ESPN is retarded...No matter what we do, they'll do nothing but hate... But then when someone scores 48 points as a rookie, they say the exact opposite of what they were saying. You know who im talking about...
I cannot believe people are doubting Colangelo and thinking of putting up "Fire Colangelo" threads at this point and time when he's made nothing but good trades. And you guys are bithcing about him selecting someone you didn't want with the 35th pick? You honestly think that 35th pick is even gonna get playing time? Are you guys okay? Seriously, calm the hell down. I'm pretty sure once the season gets rolling all of you will be all over him again.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Bargnani does add perimeter shooting, and Tucker brings decent perimeter defense.</div> We don't even need shooting, so I don't know why he put that as a need. We're the team that hit a three every game, and has guys like Mike James and MoPete shooting 40%+ from downtown while taking a good amount of three's. Maybe in the absence of Mike James, yea, but that wasn't a "need".
og question: what if peterson is injured or have a bad night or just become plain inconsistent yet again with his outside stroke who is going to shoot 3? calderon? come on therefore perimeter shooting is paper thin since there is no bonner also that's why it's a NEED you toronto fans need to wake up
I agree, we do have a shortage of 3 point shooters now, but it is not a NEED. We've forever been a team way too relient on the 3 point shot, and I hope we change that forever. We don't need everyone on the roster to be able to shoot 3s or else we'll get comfortable with that and keep jacking them up like we always do... it's time for a change.
i understand what you saying but if you look at your bench now it's pretty much close to empty therefore you need to fill your bench with enforcers/tough guys like earl watson, 3pt threat (i think you can get allen ray? pittsnoggle? mcnamara as unsigned draftee?), atheletic pace changer like marquis daniels (he is definitely available because dallas just took ager in the draft making daniels expendable), rebounder like reggie evans the ballgrabber to round out your bench or just simply veterans and role players a good team in the long run is to be 10 deep (look at dallas) toronto right now is like 2 deep 2.5 deep at most therefore it's a need in fact toronto needs a lot of things other than scoring
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hohoyoyoyo:</div><div class="quote_post">og question: what if peterson is injured or have a bad night or just become plain inconsistent yet again with his outside stroke who is going to shoot 3? calderon? come on therefore perimeter shooting is paper thin since there is no bonner also that's why it's a NEED you toronto fans need to wake up</div> Charlie took 214 three's last season in 29.1 minutes of play a game. He only hit 32.7%, but he should improve, and he takes them, so we should be fine in that area.
I personally think Bargnani will be a bust, he wasnt that productive in Italy (averaging somthing like 11ppg, 6rpg his last season), and now hes hit the big time, I cant invision him playing better than he did over there. He was basically drafted on potential, I just dont think he will deliver, but if Colangelo thinks hes the right man for the job, then so be it. Personally I would've taken LaMarcus Aldridge, then they could've played him at C then moved Bosh and Villaneuva back to their natural positions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">I personally think Bargnani will be a bust, he wasnt that productive in Italy (averaging somthing like 11ppg, 6rpg his last season), and now hes hit the big time, I cant invision him playing better than he did over there. He was basically drafted on potential, I just dont think he will deliver, but if Colangelo thinks hes the right man for the job, then so be it. Personally I would've taken LaMarcus Aldridge, then they could've played him at C then moved Bosh and Villaneuva back to their natural positions.</div> Pau Gasol averaged 12 PPG and 5 RPG in his last season for FC Barcelona. Not mind-blowing numbers, but Memphis was confident he would be able to develop into an all-star type player with what he was showing at the age of 20, and now look where he's at. That's the route Colangelo is taking. He's seen Bargnani at 18 and see's that he has made strides in his game.
^^exactly...and for the record, it was 13 and 6. and we arent talking about division 3 bball here...this is PROFESSIONAL ball playing against grown men. his game has really improved in 2 yrs...give him another 2 yrs of nba seasoning and coaching...he could be come a solid pro. nobody is saying he WILL be the next dirk nowitzki...thats not a fair expectation to set...but colangelo sees something, and something tells me he's a better judge of budding talent then anyone on this board
Only the Americans actually look and compare stats things of that sort. When i say Americans i refer to North America. Euro's and most of them don't look at statistics to determine how good a player is. So stats are not everything.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Charlie took 214 three's last season in 29.1 minutes of play a game. He only hit 32.7%, but he should improve, and he takes them, so we should be fine in that area.</div> thats crazy talk...an improving but very average (at 3's) CV31 and a MoPete is enough 3 point shooters for you? No one else on the team has that range, Bosh is probably our next best 3 shooter.... we added something that every teams needs...versatility and flexability
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">thats crazy talk...an improving but very average (at 3's) CV31 and a MoPete is enough 3 point shooters for you? No one else on the team has that range, Bosh is probably our next best 3 shooter.... we added something that every teams needs...versatility and flexability</div> We're not done signing players. Ford has improved his shooting, and last season shot decently, though with not enough attempts. Of course we also lost Bonner, but Graham could also improve his shot, and his PT should increase. Really we don't know right now, but that's an area that if you really want to improve in, you can find a shooter. Even a guy like Casey Jacobsen is always there, but then again, how many minutes does that guy actually get on the team. A guy like that playing 55 games at 10 MPG really doesn't change your teams three point shooting ability. You're not likely to get a second round shooter who will actually get PT on your team, so why waste the pick just because we want someone who can shoot.
Yup, there's many guys you can get who can just shoot. Darius Washington is a guy we should've gotten on our summer league team because he has some skills that can be refined to get him to be a good player (backup). Even a guy like Eddie House is a cheap option too at PG/SG.
