Which Superstar Would You LEAST Want to Play With?

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  1. TheFreshPrince

    TheFreshPrince JBB JustBBall Member

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    ^^scottie pippen is pretty self centered. he always wanted to be the man, but jordan wouldnt let him. im suprised that they succeeded so much. Russell is awesome though.
     
  2. Apollo

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    AI, just because he`s the kind of player you really have to learn to work with to be succesful.
     
  3. Karma

    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    A.I cause everytime I saw him in his prime, he would never ever pass the ball for consecutive posessions, even with options like Mckie and Snow around him.

    Stephon Marbury cause he has to be single handedly the most overconfident player I've ever seen in my lifetime, which is funny for someone who hasn't achieved anything in his NBA career. Furthermore, I just don't like his game.

    Kobe Bryant from the 2004-2005 season cause I wouldn't have ever touched the ball that season [​IMG]
     
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    i wouldnt wanna play with vince carter..because all he does is shoot.
     
  5. ShortyC20

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    I'd play with Chris Kaman because were very similar players.

    Oh and we both don't like people grabbin our nuts.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  6. TheFreshPrince

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">A.I cause everytime I saw him in his prime, he would never ever pass the ball for consecutive posessions, even with options like Mckie and Snow around him.</div>

    is this a joke. mckie and snow were never scorers or good shooters.
     
  7. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">is this a joke. mckie and snow were never scorers or good shooters.</div>
    During their time in Philadelphia both where more than capable of putting points on the board. Mckie was a great shooter, Snow never was. Whenever AI would be hurt Mckie (or Snow) would always step up there scoring. Both where capable scorers, and Mckie was a great shooter.
     
  8. Shapecity

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    The player I'd least want to play with is Stromile Swift. He's one of the most frustrating players to watch in the NBA. I've never seen anyone with that type of potential play with so little enthusiasm.
     
  9. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    A week ago Steve Smith, Glen Rice, and Tim Hardaway were on some radio program discussing the finals, when the radio host asked them, "who was the player that frustrated you the most as a teammate?"

    Glen Rice answered Kobe Bryant, the reason being "he needs to learn to trust his teammates"

    and Steve Smith chose Rasheed Wallace, because "he has all the talent to be one the best PF's, but he just doesn't bring it all the time."

    My choice would have to be Artest....Dude is talented as hell, but the stuff he does off the court can really be a distraction to his teammates.
     
  10. phunDamentalz

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    Lamar Odom - i wouldn't know which Lamar was going to show up. or whether to look for him or not. i'd also spend a lot of energy trying to get him to play with intensity.

    AI - if i take a shot, unless i made it, every time i'd get one of those frowns-and-head-shakes, like "man, you should have given it to me! i was an MVP"

    Antoine Walker - i don't really need to spell out why exactly. but watching him waste important possessions on bad-looking 3 balls would not be fun.
     
  11. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    ^^^all 3 are good choices...oh and I can speak from experience of watching him....

    Steve Francis - plays hard, but just isn't smart with decision making on the court.
     
  12. Karma

    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    i wouldnt wanna play with vince carter..because all he does is shoot.
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    I find that strange cause he is often TOO passive. Furthermore, he is one of the most underrated SG's in the league.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Antoine Walker - i don't really need to spell out why exactly. but watching him waste important possessions on bad-looking 3 balls would not be fun.
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    Forgot to mention him. If he was on my team and did that stupid shimmy I could tackle him right then and there [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    During their time in Philadelphia both where more than capable of putting points on the board. Mckie was a great shooter, Snow never was. Whenever AI would be hurt Mckie (or Snow) would always step up there scoring. Both where capable scorers, and Mckie was a great shooter.
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    I watched most of the Sixers game in thier run to the Finals in 2001. Although A.I was always the primary, it was Mckie who would pick up the offensicve slack in that series. Case in point being Game 4 of the 2001 semi-finals against Toronto. It was A.I, along with Mckie and Snow picking up thier offense who got Philly back into the game, although they ultimately lost.

    I'm not saying they were outstanding scorers, but they were both capable of doing so.

    I remember I was watching a Sixers vs. Knicks game sometime this year. I swear to god, for 5 straight posessions, A.I would ask for the pass after the rebound after the Knicks missed thier shot (obviously [​IMG]) and he would storm down the court...dribble...and either shoot one of his patent jumpshots from mid range or drive and throw up a somewhat wild shot (he surprisingly didn't get a foul call on those posessions)..BUT 5 POSESSIONS!! And he scored...twice if I remember correctly. I was baffled because in my head I was thinking, this is the same thing Kobe gets blasted for, only he doesnt even isn't this bad at it.

    Yes, I realize A.I had a high average in assists this year and yes I'm aware I could have just caught one of those quarters (it was the 2nd) where he wanted to be on the attack but Jesus Christ, when you have Andre Iggy screamin for the ball wide open, you pass it to him.
     
  13. TheFreshPrince

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    ^^hey, he scored 2/5, and as you said, a couple of those misses should have been fouls, so that is pretty efficient imo. you think iggy is going to make 2/5 deep jumpers?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">


    I watched most of the Sixers game in thier run to the Finals in 2001. Although A.I was always the primary, it was Mckie who would pick up the offensicve slack in that series. Case in point being Game 4 of the 2001 semi-finals against Toronto. It was A.I, along with Mckie and Snow picking up thier offense who got Philly back into the game, although they ultimately lost.

    I'm not saying they were outstanding scorers, but they were both capable of doing so.

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    Why did you quote me? I sad they where capable scorers.
     
  15. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Allen Iverson. Honestly, if I'm a young player coming into the NBA and I know my development will be stumped</div>

    Exactly. If your a young player, I'll admit playing with AI wouldn't be the smartest thing but if BK actually took the time and put seasoned guys around him like AI had in 2001 guys that KNOWS their role and don't rely on AI making them better rather they look at AI to make things EASIER for them the Sixers would be in muhc better shape. This league is all about winning. I can gurantee you if AI was taking 75 shots a game and the Sixers were always in position to win a title EVERYBODY would want to play with AI. Now I'm about to say something so don't get the wrong idea. Jordan was also very dominant with the ball, at one point he averaged 37 PPG and 32 PPG and 8 ASP(basically AI numbers this season) but you won't find a person that wouldn't want to play with MJ? Why because MJ was always winning. Why? Well he had Pippen, Grant, Kerr, Kukoc, Paxson, Longely etc etc so this man was always winning. If AI always had the great players around him and was consistently winning despite his style of play I can almosy gurantee half the people who said they don't want to play with AI wouldn't mind playing with him at all.
     
  16. Eclipse

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    I couldn't imagine the pressure of playing with MJ. Either he could make you better or completely destroy your confidence.
     
  17. ROCK4LIFE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting amador08:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldnt wanan play with Iverson, because I dont wanna be a spectator</div>
    Why is it when I stated this at the beginning of the season they scolded me? Maybe it's wrong to be so right sometimes[​IMG]
     
  18. AIRTIGHT

    AIRTIGHT JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well he had Pippen, Grant, Kerr, Kukoc, Paxson, Longely
    …If AI always had the great players around him </div>

    Pippen, sometimes Grant--- and then who?
    If Iverson and <font color=""Red"">Jordan'</font>s career situations had been switched you'd be talking about " well he had Webber, AI2, Dalembert, Mutombo, Mckie, and Korver. Or an old Toronto fan would be complaining well <font color=""Red"">Jordan </font>had " Mcgrady, ADavis, .... "haha I aint gone pretend I remember who was playing on the Raptors back then. So basically you guys are comparing VC and AI to <font color=""red"">Jordan</font>, and attributing some of <font color=""red"">Jordan’s</font> success to his according to you ‘ being blessed with better teammates’. You seriously think <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font> would still get dominated these Finals if he was playing with Kidd Jefferson Krystic and whoever else?

    >>That he wouldnt make the playoffs or have a decent team having played with: an old yet obviously still productive Chris Webber(as opposed to Grant). One of the most athletic and potential budding talents in AI2(rather Kukoc ), a taller more versatile better potential player and possibly better shooter than Paxon or Kerr were in Korver? An young athletic juggernaut set on playing monster defense and appeasing his teammates in Dalembert( as apposed to Longely) A player already regarded as a defensive marvel an strong finisher in Ratliff( rather than Carthwright or Wenningiton)? A player whos cemented himself as one of the greatest defenders in history as a 5 time DPOY with Mutombo(rather Bison Dele or Will Purdue)? A solid ball controlling veteran guard who can always counted on to provide solid defense at the PG in Snow or Mckie for that matter(rather than Armstrong, Kerr) You serious?


    You seriously think Iverson or Carter would be playing much better and possibly winning championships playing with Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, Longley, Armstrong, Kerr, Kukoc, Randy Brown, Bwilliams, ---- Pippen was fantastic; he may or may not have turned out who he was without<font color=""red""> Jordan</font>. Assuming he did, he’s obviously no more talented than Mcgrady, possibly no more than Iguodala early in their careers. Rodman was an all time great rebounder--- yet I’m sure adding him to Iverson’s squad with noone else would just make for another good performer that you guys would be unhappy with.
     
  19. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is it when I stated this at the beginning of the season they scolded me? Maybe it's wrong to be so right sometimes</div>

    No it's not that. It's because the Sixers were 0-0 and who knew they would be heading into the lottery. I'm telling you, its all about winning.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A player already regarded as a defensive marvel an strong finisher in Ratliff( rather than Carthwright or Wenningiton)? A player whos cemented himself as one of the greatest defenders in history as a 5 time DPOY with Mutombo(rather Bison Dele or Will Purdue)? A solid ball controlling veteran guard who can always counted on to provide solid defense at the PG in Snow or Mckie for that matter(rather than Armstrong, Kerr) You serious? </div>

    First of all where did you get VC and T-Mac from? These two I'm questionable about, VC is not the same player you woudl put pressure on and rely on him to lead a team, and T-Mac as great as he is he just never seems to deliever at the end. But anyways it's funny how the guys you mentioned are the guys that help AI get to the Finals, but my point is that Iverson went against a POWERHOUSE due in the Lakers while he carried it ALLL on offense, but that's not hte point at all. No way I'm comparing AI to MJ because that's just crazy, what I'm basically saying is that in terms of dominating the ball, MJ did his share too and people know it but the fact that he was WINNING nobody cared. That's all I'm saying. I'm not looking at overall success, I'm just generalizing things and that making the point that if your winning no matter your style of player people will want to play with you.
     
  20. ROCK4LIFE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">No it's not that. It's because the Sixers were 0-0 and who knew they would be heading into the lottery. I'm telling you, its all about winning</div>
    It is, and I've been sayin the Sixers are going to be terrible for last 2 seasons. Face it, one man jackin up 30 shots a game while the other teammates stand and watch doesn't win ball games.
     

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