<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Several general managers told David Moore on Monday that they are convinced both the Warriors and Celtics are actively pursuing Allen Iverson. Iverson has been mentioned in trade scenarios sending him to Atlanta and Boston over the past few weeks. </div> Source
but seriously what would we have to give up and take back in return? I've heard they want to package Cwebb as well, I know it would be tough to swallow if that muthaf*cker came back, but if it netted us AI I'm down. AI/Cwebb/#13 for Baron/Murphy/Fisher/#9 (they'd probably want Monta, Ike or Andris, but I'd let them keep the 13th if it meant bye-bye to Fish)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">but seriously what would we have to give up and take back in return? I've heard they want to package Cwebb as well, I know it would be tough to swallow if that muthaf*cker came back, but if it netted us AI I'm down. AI/Cwebb/#13 for Baron/Murphy/Fisher/#9 (they'd probably want Monta, Ike or Andris, but I'd let them keep the 13th if it meant bye-bye to Fish)</div> Great trade but C-Webb will retire soon.
Please no AI! We don't need another guard taking 30 shots a game and not getting the rest of the players involved. Plus he's getting up there in years and he's probably going to be more injury prone as his body wears down.
Well, Iverson will solve our interior defense/offense, shot blocking, and rebounding problems, right? right? Ah, who am I kidding. Maybe, Mullin wants to make Davis, Iverson, Fisher, Richardson, Dunleavy line up...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Please no AI! We don't need another guard taking 30 shots a game and not getting the rest of the players involved. Plus he's getting up there in years and he's probably going to be more injury prone as his body wears down.</div> My thinking is, he has the same amount of years on his contract as Baron, who, even though he doesn't take the beating AI does is much more prone to miss substantial time. AI averaged 7.9 and 7.4 assists the last two years. He would give us a winning mentality and change the losing culture. He plays much better defense than Baron, plus he'll take and make the last shot, and even though Baron and Jrich each hit some game winners last year, I'd feel much more confident if Iverson was creating the last shot.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Iverson will solve our interior defense/offense, shot blocking, and rebounding problems, right? right? Ah, who am I kidding. Maybe, Mullin wants to make Davis, Iverson, Fisher, Richardson, Dunleavy line up...</div> LOL, if that ever happens we just became the New York Knicks! Man, I sure hope Mullin hasn't fallen off the wagon... This better be a smokescreen or some random rumor or a half-truth because we're involved in a 3-way deal that lands us somebody that can address our problems inside.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">My thinking is, he has the same amount of years on his contract as Baron, who, even though he doesn't take the beating AI does is much more prone to miss substantial time. AI averaged 7.9 and 7.4 assists the last two years. He would give us a winning mentality and change the losing culture. He plays much better defense than Baron, plus he'll take and make the last shot, and even though Baron and Jrich each hit some game winners last year, I'd feel much more confident if Iverson was creating the last shot.</div> Still... the guy is a shooting guard not a point guard. All right... just don't get upset if the other guys aren't getting touches and he's taking 30 shots a game at 39-40% shooting. He plays with heart, but the guy is selfish sometimes. The guy wouldn't even come off the bench after an injury because he felt doing such a thing was below him. At least Baron came off the bench when he was asked to.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post"> Man, I sure hope Mullin hasn't fallen off the wagon... This better be a smokescreen or some random rumor or a half-truth because we're involved in a 3-way deal that lands us somebody that can address our problems inside.</div> We need to shake it up and see what's out there, I don't necessarily want AI, but he's intriguing. If Baron can play a full season and not miss 20 games because of a sprained ankle, shoot anywhere close to AI's 42% and 80% from the FT line, and show some heart then I'd be very happy. What three teamer are you talking about?
If we get Iverson for Baron, then Philadelphia owes us a few future picks or they have to assume somebody like Foyle or Fisher's contract.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">We need to shake it up and see what's out there, I don't necessarily want AI, but he's intriguing. If Baron can play a full season and not miss 20 games because of a sprained ankle, shoot anywhere close to AI's 42% and 80% from the FT line, and show some heart then I'd be very happy. What three teamer are you talking about?</div> There was a three teamer on hoopshype which mentioned a trade between Sixers/Utah/Boston (not us). It involved players like Wallyworld, Boozer, and AI, I think. Check celticsblog.net Not sure if its going to work because its complicated. Plus, it's probably just a rumor... I don't think we're involved in a 3 team trade, but we might. We never know...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">LOL, if that ever happens we just became the New York Knicks! Man, I sure hope Mullin hasn't fallen off the wagon... This better be a smokescreen or some random rumor or a half-truth because we're involved in a 3-way deal that lands us somebody that can address our problems inside.</div> Well, GMs discuss about awful a lot of trade scenarios casually than many fans think, and even many of those silly Nypost trade rumors were actually 'true'. As a matter of fact, Layden made so many phone calls with his silly trade ideas, other GMs didn't even answer his phone calls later. So, I take this rumor as one of those light discussions. But, I seriously doubt that Mullin 'pursued' Iverson, because he doesn't address critical weakness of this club at all...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post"> But, I seriously doubt that Mullin 'pursued' Iverson, because he doesn't address critical weakness of this club at all...</div> except heart
Well, if heart can be converted to W, I won't mind. But, Philly was .500 club in Leastern, I mean Eastern conference for quite some time. Besides, while he is still an excellent player, he really failed to play with any scorers around him like Hughes, Stackhouse, Robinson, Webber and so on. And, when Iverson was surrounded with defensive-minded role players, they made to Final. Warriors have bunch of scorers with no defensive minded role players. So, I think it really is a match made from the hell...
Don't forget the Sixers were in one of the weakest divisions in the Eastern conference. I mean the Atlantic division has gotten some better, but its mainly just guards, guards, guards... Teams with size go far or Miami would have never gotten as far as they did with only with Dwade. Dallas didn't have a star center, but they still had impact in the paint because of their depth at big positions. We need to get bigger, not softer and further away from the basket. We definitely don't need ballhogs trying to score half of the team's points all on his own. That was our big problem this year. I don't think Mullin could do it, because I don't believe he's lost it and became Isiah Thomas just yet.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">My thinking is, he has the same amount of years on his contract as Baron, who, even though he doesn't take the beating AI does is much more prone to miss substantial time. AI averaged 7.9 and 7.4 assists the last two years. He would give us a winning mentality and change the losing culture. He plays much better defense than Baron, plus he'll take and make the last shot, and even though Baron and Jrich each hit some game winners last year, I'd feel much more confident if Iverson was creating the last shot.</div> Wow - I have to agree with your reasoning here. I forgot about AI's defense -- it's good. real good.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, if heart can be converted to W, I won't mind. But, Philly was .500 club in Leastern, I mean Eastern conference for quite some time. Besides, while he is still an excellent player, he really failed to play with any scorers around him like Hughes, Stackhouse, Robinson, Webber and so on. And, when Iverson was surrounded with defensive-minded role players, they made to Final. Warriors have bunch of scorers with no defensive minded role players. So, I think it really is a match made from the hell...</div> Wow -- I have to agree here with Kwan's reasoning too.
