C's Get Rondo, Powe

According to Andy Katz, the C's aquire Rajon Rondo for picking up Brian Grant?s salary.

Mike Gorman from FSN is reporting that the Celtics will include the ?07 Cavs first rounder, and also says we would have picked Rondo at #7.

I think this may mean that Telfair is part of the possible AI deal (or West).

 

Congrats on getting Rondo.

His shot isn't the best, but if you need a player that can run a fast-paced offense, then you picked the right guy.

 

If the C's really were going to pick Rondo at 7, then today they traded Dickau and Raef for Ratliff, Telfair, Brian Grant, and a future second rounder. Not bad at all.

 

Are either Rondo or Telfair as good as D West at the point, despite being good at shooting, he's got good court vision, he's not a natural point guard. But if your better at it than someonewho is . . . I dono.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheGreatK-Bob:</div><div class="quote_post">Are either Rondo or Telfair as good as D West at the point, despite being good at shooting, he's got good court vision, he's not a natural point guard. But if your better at it than someonewho is . . . I dono.</div>I think Danny sees West as more of a combo guard to backup both the 1 and the 2. He did fine in his first year as a starting point, but we could definitely do better than him in my eyes.

It's hard to tell right now, anyway. With all the AI trade talk, one of these guys might be gone before the season anyway.

 

I sure hope they trade Telf and not West if they get AI. Im still not sure thats the best thing for the team int he long run but obviously whenever you add an allen iverson its not gonna make your team WORSE

 

We also got Leon Powe for a future second rounder.

I guess shapecity has to like the Celtics now.

 

Rondo coming can only tell me that one of the other point guards is headed to Philly. When you talk about the #7 pick that was potentially going to Philly, maybe Telfair will be headed over. Who knows at this pick, we'll have to wait and see.

 

I think either Telfair or West are going to be packaged in a deal.

If the Celtics are really set on getting Iverson, I'm pretty sure one of the above players are going to be included in the trade.

 

Powe was an excellent pick, he's going to be just like Carlos Boozer I think. Powe also has some handles, so he could possibly be a SF but he's too slow so it's unlikely.....

 

Ainge said on WEEI today that Allan Ray will play for our summer league team. I'm very happy about that.

 

Never seen Rondo or Powe play. Ive heard that Rondo cant shoot to save his life. Im curious to hear what people think makes Powe so good, czuse it certainly seems like he isnt a name you heard mentioned a lot/at all leading up to the draft. I do know he did 20-10 numbers this past year (right?) so obviously he's gotta have somethin to him. Im not sure him or rondo or ray are really part of the celtics plan for the long run. They have so many young players who havent really come close to their potential yet, how many more could they possibly have room and minutes for to get a good look at?

 

Iverson?

If they don't get Iverson, they're going to get somebody.

 

Great to see the Ainge vision crystallizing so clearly. He's lucky to have Isiah in the same division.

Should have gone with Marcus Williams, Danny.

 

Everyone is saying that EVERYONE should have gone with Marcus Williams, but no one did til the 22nd pick. Im beginning to think theres something crappy about him that the rest of us dont know about but the GMs do.

Im curious to see how Telfair plays. from what Shape says though it might be better to see him shipped out of town

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">
I don't understand why they added Telfair, unless they plan to ship him off despite what Ainge says. Telfair is a knucklehead, can't defend anyone in the league, awful decision maker, and also can't shoot.</div>It's amazing that you've come to those conclusions so quickly in his young career. Besides the fact that he was in the worst position possible playing for Portland, he's also a high school player who has only played two seasons. Add to that the fact that he's playing the most difficult postion to learn in the NBA...yet you don't give him any leeway for some reason. I'd like to know what you expect out of a high school drafted, second year point guard playing in the laughingstock of Portland? Especially when you don't have any other high school drafted point guards to compare him to. Even elite players like Garnett, McGrady, and Kobe took a few years to prove themselves. Why do you expect differently from Telfair, playing a more difficult postion?

The fact is that Danny Ainge has had his eyes on Telfair since day one. Rumor has it that that's why Sebastian was drafted where he was...because Ainge was going to draft him with the C's first rounder. He has just as much upside as any other young player out there, and if he had gone to Louisville instead of to the NBA, he would have easily been the top ranked point guard in the draft this year.

Your four knocks on him are pretty weak considering he's so young. Of course he's not going to be a great decision maker. In fact, name me one point guard without college seasoning that came into the league and didn't make a lot of mistakes and bad decisions.

You say he can't shoot, but in the same post, explain how that can be learned, just like Parker learned.

You say he can't defend anybody, which is a little exaggerated. I don't think anybody was killing themselves on D in Portland last year, and even if Telfair did stand out with his bad D, that's also something that can improve if he applys himself. And he'll have no choice but to apply himself in Boston. He will have to earn his playing time just like everybody else, and lazy defense will get him on the bench. Clown on Doc Rivers all you want, but he's great with young talent like Telfair.

And lastly, you say he's a knucklehead. I'm guessing that has to do with gun incident at Logan Airport? If not, then why?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolfunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">Everyone is saying that EVERYONE should have gone with Marcus Williams, but no one did til the 22nd pick. Im beginning to think theres something crappy about him that the rest of us dont know about but the GMs do.
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I think Bill Simmons said it best:

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">B. They desperately want a point guard ... unfortunately, there are no sure things in this draft. The closest is Marcus Williams, who could end up being a lefty version of Mark Jackson with his passing and playmaking skills. Unfortunately, he has a few things working against him: the incredible laptop scandal (Red Flag No. 1); UConn's stunning exit in the NCAAs (Red Flag No. 2); the whole "I have no problem being overweight and out-of-shape for these pre-draft workouts" (Red Flag No. 3); major questions about his outside shot (Red Flag No. 4); his defensive ability (Red Flag No. 5); and his attitude (Red Flag No. 6). In other words, just call him Six Flags. I can't imagine the Celtics taking him after finally assembling a team of good chemistry guys after the Davis/Blount trade.</div>