What do you think of our new Warrior -- Patrick O'Bryant?

In Mullin We Trust. I hope POB can fill up the paint!!!

 

Eh, don't hold your breath on it. He's a pick on potential about the same Biedrins. There will be some lingering doubts about his motor much like Taft, I bet... What's with those espn guys talking more about his love of cooking food rather than anything basketball? I'm scared! That's why I wanted for us to trade the pick! Hopefully that is what Mullin is doing.

If we keep the pick, I think it was a good pick if guys felt Brewer's shot wouldn't be as effective on the next level or we could have easily found a Brewer like guard through free agency. I mean what if we somehow land Marquis Daniels, trade for Peja, or trade for somebody more balanced than can shoot and play defense. I feel more comfortable about our ability to trade for swing players than our ability to trade for good big players.

 

I think that drafting O'Bryant is admitting that the previous draft picks were not that good. Diogu, Biedrins, Taft are all big men. W's are still stuck with Foyle and Murphy. Who is going to sit? Problem is that O'Bryant probably is not better right away, so what is the plan: taking another big man with a low lottery pick next year?

At the other hand, they need help there, but I hope Murphy will be dealt now

 

This is the first year since '00 that I've been wrong on the Warriors draft pick.

When I heard the Warriors worked out O'Bryant yesterday, I thought there was no chance tha they would take him, and the workout was just so they could say they covered all their bases.

I really don't like the pick because I when I look at him, I don't see a potential allstar, I see a probable Michael Olowokandi. Why do it? The Warriors already have Biedrins, Taft, and *sigh* Foyle at center. Do they really think it's a good thing to be trying to develop THREE young centers at the same time? Especially when Foyle is stuck on the roster because no one will take on his contract?

I just don't like this.

 

Adding more young talent to this roster is good. You can't teach 7'0 but it is definately a risk.
The W's have some good young talent with can eventually be traded or develop with some depth. Playing POB at the 5 and Beans at the 4 could be interesting. If you really want to go big put Ike at the 3.

The pick is a little scary because of the questions about his motor.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Eh, don't hold your breath on it. He's a pick on potential about the same Biedrins. There will be some lingering doubts about his motor much like Taft, I bet... What's with those espn guys talking more about his love of cooking food rather than anything basketball? I'm scared! That's why I wanted for us to trade the pick! Hopefully that is what Mullin is doing.

If we keep the pick, I think it was a good pick if guys felt Brewer's shot wouldn't be as effective on the next level or we could have easily found a Brewer like guard through free agency. I mean what if we somehow land Marquis Daniels, trade for Peja, or trade for somebody more balanced than can shoot and play defense. I feel more comfortable about our ability to trade for swing players than our ability to trade for good big players.</div>

You gotta give AB more of a chance since he's only 20. Let's see how he'll be two years from now.

Same with POB. With POBs size and ability to muscle up, we finally have somebody in the paint. I wasn't sure if he was another Erick Dampier with his attitude, but have to trust Mullin on that one.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">This is the first year since '00 that I've been wrong on the Warriors draft pick.

When I heard the Warriors worked out O'Bryant yesterday, I thought there was no chance tha they would take him, and the workout was just so they could say they covered all their bases.

I really don't like the pick because I when I look at him, I don't see a potential allstar, I see a probable Michael Olowokandi. Why do it? The Warriors already have Biedrins, Taft, and *sigh* Foyle at center. Do they really think it's a good thing to be trying to develop THREE young centers at the same time? Especially when Foyle is stuck on the roster because no one will take on his contract?

I just don't like this.</div>

We missed out on a potential all-star by a coin flip.

 

It kinda feels like I am buying a used Camny. It looks like a box and I do not know if I am buying a quality used car or a lemon. But, I absolutely need a car to live, so I went with a safe choice.

Well, at least he should bring something that nobody in Warriors can bring; size, strength and 7'5" wingspan. So for that, I am content with the pick. And, I think he and Biedrins can coexist for a while, since they both seem different players. If one of two players can pan out, that would be great. And, if both players pan out, we will be in a great position to make a trade...

 

POB is a natural 5. Is Beans a natural 5 or 4? I know he was playing 5 but is he a tweener?

 

Good size!

Ike can now play next to a big man or maybe go twin towers with AB.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chuck.be:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that drafting O'Bryant is admitting that the previous draft picks were not that good. Diogu, Biedrins, Taft are all big men. W's are still stuck with Foyle and Murphy. Who is going to sit? Problem is that O'Bryant probably is not better right away, so what is the plan: taking another big man with a low lottery pick next year?

At the other hand, they need help there, but I hope Murphy will be dealt now</div>
You need two big men, one center and one power forward. All we got are power forwards...

I've always felt Biedrins, Taft, Diogu, Murphy were all power forward skill or power forward sized, not true centers or really big enforcers or intimidators. Meanwhile we got a big body that's 6'11-7 feet tall, 250-260 lbs at only age 19 that could definitely play center that could be an enforcer or an intimidator. That's better than Biedrins who is mostly likely not going to fill out that much so he's stuck at PF... If we're talking wingspan O'bryant is pretty long in this department as you'd want your center to be and he's got really great hands and a nice touch at the line for a big man. This would just be drafting insurance if we need to move one of the big men because Biedrins isn't really signalling to us he's ready to start anytime soon. Just because Foyle is bad doesn't mean the next guy will be that much better... especially if he's mired by foul trouble and inability to hold position in the paint at center.

Also, you can never have enough big men in the wings. If a trade were to come up, they'd want one of these guys, not another rookie swing that may end up only being as good as Kirk Snyder. Heck, I'd trade for Andrew Bynum if I could, but he's probably got more value to a lot of teams in terms of prospects.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Another benefit of having POB is that he's a valuable trading chip. Young big men can get you an disgruntled established star (i.e. Artest). Unfortunately it sounds like Mullin is still content with Dunleavy at SF.</div>

If POB can play some, then he'll have value. I mean look at Robert Swift after he had a couple of good games. I don't care if POB can score that much. Just as long as he can fill the paint, rebound and play some D. Mullin delivered on his big man.

That said, I think Murphy or Fisher is the trading chips. Get rid of one or both and re-sign Pietrus.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">This is the first year since '00 that I've been wrong on the Warriors draft pick.

When I heard the Warriors worked out O'Bryant yesterday, I thought there was no chance tha they would take him, and the workout was just so they could say they covered all their bases.

I really don't like the pick because I when I look at him, I don't see a potential allstar, I see a probable Michael Olowokandi. Why do it? The Warriors already have Biedrins, Taft, and *sigh* Foyle at center. Do they really think it's a good thing to be trying to develop THREE young centers at the same time? Especially when Foyle is stuck on the roster because no one will take on his contract?

I just don't like this.</div>

That's definitely the part I agree about. Trying to develop THREE young centers all at once. I don't think it's going to help this franchise.

But what it will do is create lots of trade potential. I mean having tons of big man depth is a good thing. If a team wants one of Biedrins, Taft, or POB for a real good impact player, hell trade one of those guys. By the time they are ready, we'll probably lose the other guys to make a good team. Big dudes take that long and its hit or miss.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">It kinda feels like I am buying a used Camny. It looks like a box and I do not know if I am buying a quality used car or a lemon. But, I absolutely need a car to live, so I went with a safe choice.

Well, at least he should bring something that nobody in Warriors can bring; size, strength and 7'5" wingspan. So for that, I am content with the pick. And, I think he and Biedrins can coexist for a while, since they both seem different players. If one of two players can pan out, that would be great. And, if both players pan out, we will be in a great position to make a trade...</div>

POB looks like a nice shiny Caddy in those pics of his. At least, he's not wearing that red jacket anymore.

Of course, you can always get a lemon as you say, but it's pretty safe. In Mullin We Trust. What else can I say?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Another benefit of having POB is that he's a valuable trading chip. Young big men can get you an disgruntled established star (i.e. Artest). Unfortunately it sounds like Mullin is still content with Dunleavy at SF.</div>

Exactly. I agree with Run on this but I sure as hope we don't look in hindsight over a Jermaine O'neil for some dudes type of deal. But I agree with wtwalker that it will be hard to get anything good trying to develop 3 young guys all at once. The stink of it is, we'll probably have to go through two different contracts before we finally get them at their peaks at age 26-29.

 

Well, I do think Biedrins is also a center, because I don't think he has a skill to be 4 like Foyle. But, Biedrins is very fast for center, and unlike Foyle, Biedrins has a size to be a legit center in the league. I really don't think this pick shows a disappointment toward Biedrins. Mmm... Finally, Biedrins is not the youngest player in Warriors, since OBryant is couple months younger...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bayareafan85:</div><div class="quote_post">POB is a natural 5. Is Beans a natural 5 or 4? I know he was playing 5 but is he a tweener?</div>
I think beans is a Jeff Foster or J.O.: plays like a center, but power forward size and frame. Beans just might be one of those kids that never fill out. Just naturally lean, not too strong against centers, but amazingly athletic and quick going left to right. I noticed this when he matches up with 6'9 centers versus the 7 feet 260 lb guys.

POB is the same right now as Biedrins in terms of strength level, but I think he's got more potential to grow as natural center. Can't say I'm confident about him because I didn't like any of these draftees... but it was a good pick for the situation the Warriors were in.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">It kinda feels like I am buying a used Camny. It looks like a box and I do not know if I am buying a quality used car or a lemon. But, I absolutely need a car to live, so I went with a safe choice.

Well, at least he should bring something that nobody in Warriors can bring; size, strength and 7'5" wingspan. So for that, I am content with the pick. And, I think he and Biedrins can coexist for a while, since they both seem different players. If one of two players can pan out, that would be great. And, if both players pan out, we will be in a great position to make a trade...</div>

With this many guys onboard, we have to make a deal. Not just any deal, a good deal like all-star or franchise guy still in their prime (more or less).