What do you think of our new Warrior -- Patrick O'Bryant?

Cohanhater, run BJM, remember Marvin Williams? It could be Rudy Gay is actually this year's form of Marvin Williams. Because of last year being deep and Atlanta missing out needed guys like Chris Paul who could be ready now and even better down the line, more nba ready players were selected before Rudy Gay, who is basically a Marvin Williams player (lots of hype, didn't show much in college).

It also has me believing that if we picked him or another small forward we'd still have not much to show up front down the line as we wander into the #11 and #14 picks before we fall back down to getting #7-#9. We're in this cycle of poverty here, but without being in range of a good center prospect. Those just aren't easy to find nowadays or through free agency.

The bad news we'll probably be stuck having to overpay again as usual like Foyle/Dampier.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Good comments. The question is can we be patient enough? Because big men take a long time to develop and I can already detect warrior fans across the internet are getting really emotional and impatient again about everything. If all this venting can be directed at a particularly someone it just makes it easier for them than understanding its a combo of things put together that makes the Warriors this bad. Not any one person.</div>

I don't believe that it will take a long time to make a big man with skills to be productive in the NBA in today's game. I believe most big men can be productive quicker in today's NBA game than what could have been the case in the past. Chris Taft was productive right away. Ike Diogu also was very productive last season. Howard is producing at a very high level and he is a year or so out of high school. Frye also was a good NBA player last year in his rookie season. Players such as Biedrins, Swift, and Collison also have been productive with minutes. Today's NBA game doesn't have the Ewing's, David Robinson's, Hakeem's, Kareem's, Russell's, or Wilt's etc. that the NBA game had in the past which would make being a center or big in the league difficult. Furthermore, with the roster that the Warriors have, the only thing that needs to be asked from the post players is rebounding, defense in the paint, good hands, and athleticism. The Warriors have the players to score from their back court along with Ike and Murphy in the paint. The Warriors have some ball handlers in Baron, Monta, Dunleavy, Ike, etc.

I am content with this draft because they added the player that has the size, skills, and attributes to be solid at defense with his size and long arms, along with rebounding, have good hands, athleticism, and at least a growing offensive post game. Also there is less possibility or rationale to constantly play Dunleavy at the PF position, which is a good thing in my opinion.

I don't expect there to be a very long waiting room to see POB produce something on the court.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Clif25:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't believe that it will take a long time to make a big man with skills to be productive in the NBA in today's game. I believe most big men can be productive quicker in today's NBA game than what could have been the case in the past. Chris Taft was productive right away. Ike Diogu also was very productive last season. Howard is producing at a very high level and he is a year or so out of high school. Frye also was a good NBA player last year in his rookie season. Players such as Biedrins, Swift, and Collison also have been productive with minutes. Today's NBA game doesn't have the Ewing's, David Robinson's, Hakeem's, Kareem's, Russell's, or Wilt's etc. that the NBA game had in the past which would make being a center or big in the league difficult. Furthermore, with the roster that the Warriors have, the only thing that needs to be asked from the post players is rebounding, defense in the paint, good hands, and athleticism. The Warriors have the players to score from their back court along with Ike and Murphy in the paint. The Warriors have some ball handlers in Baron, Monta, Dunleavy, Ike, etc.

I am content with this draft because they added the player that has the size, skills, and attributes to be solid at defense with his size and long arms, along with rebounding, have good hands, athleticism, and at least a growing offensive post game. Also there is less possibility or rationale to constantly play Dunleavy at the PF position, which is a good thing in my opinion.

I don't expect there to be a very long waiting room to see POB produce something on the court.</div>
How about production in terms of setting the tone and staying consistent? That is what I was more or less referring to in him not being productive right away. We know Biedrins cannot stop the foul trouble because he's getting manhandled in the post or nobody is helping him on D. So these guys like Biedrins or O'bryant might produce as bench players, but hopefully they can do it as starters capable of setting the tone. That is supposed to be their upside.

 

POB could be like Kaman but I'm not sure if POB is that active of a player. We'll see though. I know Kaman can shoot with either hand near the basket.

O'Bryant is right hand dependent.

I'm reading nbadraft.net and he's got all the qualities you want for a center built for any style or tempo.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Strengths: Classic late bloomer ... Bigman with excellent upside ... Huge frame with extremely long arms (likely close to 7-6 wingspan) ... Very good agility for a 7 footer, light on his feet ... Not afraid of contact, good strength and improving rapidly ... Runs the court and moves very well, also quick getting into transition ... Should be able to carry another 20-30 pounds ... Great shot blocker, doesn't get overzealous. Can block a lot of shots without jumping ... Excellent rebounder ... Has good touch on his shot, solid free throw shooter ... Works hard to establish position under the basket ... Has developed some solid post moves ... Displays good footwork ... Has a very good turnaround jump hook ... Soft hands on rebounds ...</div>
Among the weaknesses of his are:

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Weaknesses: Needs to get bigger, stronger, tougher ... Still growing into his body, gets banged around due to lack of body strength, but he's working hard in the weight room to improve upon it and showing great progress ... Bigmen take the longest to develop ... He's still getting used to his body and learning what he's capable of ... Body balance is weak, will improve in time with added strength ... Not a tremendous leaper, but above average for a 7 footer ... Must get nastier on the court, develop a killer instinct ...</div>

So it sounds like he's just not one of these "in your face" Kenyon Martin players nor is he particularly strong in the legs just yet.

I guess it's the guy's demeanor and the fact he's been a mostly obscure player that fans are really nervous about. I saw clips of this guy and I was not impressed or unimpressed, but it's sure better than Foyle!

 

Custodianrules2
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but it's sure better than Foyle!</div>
AMEN!