2006 NBA Draft -- Warriors Rip a Stale Fart

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Clif25:</div><div class="quote_post">Thinking about the draft this morning, I was wondering how much of an impact Montgomery had on the draft. I have the idea that Mike Montgomery was a strong force in the Warriors' decisions this draft. He is the only one who I could think of that would have made Chris Mullin this possessed to get this much height, and not bring in another SF(especially with the second rounder). Mike Montgomery now has the opportunity to finally accomplish what he seemed to be so good at in the college rankings, in developing talented, raw, 7 footers. I am sure Mike Montgomery is happy to have this opportunity, so he could win back maybe some more fans' hopes and confidence and esteem.

This Mullin-Montgomery team is pretty good at making stale-farts; going back to the Dunleavy, Foyle, and Fisher contracts. The ownership of this team, must be the monarchy of stale-farts though.</div>

It was a fairly shaky crop for SF. I liked the idea of a PF>SF conversion,a tough guy,inside game,boards,who'd give way to Pietrus when smaller-faster was in our interest. Craig Smith went a couple picks ahead of us. Eric Hicks was not drafted. We could have had Leon Powe-great idea if his knees are sound.

We'd need to unload one of our baggage contracts,I guess,to have roster space,which is the point of a rd 2 we can leave in Europe until we have a spot.

Read between the lines...Mully is not too sure he can create that spot

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Clif25:</div><div class="quote_post">Thinking about the draft this morning, I was wondering how much of an impact Montgomery had on the draft. I have the idea that Mike Montgomery was a strong force in the Warriors' decisions this draft. He is the only one who I could think of that would have made Chris Mullin this possessed to get this much height, and not bring in another SF(especially with the second rounder). Mike Montgomery now has the opportunity to finally accomplish what he seemed to be so good at in the college rankings, in developing talented, raw, 7 footers. I am sure Mike Montgomery is happy to have this opportunity, so he could win back maybe some more fans' hopes and confidence and esteem.

This Mullin-Montgomery team is pretty good at making stale-farts; going back to the Dunleavy, Foyle, and Fisher contracts. The ownership of this team, must be the monarchy of stale-farts though.</div>

I don't know where these assumptions come from... What would Monty have to do with the choice to go center? Everybody was saying we needed a center. So Mullin got a center.

All the nba analysts, the sports media, fans that weren't beating the Dunleavy dead horse, were saying that the Warriors needed a center. Can I repeat that again? The Warriors needed a center.

Tall swingmen are a dime a dozen in this league if Mullin just got off his ass and found one instead of sticking to Dun-Pietrus disaster. Athletic, 7 foot centers with good hands, on the other hand, are harder to come by.

And c'mon let's not treat Biedrins like he's a classic center already. If you don't have a star center yet, you get another and add more depth and you make a nice trade chip if you don't overpay. One of the key factors to this franchise not being able to capitalize on their assets is they keep overpaying. Nobody wants overpaid guys.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know where these assumptions come from... What would Monty have to do with the choice to go center? Everybody was saying we needed a center. So Mullin got a center.

All the nba analysts, the sports media, fans that weren't beating the Dunleavy dead horse, were saying that the Warriors needed a center. Can I repeat that again? The Warriors needed a center.

Tall swingmen are a dime a dozen in this league if Mullin just got off his ass and found one instead of sticking to Dun-Pietrus disaster. Athletic, 7 foot centers with good hands, on the other hand, are harder to come by.

And c'mon let's not treat Biedrins like he's a classic center already. If you don't have a star center yet, you get another and add more depth and you make a nice trade chip if you don't overpay. One of the key factors to this franchise not being able to capitalize on their assets is they keep overpaying. Nobody wants overpaid guys.</div>

Yes, you are right. Points taken, also from REFREM.

Still it's the second round pick that is strange to me. Well, actually it's only strange to me after reading this http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1389 about the Warriors selections for the draft. Since there seems to be some talk about other talented second round players that were available that could turn out to be something pretty good, this selection kind of bugged me. It says that Kosta lacks most of the skills to become a NBA center.

Anyway, it will be nice to see the Warriors pull off a deal including this surplus of big men to bring in a better SF/perimeter defender, and also get rid of some of these bad contracts, in particular those of Adonal Foyle and Mike Dunleavy.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Clif25:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, you are right. Points taken, also from REFREM.

Still it's the second round pick that is strange to me. Well, actually it's only strange to me after reading this http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1389 about the Warriors selections for the draft. Since there seems to be some talk about other talented second round players that were available that could turn out to be something pretty good, this selection kind of bugged me. It says that Kosta lacks most of the skills to become a NBA center.

Anyway, it will be nice to see the Warriors pull off a deal including this surplus of big men to bring in a better SF/perimeter defender, and also get rid of some of these bad contracts, in particular those of Adonal Foyle and Mike Dunleavy.</div>
Sorry, I didn't mean to come off sounding like Stephen A. Smith, I just came from reading some other forums and I was absolutely disgusted by all these guys before the draft whining about "nobody being really good in this draft" and "how we needed more size like Jamaal Magloire". And then these same people were complaining after the draft that we picked a center (one of the best prospects in the draft). Unbelievable.

There's always a Brewer/Granger/Prince/Smith in every draft, so I don't understand why some fans are crying about this pick, especially if Magloire wasn't getting dealt to us. Heck for all we know, we could be trading for Rashard Lewis or any small forward better than Dunleavy + Pietrus combined. Mullin just has to stop with the nepotism and find a replacement for his "son" and get a real small forward that's ready to go.

Also, I'm not so worried about the 2nd round pick because of our roster size and nobody being extremely important in the 2nd round. We basically stash our 7'1 stiff overseas (he was actually late first round on many a mock draft ago) and we make a play for a free agent or absorb an extra player in a trade, rather than spend anything. Cheaney is the only FA so we have a pretty big roster as it is. I think Wil Bynum has one more year left since he did something like a two year deal.

Anyway, I liked Brewer, but wasn't in love with him. If we're getting a small forward we're getting one who doesn't have a pterodactyl wing sticking out of his right arm.

 

A BIG deal is we now have 3 horses in the center of the future Derby and it's that much more likely we get a winner. Biedrens has some A+ stuff,but his range is limited to 10 ft...unguarded. Taft's rookie "year" lasted about as long as a quart of milk in the fridge. Check the expiration date. Patrick did show nice rate-of-progree. He was a starter 2 years rather than a mystery Euro who'd had a nice "profile" but hardly got in games. That his best game was in the tournament vs a 7 ft prospect and a good Big East team is a nice clue.

Perovic? The point was that he's in cold storage,not on the roster-cap until useful. We can send him to the Ostertag thug acadamy to work on scowls and cheap shots. Have him study Aikido,pump iron,become a Big Nasty,an enforcer.

 

...or just trade Perovic's draft rights.

I think the one thing that bothered all of us about POB was that first question an interviewer asked him after he was just drafted. Right out of the gates, the question was asked, "So you want to be a chef?" What the--??? And there grew that wonderful nickname of "Cheesecake" when he was also asked about what kinds of food he can cook.

I swear the ESPN guys are a class act. They spend most of their time making negative comments, irrelevant questions, and making snide gestures as the draft night is going live and all them rookies, their friends, families can all hear this being broadcasted. He should have just stayed home like Ike Diogu while we drafted him.

Remember Josh Smith and that one espn dude saying "I think he's going to be the biggest bust of this draft?" Man, it's entertaining and all, but dood this is a kid and his family is all there having to hear this. The draft might as well be a reality show.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Have him study Aikido,pump iron,become a Big Nasty,an enforcer.</div>

Heh -- just a side note, the practice of Aikido has often been called the "Art of Peace" and, rather than fostering the mindset of a big, nasty enforcer, Aikido instead emphasizes harmonious conflict resolution through non-resistance.

 

P.S. I didn't realize O'Bryant weighs 260 lbs. -- okay I suddenly like the pick

 

Man...

 

Plus, this time AO, you don't have to make jokes about our center doing the 360 dunk from the free throw line, like you did with Foyle. Booyah, holmes!

We'll see where this young pick goes. I'd hate to think that Cheesecake is better known for his cooking like Adonal Foyle is known for his "democracy matters" type stuff. Adonal Adonal Adonal... you prove that democracy does matter and it should matter in nba basketball because every fan in the arena would vote you out as starter, in favor of the 12th man! Heck, I'd even put Dunleavy there.

Adonal proves that there is no way for a donut squad to reach the playoffs, when the closest thing to center we have is Murphy and Biedrins. Now Biedrins + POB + healthy Taft I have faith in, because that's quite some depth now.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Man... </div>
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I'm not ready to say having POB and Taft is "healthy depth."

I'm just saying as far as a draft pick goes, and given the mediocre crop of talent this year, in light of the fact that POB weighs much more than I initally thought, I suddenly don't mind the pick at all. My inital intel report had him listed much much lighter than 260.

So he's alot bigger than I thought when I started this thread. That's what I like at center. size.

But in no way do I think the Warriors are a playoff team. I'm not convinced they've upgraded at center, either. he's a draft pick. he could be porductive next year, but who knows? Adonal will still start, at least at the beginning of the season.

I still would have drafted JJ Redick, Marcus Williams, or Ronnie Brewer, just to add some depth to the guard spot in case Baron or JRich gets hurt, and to make it easier to package Fisher with Pietrus.

If the Warriors want to sniff playoffs, they're going to have to hit the free agent market. Picking up a big-man draft pick is okay, but the kid ain't Yao Ming.

And he still looks like Popeye Jones.