im not a big basketball expert im still learning a bit so help me out alittle. wut r ur thoughts about him would u trade him to get a top pick in this years draft or no since this is a weak draft. i would really like Iguodala to be on my team so wut do u think?
This was the first time somebody brought up Iguodala in trade discussion but he's the only player that we should keep on this team. He's the only player that doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective in the game. It's hard to pass up a top five pick for him though even if he is my favorite player. I'd love to get my hands on a guy like Brandon Roy but I'm not sure how King feels about trading AI2.
i was kind of thinking of something like this. Chicago trades #2 and #16 possibly Michael Sweetney(has an expiring contract i think) and Eddie Basden. Philly trades Andre Iguodala and #13
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting taurus515th:</div><div class="quote_post">i was kind of thinking of something like this. Chicago trades #2 and #16 possibly Michael Sweetney(has an expiring contract i think) and Eddie Basden. Philly trades Andre Iguodala and #13</div> Why would we do that? When I saw we I mean Chicago?
AI2 would just add another SF for the Bulls and they don't really need that. We already have Luol and Noc. And then at 13 there would mostly be just SF/SG's there to draft at that spot. (Carney/Brewer)
I don't even know if I would trade the 2nd overall pick for Iguodala straight up let alone throw in the 16th (which we can’t trade) and players. Like SP23 said Iguodala would just further add to our log jam at small forward, and would give us another young player who’s game is still developing at a position we have already invested a past lottery pick to fill. Iguodala is a good player, but he does not try to be a scorer, and his jump shot is not consistent enough from mid range. I think he will develop into a good player, but as of this point the Bulls have no need for him.
I feel LaMarcus Aldridge will be gone before our pick by Toronto or Chris Bosh is most likely out. i know they we chose to keep bosh. Since our frontcourt is our weakest y continue to keep getting younger when we obviously need to get a veteran or aleast someone whose been in the league longer than 3 years to play at the center position. if we keep that pick who can we get Tyrus is now a SF, Adam Morrison is a SF, Ruy Gay is a SF, Bargnani did not even workout with the bulls. the only people is Patrick O'byrant and Shelden Williams. i feel there is a chance we can get Shelden Williams at the #13 now instead of the #16 or either get Saer Sene. To me, I THINK Paxson is going to trade that pick and since we need a tall defensive SG y not get Andre Iguodala if he is available instead of getting Brandon Roy. Andre Iguodala fits our needs he can play more than one position, he can play the point, shooting guard, and small forward he is who we need a tall defensive minded shooting guard that can also play the point.
To your frontcourt statement. LaMarcus could develope into a good player, why get a veteran just for a couple of seasons and then the player leaves? Aldridge would be with the Bulls if he keeps developing, we already have young players on our squad. The backcourt is young, and we could add young players to the frontcourt, they'd be close to the same ages. Imagine when all of them are in their prime, which would all be close to the same time. And then veterans for the bench, or start some games. Unless we get a capable starting center like Wallace or someone and Aldridge could develope.
iggy is a great defender, and a capable scorer. last year his numbers were less than great though (i almost didnt win my fantasy because of him) lol.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">LaMarcus could develope into a good player</div> yea LaMarcus Aldridge will be a good player but its not likely the raptors we not pick him since bosh will most likely leave toronto if he doesnt and i know they would rather have bosh for the next years to come instead of someone in this years draft.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting taurus515th:</div><div class="quote_post">yea LaMarcus Aldridge will be a good player but its not likely the raptors we not pick him since bosh will most likely leave toronto if he doesnt and i know they would rather have bosh for the next years to come instead of someone in this years draft.</div> Why would he leave, he just got a 6 year contract extension. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> According to a report in the Denver Post, Bosh will sign the extension on July 12, the day he is eligible to sign a six-year extension. "I can't wait to sign it," Bosh told the Post. "I know where I'll be. If I didn't, I would have to answer all those free-agent questions. "I love Toronto," Bosh told the paper. "The people are nice. The city is nice. If we win, we can sell out every night. It's a work in progress. You hear that Toronto people have backed away. But people will respect the players and the franchise."</div> http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55452
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting taurus515th:</div><div class="quote_post">I feel LaMarcus Aldridge will be gone before our pick by Toronto or Chris Bosh is most likely out. i know they we chose to keep bosh.</div> Bargnani, Thomas, Roy still on the board... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Since our frontcourt is our weakest y continue to keep getting younger when we obviously need to get a veteran or aleast someone whose been in the league longer than 3 years to play at the center position. </div> This trade is not bringing us a veteran just another young player anyway... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">if we keep that pick who can we get Tyrus is now a SF, Adam Morrison is a SF, Ruy Gay is a SF, Bargnani did not even workout with the bulls. the only people is Patrick O'byrant and Shelden Williams. i feel there is a chance we can get Shelden Williams at the #13 now instead of the #16 or either get Saer Sene.</div> The Bulls are still planning on bringing in Bargnani for a work out if he gets here before the draft. So far no team has worked him out anyway... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">To me, I THINK Paxson is going to trade that pick and since we need a tall defensive SG y not get Andre Iguodala if he is available instead of getting Brandon Roy.</div> Why not keep the 2nd and 16th pick, and draft Bargnani and a shooting guard at the 16th spot, or draft Roy then Sene. That is if Aldridge is gone. Anyway you look at it we are better keeping the picks then trading them. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Andre Iguodala fits our needs he can play more than one position, he can play the point, shooting guard, and small forward he is who we need a tall defensive minded shooting guard that can also play the point.</div> So does Roy...if Aldridge is gone. The reason Bosh wants Aldridge is because they are close friends they have worked out together, and I believe played high school ball together. Bosh will not leave the Raptors if they don't draft him he just agreed to an extension.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">let alone throw in the 16th (which we can?t trade) and players. </div> actually i looked it up and we can trade our 16th pick hopefully this site i got it from is accurate this is wut it said: This rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2005-06 season, then teams can trade their 2006 first round pick without regard to whether they had a 2005 pick, since their 2005 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2006 and 2007 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years. In addition, teams are required to have only a first round pick, and not necessarily their first round pick. So teams may trade away their own future picks in consecutive years if they have another team's first round pick in one of those years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting taurus515th:</div><div class="quote_post">actually i looked it up and we can trade our 16th pick hopefully this site i got it from is accurate this is wut it said: This rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2005-06 season, then teams can trade their 2006 first round pick without regard to whether they had a 2005 pick, since their 2005 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2006 and 2007 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years. In addition, teams are required to have only a first round pick, and not necessarily their first round pick. So teams may trade away their own future picks in consecutive years if they have another team's first round pick in one of those years.</div> Point remains this trade doesn't make sense for the Bulls. We are giving up way to much for another young player, and adding to a log jam. Right now we can get away with a lineup of Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Nocioni, and Aldridge/Chandler. However, if we do this trade it leaves us with five guys, who where lottery picks competing for the one through four spots. Someone is going to be left out, and complain, which will lead to a trade demand, which would be bad...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would he leave, he just got a 6 year contract extension. </div> he didnt sign it yet anyone can change their mind b4 they sign a contract. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Bargnani, Thomas, Roy still on the board...</div> didnt u say Andre Iguodala would be a log jam at the small forward well Thomas said his position when he gets to the NBA will be small forward. Bargnani did not even come to a workout so i doubt Paxson would get him. Picture it like this u ask me to join our team that could get $1,000,000 if u win but never seen me in person and i have a lot of hype u would not pick me. Andre Iguodala is another Roy and thats wut im saying u never know how Roy might play when he gets to the NBA its not a guarentee that he will be as good as he was n college im not saying thats the case and i hope thats not going to happen i want him to have a good career but trading for Andre Igoudala would give us 3 picks up. Andre Igoudala and #13 is better than Brandon Roy and #16. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">This trade is not bringing us a veteran just another young player anyway</div> i didnt say Andre would be a veteran our backcourt is fine, im talking about getting a veteran for our frountcourt through free agency instead of getting another rookie from the draft which most of the big man their are better than the ones in the draft. also has everyone forgotten we can swipe picks with New York next year and hopefully they will be in the top 5 worst team and our chances of getting Greg Oden is 1 out 4. i didnt say 5 because wut our the odds we get the same pick 2 years in a row. If we dont get Oden well look at how many bigs are in that draft.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting taurus515th:</div><div class="quote_post">he didnt sign it yet anyone can change their mind b4 they sign a contract.</div> I highly doubt it though this has already been reported in major media outlets. Only reason he has not signed it yet is because he is not able to do it until July 1st I believe. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">didnt u say Andre Iguodala would be a log jam at the small forward well Thomas said his position when he gets to the NBA will be small forward.</div>He said his true position is small forward, but unlike Iguodala he can play power forward, and said he would be willing to if that is what the team that drafted him required of him. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bargnani did not even come to a workout so i doubt Paxson would get him. Picture it like this u ask me to join our team that could get $1,000,000 if u win but never seen me in person and i have a lot of hype u would not pick me.</div> Bargnani has not worked out for any NBA team yet. He cannot come to the US yet. That doesn't mean he has been ruled out as a lottery pick. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Andre Iguodala is another Roy and thats wut im saying u never know how Roy might play when he gets to the NBA its not a guarentee that he will be as good as he was n college im not saying thats the case and i hope thats not going to happen i want him to have a good career but trading for Andre Igoudala would give us 3 picks up. Andre Igoudala and #13 is better than Brandon Roy and #16.</div>It won?t happen though. The 76ers do not want to trade Iguodala (although if this trade came up they would consider it), and Paxson will probably not even think of this deal. Iguodala like I said before would add to our log jam at small forward. Although, he can play some shooting guard he does not really have the handles as of this point to spend much time in the back court. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">also has everyone forgotten we can swipe picks with New York next year and hopefully they will be in the top 5 worst team and our chances of getting Greg Oden is 1 out 4. i didnt say 5 because wut our the odds we get the same pick 2 years in a row. If we dont get Oden well look at how many bigs are in that draft.</div> That does not really relate to this deal though. We can draft Aldridge this year. Oden the next, and trade Chandler.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Someone is going to be left out, and complain, which will lead to a trade demand, which would be bad...</div> No one is going to be left out Kirk Hinrich 34/Andre Iguodala 14 Ben Gordon 35/Andre Igoudala 13 Luol Deng 31/Andres Nocioni 17 Tyson Chandler 14/Andres Nocini 14/Shelden Williams or wutever 13th pick 20 Nene 28/Tyson Chandler 10/vet and some other veterans not sure if Darius Songaila will opt out or not.
I don't think Iggy would want to come of the bench. And Noc might just keep getting better and better and other people might get less playing time. Same with any other young player on our team. How would they find playing time then?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting taurus515th:</div><div class="quote_post">No one is going to be left out Kirk Hinrich 34/Andre Iguodala 14 Ben Gordon 35/Andre Igoudala 13 Luol Deng 31/Andres Nocioni 17 Tyson Chandler 14/Andres Nocini 14/Shelden Williams or wutever 13th pick 20 Nene 28/Tyson Chandler 10/vet and some other veterans not sure if Darius Songaila will opt out or not.</div> Andres Nocioni is left out, after averaging 21 and 9 during the series against Miami why would you want him on the bench? Also Iguodala would not want to come off the bench.
now yall just making up excuses lol. Andres Nocioni does not care he said to the media he excepts hes role as a role player which i know he will be better than just a role player. To me Andres Nocioni is just happy to be in America and i dont c him complaining one bit that can cost him to go back to Argentina. im sure Andre Iguodala wouldnt care about coming off the bench. if he hasnt complained about not getting the ball much in Philly since he has Allen Iverson and Chris Webber on his team, hes not going to complain about coming off the bench if he does get the ball more in Chicago.
