larry was going to be that Pippen, but that never happened. If Larry Hughes played like he did when he was in Washington, the Pistons would've lost to the Cavs.</div> What does that have to do with Wade making the playoffs with the Cavs in your hypothetical?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">What does that have to do with Wade making the playoffs with the Cavs in your hypothetical?</div> If Wade was on the Cavs, that team would of never made the playoffs. It's very simple. They would of been in the lottery. If he was in the Lakers, they would of won 20 games.
