Hawks & Rockets involved in draft day trade..........

Hawks & Rockets involved in draft day trade..........

Supposedly, Atlanta would draft Roy and trade him to us for Sheldon Williams & Luther Head. I don't watch college, somebody school me this kat Roy. If it comes up true, in which they said it's almost done on hoopshype, I'd hate to part with Head.

 

I've done some extensive research on this when I heard about this. Here is what the deal is.

Both teams have to draft their respective trade player(Houston has to draft Shelden and Atlanta has to draft Brandon roy) This stipulation could destroy this trade because Roy could go 2,3, or 4. If Morrison goes at 3, then the trade is killed because Portland has allready said Roy is their second player they want after Morrison.

Brandon Roy has bad knees and that is something that hurts his stock to me. He is the most complete and NBA ready player in this draft and will have an instant impact, but parting with Luther Head could hurt our depth.

Scenerio 1: If atlnta drafts Brandon Roy and Rudy gay or Bargnani fall to the Rockets and if Shelden is still available, then Rockets have the ability to draft Rudy Gay or Bargnani thus killing the trade.

scenerio 2: Roy has a good chance of falling to the Rockets and so does Rudy Gay.

I don't like this trade because we are trading away Luther who I love.

 

yea if roy is available on the 5th pick, then we will trade head and shelden willaims(8th pick). its right here http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=13744 ALSO WADE WAS 5th pick in the 2003 draft they won a championship SO that means if roy is 5th pick we can win a championship, now theres two things to winning the championship, Mcgrady on the nba live 07 cover and the 5th pick woot

 

^^^hmmm

Man I don't want to lose Luther Head. He Was great for us before he hit that Rookie wall.

Watch if we do trade him, 2-3 years from now we will highly regret it!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">^^^hmmm

Man I don't want to lose Luther Head. He Was great for us before he hit that Rookie wall.

Watch if we do trade him, 2-3 years from now we will highly regret it!</div>
My biggest fear......we've done this in the past, and Horry and Cassell have turned out pretty nice.

 

Brandon Roy has more potential than Luther Head imo. Luther Head is too small to play the SG spot, and he doesn't really have the skills to play PG either. I rather have a 6'6" SG who can score on his own, and possibly be a good defender.

Last year the Rockets had no 3rd option on offense. Everyone had to rely on Yao and T-Mac to give them easy shots. Roy has the opportunity to be the 3rd option on offense we've been looking for. I too like Luther Head and I wish we could give up someone else, but the Rockets could really use someone like Roy.

 

I bet we don't even have to lose Head in order to get Brandon Roy. I have seen a couple draft scenarios where Roy/Gay have fallen to us.
Hey, if Bargnani can go #1, and Sheldon can go 5...Gay can go str8.

http://www.nba.com/games/20060419/MEMMIN/boxscore.html

<font color="red">profanity edited</font> Minny had to tank that game, we could have the 7th pick. Hell we could have the 6th pick if Howard was not retarded and didn't hit that buzzer beater against Denver.

We should definately trade Howard, he is a plague to this team. Now we have to lose Luther Head. All because JVG didn't want to only play Yao 20 min a night. Now we have a Yao who might have lost a step

 

This has to be a smokescreen on who we are actually going to take Brandon Roy could got to Chicago but long shot. Thing is though Michael Jordan himself says he has immense interest in taking Brandon Roy with second pick. Coach Nate Mcmillian also stated he would like to take Roy with his pick. Now with the number five pick we could be trying to get Thomas/Aldridge or Bargnani also.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tinyballer:</div><div class="quote_post">This has to be a smokescreen on who we are actually going to take Brandon Roy could got to Chicago but long shot.
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How? The Bulls need a big 2/3 that can defend, among other things. Roy is that perfect fit. And he can score and should be an impact player from day one.

The Bulls then can go for someone with size, like Saer Sene at 16.

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Thing is though Michael Jordan himself says he has immense interest in taking Brandon Roy with second pick.
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How is Jordan going to take Roy with the 2nd pick?

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Coach Nate Mcmillian also stated he would like to take Roy with his pick. Now with the number five pick we could be trying to get Thomas/Aldridge or Bargnani also.</div>
Bargnani is most likely going to Toronto.

 

The thing that everyone doesnt realize is that EVERYONE assumed that Atlanta will pick Brandon ROy for us. It could be anyone.

At this point Luther Head > Brandon Roy

Brandon could be a bust and not succeed at the next level. Luther has proven that he can add depth to our roster and even start some games. Give him some time. We KNOW he can average 10 ppg. Do we know if Roy will be a great player or a bust? We don't. We are taking a huge risk here.

 

That is what i saying. It could be tyrus andrea brandon lamarcus i saying brandon roy ain't going to be there at the #5

 

SAY NO TO BRANDON ROY, TYRUS THOMAS, AND JJ REDICK.

Any of the other prospets are ok.

 

Brandon Roy could be one of those guys that becomes a guy like reece gaines and amount to nothing. read the scouting reports it says the exact same thing. but they also said the same thing about battier well rounded does nothing great but a little of everything. I don't know if he can become a third option but i think he can become like a Battier but i don't know if thats what you want out of a top 5 pick.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">SAY NO TO BRANDON ROY, TYRUS THOMAS, AND JJ REDICK.

Any of the other prospets are ok.</div>


I agree that we should stay away from Thomas (because all he is , is athletic ---> look how Portland turned out..) and Redick (because he is too one dimensional), but Roy may be the guy we need.

Now about Head... Luther IS an under sized SG and doesnt have an enough posilished game to play PG; However, in Roy senerio, standing at 6'6 and appearantly one of the best all around players in this year's draft, he can fill, or be a subsitute at the holes that we will have. Basically what i am saying is that Roy is better guy to place at various positions than luther. He is more versitile. I dont agree or disagree with this trade thought but i think there is too much hope in Head right now.

 

This would be awesome for us Hawks fans. We like Shelden, or at leaast Billy Knight and friends do. Also, we get Head who will be our point guard for years to come.

 

Brandon Roy, far and away, is the best fit for the Rockets. He does everything well. The only possible concern would be his the surgery he had done on his knees.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 50:</div><div class="quote_post">This would be awesome for us Hawks fans. We like Shelden, or at leaast Billy Knight and friends do. Also, we get Head who will be our point guard for years to come.</div>
Luther Head is Salim Stoudamire with a less consistent jumpshot.

As for Roy, I haven't watched him enough to form an opinion but if we could get Shelden Williams, why not keep him? He's my pick. Also, if Atlanta really wants Williams that bad, they'd draft him with the four.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ownage:</div><div class="quote_post">
Now about Head... Luther IS an under sized SG and doesnt have an enough posilished game to play PG; However, in Roy senerio, standing at 6'6 and appearantly one of the best all around players in this year's draft, he can fill, or be a subsitute at the holes that we will have. Basically what i am saying is that Roy is better guy to place at various positions than luther. He is more versitile. I dont agree or disagree with this trade thought but i think there is too much hope in Head right now.</div>



I understand what your saying, but if you want versatility than draft Ronnie Brewer. He plays 1-3 extremely well. Brandon Roy isn't half the point gaurd Brewer is and Roy is only slightly better in the shooting department because he doesn't have an amazing shot from the perimeter either. Rockets have been doing research into 3 players in the past 3 days(Rudy Gay, Brandon Roy, and Tyrus Thomas). Rudy Gay seems to be the guy they are looking at right now because Brandon Roy has a 30% chance to fall to #5. Rudy Gay can fall to #8 with recent workouts.

My mock draft through pick 8 with the research I have done.

Toronto- Andrea Bargnani

Chicago- Lamarcus Alddridge

Charlotte- Brandon Roy (MJ loves him. Third pick is between Morrison and Roy)

Portland- Adam Morrison (draft the stache movement in portland will get some support if they draft him) If morrison is gone by pick 3, Brandon Roy will drop here.

Atlanta- Shelden Williams Or Tyrus Thomas. Roy is gone and any means of trade is gone unless they pick Rudy Gay to trade, but I seem them be safe and pick the landlord just incase Rockets dont take Shelden at #8.

Minnesota- Randy Foye, this guy has had more workouts in minnesota than any other player. They need him to shoot that outside shot when double teams come to KG. Mchale likes him as well.

Celtics- Marcus Williams...I would be surprised taht Ainge drafts for need instead of BPA but he has to b/c BPA is Rudy Gay and they are so stacked at SF. They are in desperate need of a PG and Williams is the best.

Houston- Rudy Gay...They wanted a guy to be a third scorer and they got him. The recent homework they are doing on him paid off.

 

I think Bargnani won't go to toronto but i would be happy if he did since i live in Canada but I think its an evident smokescreen. When there are other players on the board that other teams value more wouldn't u say your going to draft that guy while other teams are also interested you trade it for Bargnani. They didn't do this they tried to play up Bargnani's stock so someone would want him so someone would fall to them originally when they had the #5 then when they had the #1 they tried to this so someone would trade up for him. I think truthfully they are interested in the same player bosh is intersted in Lamarcus Aldridge. PF/Center who can eventually bang with the big boy and give you 12rebounds and 3blocks every game a defensive presense who may oneday score 20points per game. Thats how he projects. Him and Bosh could be the next great PF/C combo after David Robinson and Tim Duncan if they both pan out good and they already have Villanuaeva who is virtually the same player as Bargnani

 

Your giving Aldridge to much credit. Bosh does resemble Tim Duncan, but Aldridge will be no where near Robinson.