Matt Bonner traded The fan 590 just reported that Matt Bonner has been traded. They said that in an hour or two, there should be an announcement regarding where Matt has been traded. They also hinted that it might be to the Spurs for Oberto IMO this trade sucks. Bonner is a fan faviourate, and his contract is even pretty good.
There goes our best scorer off the bench. Trading him was inevitable as he doesn't have much of a future here other than the bench, but we better get someone useful in return.
wow that trade is surprizing. If its true that Bonner is traded, I want him to do well wherever he goes.
The official trade is Bonner, Eric Wuilliams, 2009 second round pick for Rasho Nesterovic. Good trade for the Raps getting a starting quality center for expendable pieces. http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/410...and_e_williams/
Raptors have acquired centre Rasho Nesterovic (RAH-show Neh-STARE-oh-vitch) and cash considerations from the San Antonio Spurs in exchange for forwards Eric Williams and Matt Bonner, and a 2009 second-round draft pick. I made this thread because Rasho is a bigger name than Bonner. http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/pressrelease_062106.html Rasho makes 7.2, 7.8, and 8.4 mill over the 2006/07, 2007/08, and 2008/09 seasons. Bonner would make 2 mill next year. Eric Williams would make 4.3 mill next year if he exercised his option. Pros: Dumped Eric Williams Finally have someone who is a natural center and shot blocker Cons: Lost fan favourite Bonner Unless Rasho plays big minutes we are probably overpaying him
I don't see how Toronto sees this as a good deal. The Spurs gained +6.3 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and +0.8 apg and a 2nd round pick in 2009...all of this for Rasho?
We need a quality center, and if Colangelo picks Bargnani, then Bonner can be traded away. We dont need Eric Williams.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see how Toronto sees this as a good deal. The Spurs gained +6.3 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and +0.8 apg and a 2nd round pick in 2009...all of this for Rasho?</div> How not? Matt Bonner, although he hustled and played well with us, lived and died by the long ball. To his credit, he's been a pretty good shooter, but he's no long term solution. Eric Williams was just taking up space and money, dumping him should've been one of the main motives for this deal. Nesterovic, although he's not been getting too many minutes in the past few years with San Antonio, averaged 12 and 7 in his last season in Minnesota, alongside Kevin Garnett. The Raptors are hoping that with a similar player in Chris Bosh, Nesterovic can replicate that success. If we were to go to the free agent market and try to get a starting center, he'd come no cheaper than Rasho. The fact that we're able to dump a contract while still preserving our cap advantages is quite a bonus.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see how Toronto sees this as a good deal. The Spurs gained +6.3 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and +0.8 apg and a 2nd round pick in 2009...all of this for Rasho?</div> Well, first off Toronto badly needs someone to log Center minutes and have a shot blocking presence. So its a good step in filling our hole at center. Second, Rasho had a low statistical season because he was only playing 19 mpg, and the previous 4 seasons he was playing between 25.5-30.4 mpg. Eric Williams wasn't being used, and Bonner was most effective at PF, while we had two guys who are natural PFs (Bosh and Charlie V). Our current salaries amount for the 2006/07 season is at 35.48 mill (including Rasho's contract) Last year's salary cap was about 50 mill $. So the current Raptors situation is: PG: ------- / Jose Calderon / Alvin W.(not likely) SG: ------ / ------ / Ukic (not sure?) SF: Mo Pete/Joey Graham PF:Bosh/ Charlie V/ Humphries C: Rasho/Pape Sow/Whaley #1 Draft Pick + about 15 mill$ in cap space What should we do with it?
THIS TRADE SUCKS! 2009 SECOND ROUND PICK ASWELL? Rosho is too expensive and Matt and EW were both done next year with their contracts! This really makes me think that we are going to be trading down and selecting a PG in the draft.
Wow.. Rasho is overpaid for the playing time and #s he produces.. But maybe playing in the East could change that. We won't know what he's capable of until he actually plays some quality minutes for the Raps. But i still don't like his contract however, they could of used it to get somebody better though..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">THIS TRADE SUCKS! 2009 SECOND ROUND PICK ASWELL? Rosho is too expensive and Matt and EW were both done next year with their contracts! This really makes me think that we are going to be trading down and selecting a PG in the draft.</div> Well Platsanity, how else were we going to fix our center problem and dump Eric Williams at the same time? There are no true centers in the draft, Bargnani, Tyrus Thomas, and Aldridge are more like PFs than Centers. So any center we would sign would probably cost more and want a contract for longer than 3 years. Nene - highest bpg is .87, averaged .53 blocks per game in 03-04 with 32 mpg, 6'11 and is more of a PF/C. Also just came off knee surgery Ben Wallace - Going to be way too expensive and not likely going to T.O Mourning - No way that would happen lol Pryzbilla - Good shot blocker and young Nazr Mohammed - also a possible choice So really we would have to risk trying to get Pryzbilla or Nazr and their prices would probably be high if Atlanta, Chicago, San Antonio, or Portland go after them. What would probably happen would be Toronto would be without a center for another season... Not fun
Good steps to filling our void at center, and it sorta hurst to see Bonner go. Peace out. I'm glad we lost Eric Williams =D
Not really a fan of this trade. I guess if Rasho Nesterovic can play like he did in 02-04 then he is worth the money he is owed but it remains to be seen if he can. Also a guy like E. Williams and Bonner whose contracts are coming of the books at the end of the year become valuable to teams who are looking to resign their free agents much like kelvin kato this year. Anyway I think they could have signed a guy Nazr Mohammed or Joel Przybilla guys who are younger and better defensively for simaler money likely a few more years though.
rasho is bad. in minny he was so inconsistent it wasnt even funny. in SA, he got lost on the bench. he also isnt much of a shot blocker. hopefully he works out for you guys, but 3 years 23 mil is a lot of money
colangelo traded away borderline rotation players for a rotation player with a hefty contract. btw, there are a lot centres in the league that are grossly overpaid.
just shows that most of you are couch fans...how is this a bad trade??? I don't know about anyone else but Bonner drove me crazy last year. He sucked on 'd' would lose the ball if he tried to dribble at all and really wasn't much more than a fan favourite. Williams didn't even play and complained. Couple of months ago most in here would have traded him for two right shoes and now a true legit 7 footer isn't enough?!?!?!?!?! Is there any satisfying you? What happened to Colangelo the genius who can't do any wrong????? I personally think it is a good trade and needed. We get a legit veteran center for a reasonable price. So we eat some of his contract compared to the other guys...isn't that what we have cap space for seeing as no big name free agent will sign here...(yet). All the Centers coming up for FA have no guaruntees that they would be able to have or continue their success. ANother good move by Colangelo
Two satisfying, safe and ultimately smart moves by Colangelo, and the off-season has just begun. Not everyone will ever agree on trades but this move in my opinion, was an excellent trade, and gives more likelihood to the Raptors pulling off that #3 pick trade with the Bobcats.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jones:</div><div class="quote_post">just shows that most of you are couch fans...how is this a bad trade??? I don't know about anyone else but Bonner drove me crazy last year. He sucked on 'd' would lose the ball if he tried to dribble at all and really wasn't much more than a fan favourite. Williams didn't even play and complained. Couple of months ago most in here would have traded him for two right shoes and now a true legit 7 footer isn't enough?!?!?!?!?! Is there any satisfying you? What happened to Colangelo the genius who can't do any wrong????? I personally think it is a good trade and needed. We get a legit veteran center for a reasonable price. So we eat some of his contract compared to the other guys...isn't that what we have cap space for seeing as no big name free agent will sign here...(yet). All the Centers coming up for FA have no guaruntees that they would be able to have or continue their success. ANother good move by Colangelo</div> amen. couldnt have said it better. bonner drove me BANANAS last year! his jump shot is what we re-signed him for, and it was SO inconsistant last year. and when he isnt hitting his jump shots (which was often) what was he doing on the floor? turning the ball over with the ugliest drives iv ever seen, being a defensive siv, and having mediocre rebounding nights. remember...bonner recorded his first career double double last year...with the amount of minutes he logged at the 4, he should have at least been rebounding the ball better then he did you guys cant expect to just GET players...to get players, you have to give up players...we gave up eric williams, who frankly i would have given away for a handfull of magic beans...he's out of town now, and our only "sacrifice" is bonner...and we get a legit 7ft center in exchange. how is his contract bad? combine williams and bonner's contracts, and it works out to almost the same as rasho's so our cap situation isnt really effected at all. dont forget, the spurs also threw in "cash consdierations" which means, they're prolly paying a portion of his salary this deal isnt bad at all...i can live with no bonner and taking a chance on rasho. all we need from him is to rebound and block a shot here and there...i dont think thats too tall an order for a 7fter in the east. if i have one complaint about this deal, it means that we arent going after either magloire or sammy D....and i would have been really happy with either...but who knows what bc has planned now
Im on the borderline with the trade because of Rasho's contract. 3 years at the money he is gettin is a little too long, considering that Matt and Eric had contracts that ran for only 2 more years..leaving us with Rasho's 8 million on contract for an extra. I'm sure BC has something in plan for that 3rd year..well I hope. Looking at the team right now and our situation, we get a legit 7 footer who can play, hopefully like he did in Minesotta, and will be contributing more than Eric and Bonner on both ends.
